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AstuteShift wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:00 pm
Honestly this is the only forum I go, indeed it’s great 😊
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Nadeem used to be Good and still provides some interesting viewpoints but I find myself going there less and less. When he started to react emotionally to a Trump win I felt it marked the beginning of the end. Now he is pushing the COVID agenda unintentionally or intentionally, but he appears to have lost focus, plus all these AI tools he is working on at this stage make no sense as AI cannot account for the psychological factor.
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Happy to hear about this Nadeem guy for the first time; and to read your thoughts on him.

That aside, any other alternative investments that you guys are involved with; or have considered?
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xkosmox wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 6:13 am Happy to hear about this Nadeem guy for the first time; and to read your thoughts on him.

That aside, any other alternative investments that you guys are involved with; or have considered?
Honestly, other analysts really use too much emotion in their analysis.

They’re useful to practice mass psychology though :D
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xkosmox wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 6:13 am That aside, any other alternative investments that you guys are involved with; or have considered?
In my experience, most alternative investments turn out to be some variation of a Ponzi scheme - i.e. the founders typically get rich and/or go to jail, while the investors lose - or an investor in one of these schemes needs to accept a very high level of risk for outsized gains.

A lot of alternative investment schemes prey on the hidden desire of many to get really rich, really fast, without sustained effort or taking on massive risk.

There are opportunities to be found on the Dark Web. Otherwise, that leaves marrying rich, inheritance, and winning the lottery.

Perhaps the ultimate, high yield, "no-lose" alternative investment is learning to be happy regardless of how much money one has.
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Gaining wealth is really a subjective term

For one person 200k is enough while another requires 1 million +

In the end, it’s a tool for freedom. Imho, if the objective is not about peace, freedom then the end result is suffering.

The root of all desires is suffering, and you only have so much time on this planet to enjoy it. There are many who chase money and end up miserable

Anyone who uses parabolic language or invokes greed, fear usually has an agenda to rob you
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high risk biotech

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Here are a few interesting small-cap, high-risk biotech. stocks that T.I. may want to take a look at for the more speculative portion of its publications, like Revolutionary Tech. of the TrendBlazer Service:

1) AFMD - experimental oncological treatments; slightly overbought on the monthly, oversold on the weekly, 1st lot range for me is about 6.0 - 6.5;

2) AGEN - immunotherapeutics; overbought on the monthly, overbought on the weekly, 1st lot range for me is about 4.3 - 4.5;

3) ARWR - biopharm./gene therapeutics; overbought on the monthly, oversold on the weekly, 1st lot for me is about 53 - 57;

4) FATE - stem cells, a bit overbought on the monthly; oversold on the weekly, 1st lot for me is about 61 - 65;

5) MYOV - women's health, endocrine products, advanced prostate cancer; very overbought monthly, 1st lot for me is around 20.30 - 21.00;

I tend to use some version of BAFFAW ("buy and forget for a while"): buy at cheap prices, sell 25% when the stock rises 50%, sell 50% when the stock doubles, & let the rest ride;
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Yodean wrote: Sat Sep 04, 2021 9:14 pm Here are a few interesting small-cap, high-risk biotech. stocks that T.I. may want to take a look at for the more speculative portion of its publications, like Revolutionary Tech. of the TrendBlazer Service:

1) AFMD - experimental oncological treatments; slightly overbought on the monthly, oversold on the weekly, 1st lot range for me is about 6.0 - 6.5;

2) AGEN - immunotherapeutics; overbought on the monthly, overbought on the weekly, 1st lot range for me is about 4.3 - 4.5;

3) ARWR - biopharm./gene therapeutics; overbought on the monthly, oversold on the weekly, 1st lot for me is about 53 - 57;

4) FATE - stem cells, a bit overbought on the monthly; oversold on the weekly, 1st lot for me is about 61 - 65;

5) MYOV - women's health, endocrine products, advanced prostate cancer; very overbought monthly, 1st lot for me is around 20.30 - 21.00;

I tend to use some version of BAFFAW ("buy and forget for a while"): buy at cheap prices, sell 25% when the stock rises 50%, sell 50% when the stock doubles, & let the rest ride;
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jlhooter wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 9:53 pm That doesnt mean I am loose but means I have opened my mind up to focus on my own way of working I thank many fot this.
Thanks for the kind words. The best forums tend to function as a venue for exchanging quality "intellectual currency," in the form of ideas and relevant personal experiences. I have learned a lot from the T.I. forums, and continue to do so, and not just about the financial markets.

