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Look out for ‘permanent scarring’ in the labor market: ADP chief economist
So we're seeing a consistent pattern of growth across industries. And those industries with the most room to run, which meant that they were the hardest hit by the pandemic are surging more in this report. And that's namely leisure and hospitality.

BRIAN SOZZI: Nela, a lot of jobs created in the month. Where's the wage increases? I didn't see it in this report.

NELA RICHARDSON: Well, you know, I'm not actually worried. That's the one no I'm not worried about, because it is those low wage jobs that were hardest hit. So at ADP, we saw that people who made under the minimum wage were impacted.

40% saw job loss. So we want those people back to work. And that's going to depress the overall wage gains, because lower wage jobs are coming back to the fold. Those leisure and hospitality jobs, the lion's share are going to be at the lower end of the income spectrum. That's OK, because those are the hardest hit industries.

So we're going to see that number go down. Same with the participation of-- or excuse me, the unemployment rate. We may see that go up. That's not going to be a bad indicator if it meant more people are coming into the jobs market, because they are lured by better opportunities and comforted by a safer work environment.

BRIAN CHEUNG: Hey, Nela. Brian Cheung here. An important point there on how the unemployment rate doesn't tell the whole story.

I was looking at permanent job losers and long-term unemployed, which kind of remain unchanged despite that headline gain on non-farm payrolls. So was there anything about this report that told you about the flows in and out of the labor market? Because that seems to imply it's mostly short-term layoffs that are coming back this time. But what are you seeing about who's coming back to work at this time?

NELA RICHARDSON: Yeah. That's what we're seeing. It's those temporary workers. And if we could remember, we're about a year since the pandemic hit since we first saw that big change and what had been a 50-year low in the unemployment rate.

If you go back with me to March of last year, the promise was always that these jobs were temporary layoff, that 80% of these jobs were temporary. But the longer the pandemic has been in place, the more likely that some of those temporary losses became permanent losses. And that's where things get scary in terms of the future of the jobs recovery and the future of these workers, because that's when we're starting to talk about permanent scarring in the labor market.

Because the longer you stay out, the harder it is to return, particularly for impacted groups like women, like minorities who are seeing higher rates of unemployment the longer these groups stay out of the labor market the more scarring that occurs in their opportunities to come back. So we're always going to be very-- and I will say here that's what the Fed is also going to be looking at, not just the overall unemployment rate. But as they've indicated and signaled even in this past expansion, they're looking at the disaffected groups by the jobs market.
https://finance.yahoo.com/video/look-pe ... 19986.html

They won't use the AI or technology or Robots word now but that is what is going on. Business are adjusting at lightning speed and by the time they acknowledge the force of AI, it will be too late for those that buried their heads in the sand.
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it’s nice to know trends like this in advance, to plan and not worry.

That way when the day comes, you don’t care and ride to the sunset.

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We are not very far from the cyberpunk dystopie !!!
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SOL wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 3:09 pm Look out for ‘permanent scarring’ in the labor market: ADP chief economist

https://finance.yahoo.com/video/look-pe ... 19986.html

They won't use the AI or technology or Robots word now but that is what is going on. Business are adjusting at lightning speed and by the time they acknowledge the force of AI, it will be too late for those that buried their heads in the sand.
Although business applications are way up.

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Budge wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:18 pm
Although business applications are way up.

https://ibb.co/dgJnnQv
And that is the plan. Businesses will thrive the human element will suffer. Businesses always thrive, at least those that understand that humans of tomorrow will want two things, good service and great price
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SOL wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:29 pm
Budge wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:18 pm
Although business applications are way up.

https://ibb.co/dgJnnQv
And that is the plan. Businesses will thrive the human element will suffer. Businesses always thrive, at least those that understand that humans of tomorrow will want two things, good service and great price
And that is what is so comical about the democrats attempt to regulate business, increase tax rates, etc. Those of us who run businesses are so fast at adjusting they just don't even get how they are shooting the little guy in the foot.
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SOL wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:29 pm
Budge wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:18 pm
Although business applications are way up.

https://ibb.co/dgJnnQv
And that is the plan. Businesses will thrive the human element will suffer. Businesses always thrive, at least those that understand that humans of tomorrow will want two things, good service and great price
Draw a triangle on a piece of paper and label each point of the triangle: Fast, Cheap, Good. As a customer you can pick any two. Do you want the product fast and good quality? Well then it won't be cheap. Do you want it Cheap and Fast? Well it won't be good (although it might be consistent. think McDonalds). Do you want it good and cheap? Well then chances are it won't be fast. (think about a low price from a great contractor).

