IBM option hits entry point

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Triplethought wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 6:37 pm I see INTC that way but not IBM. I worry IBM's time has passed if they can't make Watson relevant. So far my Machine learning friends say Watson continues to fail to impress. although I did buy more at $119 based on recommendations here.
INTC and IBM represent two of my largest holdings at the current time. I have a few tech. and engineer friends, experts in their fields, who continue to try to advise me on which tech. companies to buy, based on all sorts of fundamental arguments, etc., blah, blah, blah.

They think their tech. and engineering backgrounds given them an "edge" in the markets.

I laugh my ass off and ask to see their investment returns. My only question is, did I 2x their returns in the last 5 - 10 years, or 5x to 10x? Usually it's the latter.

Generally, they have been pretty much completely wrong. I continue to mock them and consistently 2x - 5x or better their investment returns over a period of years.

And they continue to call me "lucky" or "crazy." Well, both may be somewhat true, but somehow, engineers seem to think they can "figure out" the markets with their "engineering" minds.

So, I'm glad when I hear your "Machine Learning friends" aren't too impressed with IBM. If it drops tomorrow, I will buy more. Same with INTC.

I love buying quiet, cheap Tech. Titans with significant strategic value to the U.S. DeepState, and who also happen to spin off juicy dividends.

To me, engineers and tech. types are among the best contrarian indicators, as a group. Good for a few laughs when discussing finances and investments.
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Yodean wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:18 am
To me, engineers and tech. types are among the best contrarian indicators, as a group. Good for a few laughs when discussing finances and investments.
These chaps are what lead us to create the Idiot's Index. Smart minds in their given fields, but outside those fields usually dumb as dodos.
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How do I know if I am watching the idiot's index or if I am being used to create it?

Of INTC & IBM I tend to prefer IBM because of all their inventions - you have to think that one of them might work out.

I can't get a feel for Kyndryl yet. Normally the stupid name would put me off (it doesn't take much) but in the absence of reasons for a strong opinion I fall back on my default position - do nothing for now.

So if you know the answer to the first question you can now take the appropriate action.
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SOL wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 5:54 am
Yodean wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:18 am
To me, engineers and tech. types are among the best contrarian indicators, as a group. Good for a few laughs when discussing finances and investments.
These chaps are what lead us to create the Idiot's Index. Smart minds in their given fields, but outside those fields usually dumb as dodos.
Hey I resemble that remark. I have an electrical engineering degree.
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Don’t forget medical providers.

These guys are also brutally bad with investing, it’s comical
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AstuteShift wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 5:09 pm Don’t forget medical providers.

These guys are also brutally bad with investing, it’s comical
Yodean? Yodean? (said in tone of Bueller)
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Triplethought wrote: Fri Nov 19, 2021 6:15 am
AstuteShift wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 5:09 pm Don’t forget medical providers.

These guys are also brutally bad with investing, it’s comical
Yodean? Yodean? (said in tone of Bueller)
I would add the parents, suffering from mass psychosis, who send their offspring into the rapacious college system thinking it's a good investment of time, energy and money.

"American universities pride themselves on instilling communitarian values in students and enlightening them about social justice, diversity, and inclusion. It’s debatable whether their particular take on these important subjects has brought benefits or harm to society.

It’s not debatable, however, that they have practiced the opposite of what they teach. In a nation rife with hypocritical and morally bankrupt institutions and leaders, they and their faculty rank near the top in hypocrisy, greed, and political self-dealing."

https://libertarianinstitute.org/articl ... bt-racket/

All part and parcel of the raw data for Sol's MP and Idiots Index.
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@SOL

All the above sayings are so true. Mencken was way ahead of his time. There is absolutely nothing one can do to same the masses. They want all their information packaged nicely and sweetly. Brings to mind the saying you can't put lipstick on a pig
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Budge wrote: Fri Nov 19, 2021 2:02 pm
I would add the parents, suffering from mass psychosis, who send their offspring into the rapacious college system thinking it's a good investment of time, energy and money.

"American universities pride themselves on instilling communitarian values in students and enlightening them about social justice, diversity, and inclusion. It’s debatable whether their particular take on these important subjects has brought benefits or harm to society.
One thing the colleges may instill is a work ethic. The info is available in books. The professors aren't particularly helpful. But the deadlines force students to work hard, which is why corporations recruit from the universities. Because it's a pool of people shown to be willing to work late into the night to meet a goal.
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A good pool of the indoctrinated (in general). In general Grade C students rule Grade A students. Grade C take the risk while Grade A are happy to be slaves to the grind
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Let's add one more Mencken quote to Sol's excellent list:

"The men the American people admire most extravagantly are the greatest liars: the men they detest most violently are those who try to tell them the truth."
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Two additional great sayings by Mencken

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OK, college educated here, in the 70s. Yes, I played the game. Yes, I have the (mental and physical) scars.

Interestingly enough, most of my close non-work affiliations were self-employed, many for lengthy periods.

Nothing else to add.
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