Any thoughts on this plant-based, high protein meal replacement shakes?

[stefk]

Yes Sol, hens and their eggs. There is so much to tell about these animals. I think and I tell you loud, buying hens, and giving them a good natural environment, if you have a ground, its one of the best investment for a tactical investor !!!!!!

[bpcw]

for harryg, the apples problematic is very instructive. The consumers want beautiful smooth apples. But these apples are less resistant against insects. In my permacultural garden, I have planted ancient belgian varieties, the fruits are rough and not beautiful, but every year, they give me hundreds kilos of succulent apples without any pesticides !!!!!!

Oui, indeed, the best apple is when you eat half of it, look at the remainder, and see half a worm or two left in the apple. Then you know for sure that it is a very good apple - the worms liked it too. Also, by also eating the worms, you get protein, some collagen, soil micronutrients, etc. Makes you strong, like real man.

Unfortunately, I don't often get to eat this type of apple in a cosmopolitan city like Toronto.

Funny, we had a large garden growing up, we had 4 apple trees, one eater and 3 cooker, I used to pick an apple straight from the tree and bite into it and once saw majots in the centre so learnt to look over the apple first and if there was a whole, take a bite and spit it out in my hand making sure I had got all the bad stuff before tucking in fully. We had all kinds of vegetables and fruit and I love the idea of home grown food. Unfortunately don't have land or a big garden, maybe one day but other priorities for now!

[SOL]

Funny, we had a large garden growing up, we had 4 apple trees, one eater and 3 cooker, I used to pick an apple straight from the tree and bite into it and once saw majots in the centre so learnt to look over the apple first and if there was a whole, take a bite and spit it out in my hand making sure I had got all the bad stuff before tucking in fully. We had all kinds of vegetables and fruit and I love the idea of home grown food. Unfortunately don't have land or a big garden, maybe one day but other priorities for now!

One good option is to go to the local farmer's markets or if you have time drive down to the countryside once a week if it's possible. You can find a lot of good stuff there.

[bpcw]

Funny, we had a large garden growing up, we had 4 apple trees, one eater and 3 cooker, I used to pick an apple straight from the tree and bite into it and once saw majots in the centre so learnt to look over the apple first and if there was a whole, take a bite and spit it out in my hand making sure I had got all the bad stuff before tucking in fully. We had all kinds of vegetables and fruit and I love the idea of home grown food. Unfortunately don't have land or a big garden, maybe one day but other priorities for now!

One good option is to go to the local farmer's markets or if you have time drive down to the countryside once a week if it's possible. You can find a lot of good stuff there.

That's a good idea, my wife goes to a local farm once a week from Spring to Autumn to help out, they do all hemp based products and have a license to produce cbd oil, she finds it good therapy, she grows what she can with the little space we have!

[Yodean]

Funny, we had a large garden growing up, we had 4 apple trees, one eater and 3 cooker, I used to pick an apple straight from the tree and bite into it and once saw majots in the centre so learnt to look over the apple first and if there was a whole, take a bite and spit it out in my hand making sure I had got all the bad stuff before tucking in fully.

You should eat the maggots in the center of those apples ... they will make you stronger, like real man. What doesn't kill you makes you better.

[SOL]

Funny, we had a large garden growing up, we had 4 apple trees, one eater and 3 cooker, I used to pick an apple straight from the tree and bite into it and once saw majots in the centre so learnt to look over the apple first and if there was a whole, take a bite and spit it out in my hand making sure I had got all the bad stuff before tucking in fully.

You should eat the maggots in the center of those apples ... they will make you stronger, like real man. What doesn't kill you makes you better.

Better than maggots and probably much tastier are a grasshopper, the light green kind. I was in Kenya I think i forget now when I stopped at a place and saw these guys roasting grasshoppers as you would a piece of meat. They saw me looking at said I should try one that they tasted like saltines crackers. Being the courageous type I said what the hell and tried it. Have to admit it was salty but closer to the salty fish that Russians and Ukrainians snack on when drinking dark beer.