Try to think about designing a car. Do you want the fastest car? Well guess what? You won't get good gas mileage. Do you want great quality? Well then it won't be cheap. It really is a universal trade off. The sooner you understand that the better off you will be. Socialists always think they can have it cheap, good, and fast. NOPE. Sorry AOC the world doesn't work that way.

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Having said all that if you can go into business and deliver as close to all 3 as possible you will win. The other thing is if you don't have repeat customers you will lose.
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A new report from UBS’s retail analysts suggests that 80,000 stores will close in the U.S. over the next few years.

“We estimate that 80,000 stores will close by 2026 in our base case,” the report found. The worst-case scenario is 150,000 stores closing.

The “enduring legacy” of the pandemic’s effect on retail, as UBS puts it, is the push to online shopping, as fears over the coronavirus as well as stay-at-home orders to prevent transmission have kept many people at home.

In 2020, 17 major retailers filed for bankruptcy – including Lord & Taylor, Century 21 and Brooks Brothers – while others are at risk of default.

The end of the pandemic will not be the end of retail’s troubles
But there is reason for some optimism for retailers, according to Barrie Scardina, head of retail in the Americas at commercial real estate company Cushman & Wakefield. Low rents, landlord and tenant cooperation, economic improvement, consumer confidence, stimulus, and other factors may boost things as we start exiting the pandemic nightmare.

But despite the prospect of getting the pandemic fully under control, UBS expects the shift online to continue. While the pandemic has been hard on stores, the analysts note that many did not close because of the broad business shutdowns to slow Covid-19 transmission. Online retail’s market share of the full retail landscape climbed from 14% in 2019 to 18% in 2020 – an uptick that hasn’t been fully felt by stores.

Other ways to measure this growth show a similar acceleration: Average household spending online has doubled in the past five years and spiked from $5,800 to $7,100 from 2019 to 2020.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/the-us-t ... 22600.html


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Triplethought wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:39 am
Try to think about designing a car. Do you want the fastest car? Well guess what? You won't get good gas mileage. Do you want great quality? Well then it won't be cheap. It really is a universal trade off. The sooner you understand that the better off you will be. Socialists always think they can have it cheap, good, and fast. NOPE. Sorry AOC the world doesn't work that way.

Having said all that if you can go into business and deliver as close to all 3 as possible you will win. The other thing is if you don't have repeat customers you will lose.
Based on this story NYC is making the same dangerous mistake that California made and it's probably worse as they are doing after COVID. A lot of people left NYC due to their handling of the Covid crisis. Sadly what people like AOC don't seem to understand is that there is no free meal. Another term for what they are trying to is socialism and we can see how well nations that followed that path have fared so far. There are some level headed democrats and some level headed Republicans, but unfortunately, their numbers are small

'Millionaires tax' threat has some NY bankers, managers eyeing exits
"I'm already looking for an apartment in Florida," said one highly paid person at a top-tier bank who asked not to be identified because his employer does not yet know of his plans to move.

Others earning more than $1 million are considering still bolder steps such as moving not only themselves but also their entire investment firms out of the city, arguing higher taxes cut into their ability to pay staff.

A proposal making its way through New York's state legislature would have top New York City earners paying up to 15.73% in combined state and city taxes.

New York state's income tax rates currently range from 4% to 8.82% and New York City's tax ranges from 3.08% to 3.88%, leaving the top earnings paying closer to 12.7%.

Dubbed the "millionaires tax," the proposal would add surcharges to people earning more than $1 million a year and beat out California localities to claim the country's highest combined tax rate.

Some among those who make $1 million or more, putting them in the higher tax bracket, are saying the city's cultural offerings, which were long a salve, no longer outweigh the benefits of lower tax locations like Florida, Utah or Texas, especially given the success of remote working during the pandemic.