Often, I learn the most from those who disagree with me most vehemently, or who mock my ideas. :mrgreen:

Another reason I tend to post a lot here is that sometimes I get the feeling that boss man Sol at times gets bored with analyzing stocks and the financial markets in general. These days, I look at a lot of charts, sift through financial news, listen to quality podcasts, think a lot about the markets, etc., and it's all quite fun for me, but I can see how this could all become very boring if one has been doing it for a very long time, on a full time basis.
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Yodean wrote: Sat Sep 04, 2021 9:14 pm Here are a few interesting small-cap, high-risk biotech. stocks that T.I. may want to take a look at for the more speculative portion of its publications, like Revolutionary Tech. of the TrendBlazer Service:

I tend to use some version of BAFFAW ("buy and forget for a while"): buy at cheap prices, sell 25% when the stock rises 50%, sell 50% when the stock doubles, & let the rest ride;
I'd be interested in your returns from this method. Do you keep track of it separately? If I'm remembering correctly, a criticism Buffett had of Ben Graham's method was that he would sell winners too soon (50%?) and thereby not get enough profit to overcome losses and impacting overall performance.
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Yodean wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 3:26 am Another reason I tend to post a lot here is that sometimes I get the feeling that boss man Sol at times gets bored with analyzing stocks and the financial markets in general. These days, I look at a lot of charts, sift through financial news, listen to quality podcasts, think a lot about the markets, etc., and it's all quite fun for me, but I can see how this could all become very boring if one has been doing it for a very long time, on a full-time basis.
If all did was look at stocks then I would have been bored more than 10 years ago. Luckily the MP component of the markets interest me and I have found there are many interrlated fields that connect to the markets. For example, if one claims to be a good investor then by default one has to be interested in good health. Good health is the ultimate investment. if one is not then one is not an investor. This person would be closer to what is known as a gambler.

Overall though Yodean you are right. Markets on their own can only hold my interest for a limited time in a given week. The interrelated connectors, however, they can hold my attention much longer.
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Budge wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:13 am I'd be interested in your returns from this method. Do you keep track of it separately?
BAFFAW has been a profitable strategy for me in aggregate, over the years. Naturally, any strategy or tactic needs to be refined and improved over time.

BAFFAW tends to work the best when the following conditions are met:

-highly volatile, small cap stocks, where the primary trend/narrative is up (i.e. biotech, A.I., man-made climate change, China, cryptos, nuclear energy, etc.);

-you don't take traditional fundamental analyses or technical analyses too seriously when applying BAFFAW;

-you don't use firm stops;

-you accept that there will be lots of market manipulation, "pump and dump," etc. - the whole idea of BAFFAW is that when applied well, it neutralizes all of the aforementioned to some extent;

-you are patient (you may need to wait months to years to profit), and disciplined with your exit strategy ("Triad or Quad" exits);

-the exit strategy, which I monikered the "Triad Exit" strategy, is to exit the position in at least three lots (you may also exit in four lots, called the "Quad Exit" strategy; this may be modified according to the stock and/or market conditions, but the primary compelling reasons for the multiple exit points are as follows:

2) the 1st exit point (you sell 25% to 33% of the established position) is to take minor profits and to de-risk your position;

3) the 2nd exit point is to take more profits, and by this point, you in a sense have completely de-risked the position (i.e. your profits at this point will have covered your cost basis);

4) the 3rd +/- 4th exit points is to do the whole "let your winners run" thing;

BAFFAW works best for experienced, disciplined investors who are used to high volatility and won't panic sell (nor panic buy). Also, FDG (Falling Dagger Gambit) may be combined with BAFFAW in various ways for even greater profit.

You'll miss some upside with BAFFAW, of course, as you pointed out, but you'll also avoid downside, especially with the type of stocks for which BAFFAW is designed. For example, let's say stock A spikes up, but the investor gets greedy and doesn't carry out the first exit sell - then the stock falls back down, and keeps going down. So with BAFFAW you potentially lose some upside but it helps you avoid a lot of downside (i.e. avoiding the "dump" part of the "pump and dump" that is often seen in these small cap stocks).

I've used it sparingly over the years, and it's always been profitable. Sometimes you make a nice profit over all the exit points of the Triad Exit or Quad Exit, and yet the stock continues to soar higher. So you do need to learn to not feel bad when that happens.

Currently, I have been using it on ATBPF (as discussed in the TB forum) - accumulating small lots when the price drops below $1. I am 70% sure it's an $8-10 stock given a "breathing room" of 3 - 5 years. The rest is basically just noise.
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Too focused on markets will cause one to self destruct or become too self absorbed. I’m guilty of this in the beginning lol, luckily curiosity did not kill this cat yet :mrgreen:

It’s best to view markets like mental training, sort of like when Goku and his Son trained in a hyperbolic time chamber to get physically stronger except you do this with your mind

Michael Jordan used to play mental games in his mind all the time, to keep that fire alive. Pretty interesting concepts

The astute mind vs the emotional irrational lizard brain in you, who will win? :mrgreen:
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AstuteShift wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:12 am It’s best to view markets like mental training, sort of like when Goku and his Son trained in a hyperbolic time chamber to get physically stronger except you do this with your mind
It's surprising how many simple, yet important, lessons are embedded in good anime. Back in the day, Trunks (Vegeta's kid) was my favourite character in that series.
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Yodean wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 2:24 pm
AstuteShift wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:12 am It’s best to view markets like mental training, sort of like when Goku and his Son trained in a hyperbolic time chamber to get physically stronger except you do this with your mind
It's surprising how many simple, yet important, lessons are embedded in good anime. Back in the day, Trunks (Vegeta's kid) was my favourite character in that series.
Even Yugioh with Seto Kaiba, child prodigy and viewed cards like owning companies, my favorite character lol
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xkosmox wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 4:32 pm Hello everyone; just wanted to find out what kinds of alternative investments everyone is invested into, outside of TI that is still pretty worthwhile.

I'll start:
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