The second time i tried them was in South America, either In Peru or Ecuador

https://maincoursegrasshopper.weebly.co ... ppers.html

[Yodean]

Sixteen studies met the eligibility criteria. Muscle-strengthening activities were associated with a 10–17% lower risk of all-cause mortality, cardiovascular disease (CVD), total cancer, diabetes and lung cancer. No association was found between muscle-strengthening activities and the risk of some site-specific cancers (colon, kidney, bladder and pancreatic cancers). J-shaped associations with the maximum risk reduction (approximately 10–20%) at approximately 30–60 min/week of muscle-strengthening activities were found for all-cause mortality, CVD and total cancer, whereas an L-shaped association showing a large risk reduction at up to 60 min/week of muscle-strengthening activities was observed for diabetes. Combined muscle-strengthening and aerobic activities (versus none) were associated with a lower risk of all-cause, CVD and total cancer mortality.

Muscle-strengthening activities were inversely associated with the risk of all-cause mortality and major non-communicable diseases including CVD, total cancer, diabetes and lung cancer; however, the influence of a higher volume of muscle-strengthening activities on all-cause mortality, CVD and total cancer is unclear when considering the observed J-shaped associations.

https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/early/2022 ... 021-105061

*****

This is why fellow sub stefk will live > 120 years.

[Yodean]

The beneficial effects of melatonin as an antioxidant have been profusely documented in the literature. In the particular case of its protection against oxidative DNA damage, the evidence gathered so far clearly indicates that melatonin is an astonishingly versatile molecule in this context. It can offer both direct and indirect protection against a wide variety of damaging agents and through multiple pathways, which may (or may not) take place simultaneously.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6017920/

[SOL]

You can mimic or even get better results than melatonin by taking a combo of Magnesium, glycine, L-tryptophan, L- Theanine and if you want even extra Cardiac protection, through in L-carnitine.

I still feel Melatonin leans towards a stress-based hormone, and if one uses it for more than two weeks, your brain gets used to it, so you might have to up the dosage.

Melatonin is an immune modulator that displays both pro- and anti-inflammatory properties. Proinflammatory actions, which are well documented by many studies in isolated cells or leukocyte-derived cell lines, can be assumed to enhance the resistance against pathogens. However, they can be detrimental in autoimmune diseases. Anti-inflammatory actions are of particular medicinal interest, because they are observed in high-grade inflammation such as sepsis, ischemia/reperfusion, and brain injury, and also in low-grade inflammation during aging and in neurodegenerative diseases. The mechanisms contributing to anti-inflammatory effects are manifold and comprise various pathways of secondary signaling. These include numerous antioxidant effects, downregulation of inducible and inhibition of neuronal NO synthases, downregulation of cyclooxygenase-2, inhibition of high-mobility group box-1 signaling and toll-like receptor-4 activation, prevention of inflammasome NLRP3 activation, inhibition of NF-κB activation and upregulation of nuclear factor erythroid 2-related factor 2 (Nrf2). These effects are also reflected by downregulation of proinflammatory and upregulation of anti-inflammatory cytokines. Proinflammatory actions of amyloid-β peptides are reduced by enhancing α-secretase and inhibition of β- and γ-secretases. A particular role in melatonin's actions seems to be associated with the upregulation of sirtuin-1 (SIRT1), which shares various effects known from melatonin and additionally interferes with the signaling by the mechanistic target of rapamycin (mTOR) and Notch, and reduces the expression of the proinflammatory lncRNA-CCL2. The conclusion on a partial mediation by SIRT1 is supported by repeatedly observed inhibitions of melatonin effects by sirtuin inhibitors or knockdown.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/ful ... /jpi.12525

I think there is a vast difference between naturally occurring Melatonin and the one that is consumed as a supplement.