This strategy just like the global tax initiative are both bad ideas, because they individuals/corporations they are targetting are both nimble and have the means to locate on the fly, so by try to use force, all they do is make a bad situation even worse
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SOL wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:04 pm
'Millionaires tax' threat has some NY bankers, managers eyeing exits
"I'm already looking for an apartment in Florida," said one highly paid person at a top-tier bank who asked not to be identified because his employer does not yet know of his plans to move.

Others earning more than $1 million are considering still bolder steps such as moving not only themselves but also their entire investment firms out of the city, arguing higher taxes cut into their ability to pay staff.

A proposal making its way through New York's state legislature would have top New York City earners paying up to 15.73% in combined state and city taxes.

New York state's income tax rates currently range from 4% to 8.82% and New York City's tax ranges from 3.08% to 3.88%, leaving the top earnings paying closer to 12.7%.

Dubbed the "millionaires tax," the proposal would add surcharges to people earning more than $1 million a year and beat out California localities to claim the country's highest combined tax rate.

Some among those who make $1 million or more, putting them in the higher tax bracket, are saying the city's cultural offerings, which were long a salve, no longer outweigh the benefits of lower tax locations like Florida, Utah or Texas, especially given the success of remote working during the pandemic.

This strategy just like the global tax initiative are both bad ideas, because they individuals/corporations they are targetting are both nimble and have the means to locate on the fly, so by try to use force, all they do is make a bad situation even worse
The truly exasperating thing is these morons make the same mistake time and again. Can they really be this obtuse? Well, yes, I suppose they can. Was it New York or New Jersey that proposed a transaction tax on each stock bought and sold? They backed off that one rather quickly when the exchanges told them their exchanges/computers would work just as fine in FL or TX as NY/NJ.
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Budge wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:32 pm The truly exasperating thing is these morons make the same mistake time and again. Can they really be this obtuse?
I find it hard to believe myself, but apparently most people are so stupid that they can't even comprehend how dumb they really are... viewtopic.php?p=1829#p1829
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That is why intelligence is relative. A person might be book smart but dumb as a doorknob when it comes to things that really matter. After observing hundreds of individuals the conclusion I have arrived at is that stupidity is worse than misery. Miserly loves company but stupidity simply demands it and it's in a super trend. So you can have many PHD's that sound smart but when you test on anything of relevance you would be better of talking to your backside or lobotomized Chimp.

So to answer your question? yes, they can be that stupid and the level of stupidity is going to surge in the years to come. Now you can sit and huff and puff, or pour yourself a nice glass of your favourite booze and think of all the ways you can benefit from the stupid things these lemmings are bound to do over the course of the next 5-10 years.

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This is an interesting video and in some way, it explains why it's important to be an observer even though this is not discussed in this video, but you can draw this conclusion by seeing how people react to a given set of outcomes by allowing emotions to creep into the equation

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Without wisdom brilliance is not enough, this one point struck me like a ton of bricks in this follow up video

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On a very separate note (and maybe we will start a thread that deals with Wiseman) Dr Stacks is a pleasure to listen to. There are speakers that are brilliant that you have to force yourself to listen to and then there are people this guy who is just a joy to listen to. He sort of converts every situation into a very interesting story

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Undocumented workers in New York could get up to $15,600 in pandemic relief

New York State likely will offer one-time payments of up to $15,600 to undocumented workers hurt by the pandemic but who couldn’t access federal relief. Nearly 300,000 people may be eligible for the program.

As part of the $212 billion 2022 budget deal reached this week by state lawmakers and the governor, the state plans to allocate $2.1 billion to an Excluded Worker Fund. The budget passed the Democrat-controlled Legislature on Wednesday and now needs to be approved by Gov. Andrew Cuomo.

"The $2.1 billion fund to aid excluded workers in this pandemic is urgently needed, thoroughly deserved, and will benefit not only workers and their families but also the communities where they live,” David Dyssegaard Kallick, deputy director of the New York-based Fiscal Policy Institute wrote in a report analyzing the proposal.

The program makes up less than 1% of the budget deal, which also includes $2.4 billion for a rent relief program and a $1 billion aid package for small businesses, arts, entertainment, and restaurants, among other provisions.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/undocume ... 43128.html


How are they going to qualify these individuals. Undocumented means there are no legal documents indicating the person worked at a given location. This program is going to be open to a lot of fraud.
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