On L-Carnitine

Cardiovascular disease (CVD) is a key cause of deaths worldwide, comprising 15-17% of healthcare expenditure in developed countries. Current records estimate an annual global average of 30 million cardiac dysfunction cases, with a predicted escalation by two-three folds for the next 20-30years. Although β-blockers and angiotensin-converting-enzymes are commonly prescribed to control CVD risk, hepatotoxicity and hematological changes are frequent adverse events associated with these drugs. Search for alternatives identified endogenous cofactor l-carnitine, which is capable of promoting mitochondrial β-oxidation towards a balanced cardiac energy metabolism. l-Carnitine facilitates transport of long-chain fatty acids into the mitochondrial matrix, triggering cardioprotective effects through reduced oxidative stress, inflammation and necrosis of cardiac myocytes. Additionally, l-carnitine regulates calcium influx, endothelial integrity, intracellular enzyme release and membrane phospholipid content for sustained cellular homeostasis. Carnitine depletion, characterized by reduced expression of "organic cation transporter-2" gene, is a metabolic and autosomal recessive disorder that also frequently associates with CVD. Hence, exogenous carnitine administration through dietary and intravenous routes serves as a suitable protective strategy against ventricular dysfunction, ischemia-reperfusion injury, cardiac arrhythmia and toxic myocardial injury that prominently mark CVD. Additionally, carnitine reduces hypertension, hyperlipidemia, diabetic ketoacidosis, hyperglycemia, insulin-dependent diabetes mellitus, insulin resistance, obesity, etc. that enhance cardiovascular pathology. These favorable effects of l-carnitine have been evident in infants, juvenile, young, adult and aged patients of sudden and chronic heart failure as well. This review describes the mechanism of action, metabolism and pharmacokinetics of l-carnitine. It specifically emphasizes upon the beneficial role of l-carnitine in cardiomyopathy.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29241711/


However, I have 6 main supplements that I won't go without

MB, MUMIO, L-Carnitine, Magnesium, Vit D and Zinc

All the other stuff I take i oscillate on and off

[harryg]

Interesting stuff.

On the subject of melatonin, do you think it worthwhile taking as a supplement to sleep better (over a limited time, to do a sort of reset)?

It has been suggested, I haven't tried it because in general I don't like the idea of supplements, especially artificial ones.

[stefk]

https://www.sleepfoundation.org/sleep-deprivation

Quality sleep is super important. Good food and fitness are useless if
you dont have a quality sleep. Without a quality sleep you dont release serotonin, the hormone of good life.

Look all the diseases related with sleep deficiencies !!!



https://www.superpharmacy.com.au/blog/r ... -and-heart

Pure cacao, the super super food,

""The amino acid tryptophan is found naturally in cacao. It helps to enhance relaxation, boost mood and promotes better sleep. This effect has been attributed to the conversion of tryptophan from cocoa into serotonin and the presence of some compounds in cocoa that alleviate mood, thereby protecting against depression. Enhanced alertness and focus has also been associated with cacao consumption.""


""While serotonin seems to both induce sleep and keep you up, it's a chemical precursor to melatonin, the main hormone involved in sleep. Your body needs serotonin from your pineal gland to produce melatonin.""

Cacao is THE natural supplement to take, if you dont like the artificial ones.

[stefk]

And also for a good quality sleep, make a lot of activities outside.

In taoism, you have the notion of yin yang. During the lockdowns, I have discovered the outdoors fitness in the

calisthenics parks, I was forbidden to train in the gym without vaccinepass. In the negative, you always have

positive. Never ever, I will go back to train indoors in the gym. And I sleep better than before.

https://somaticmovementcenter.com/serotonin-melatonin/

[Yodean]

In the negative, you always have positive.

@stefk: indeed, Light oscillates with Dark. This image could be your avatar, lolol. Actually, even better if there were a big kettlebell in the middle of the image - that would be a good avatar for you.

[SOL]

Ok, we created what we hope is the perfect blend of the suggested images by Yodean to create an avatar that should suit STEFK

So STEFK here is the avatar for you. we hope you like it

[Yodean]

Ok, we created what we hope is the perfect blend of the suggested images by Yodean to create an avatar that should suit STEFK

So STEFK here is the avatar for you. we hope you like it

That possibly may be the finest avatar I have ever seen. If I didn't have a good one already, I would consider stealing it, as it fits my ethos extremely well.

Great work, TIT.