Life extension theraphies and more

[stefk]

Why not work backwards? Check the oldest living persons and see what their diet and health regime is or was. It seems to me all this honey, special diet, supplements, and standing on your head bullshit should be undertaken after checking with 100 plus year olds and confirming that's what they do/did. Otherwise you guys are just masterbating

"standing on your head bullshit" HA HA, you are absolutely right, its crazy, but its a cool crazyness.

"otherwise you guys are just masterbating", well, as long as you have a good bone in the morning, for your hand, or preferably for the wife, concerning me its for my wife, this bone is a good healthy sign, the sign of a good cardio vascular system. Its cool to stay healthy.....

[SOL]

Why not work backwards? Check the oldest living persons and see what their diet and health regime is or was. It seems to me all this honey, special diet, supplements, and standing on your head bullshit should be undertaken after checking with 100 plus year olds and confirming that's what they do/did. Otherwise you guys are just masterbating

genetics also play a factor, however I honestly have no desire to live to 100. If you get that old and cant even wipe your own @ss then you got bigger problems lol.

Not really masterbating since yoga has many medical benefits and it has been studied
Supplements just are additions and they do work but are not 100% magic elixors

Diet is the number 1 factor, along with how you handle stress, also your genes

I have been interested in life extension even before I got into the markets and have been fortunate to know many people that lived beyond 90. My oldest friend died at 104. From what I have seen the number one factor is the state of mind. I knew this lady when she was 90 and she was sharp as the sharpest blades, read voraciously, was always in a good mood and lived alone until the day she died. She was a gem of a person, the other lady I knew made it to 95. Both started to degrade after they had fallen, like George burns. The secret appears to be one's state of mind and moderation. A stressed mind overrides the benefits of exercise, diet and supplements as the number of stressor hormones a stressed mind produces are huge.

Astute you are right, living long is not the key but living long and well. So 100 and living like a veggie is a waste of time. Quality of life is what matters the most. However, a calm mind with the other factors mentioned and then one has a chance to live long and well and that is the key. A long but good life

[Triplethought]

I have been interested in life extension even before I got into the markets and have been fortunate to know many people that lived beyond 90. My oldest friend died at 104. From what I have seen the number one factor is the state of mind. I knew this lady when she was 90 and she was sharp as the sharpest blades, read voraciously, was always in a good mood and lived alone until the day she died. She was a gem of a person, the other lady I knew made it to 95. Both started to degrade after they had fallen, like George burns. The secret appears to be one's state of mind and moderation. A stressed mind overrides the benefits of exercise, diet and supplements as the number of stressor hormones a stressed mind produces are huge.

Astute you are right, living long is not the key but living long and well. So 100 and living like a veggie is a waste of time. Quality of life is what matters the most. However, a calm mind with the other factors mentioned and then one has a chance to live long and well and that is the key. A long but good life

All true. Interestingly enough the last time I looked at the science exercise hadn't been proven to extend life, although it HAD been proven to improve quality of life and most researchers feel that exercise will eventually be proven to extend life.

My personal theory (not science just my thought) is that the human body is much like a car. The fewer calories you put into it (fuel) the fewer miles on the car the longer it lasts. However, if you let a car sit in a garage things start messing up too - batteries die, rubber degrades. So the best thing for a vehicle is to drive it moderately - keep mileage modest, don't stress the engine with heat or speeding. To me it makes sense the human body is the same way. I feel just like a car has a lifetime of say 200,000 miles the human body has a lifetime of X amount of calories (which translate to energy). You can use those calories up in 50 years or 100. Thus, you don't want to over eat and you don't want to over exercise. I think the right thing is a modest amount of food and exercise. Running marathons is probably counter productive in this theory. So far no supplements, foods, or yoga extend life, although science shows so far that low calorie (which probably means eating more plants than meat) is key.

[AstuteShift]

In a way, it’s pointless to care too much since you can die at any moment. Live in the present as tomorrow may never come lol

There is no guarantee. Once you accept it then many choose to be nilhilistic and that rabbit hole can go deep. However that’s better than being asleep since you’re thinking but just need a little change of perception.

For many, they’re living in hell anyway, fear, anxiety, depression, despair, all useless emotions which invade the mind like a parasite and will destroy those who succumb to it

The constant that is always present, is awareness. Doesn’t cure your ailments but brings your mind to a calm, a peace that soothes the body. Also laughter is a good pill

[Yodean]

My personal theory (not science just my thought) is that the human body is much like a car. The fewer calories you put into it (fuel) the fewer miles on the car the longer it lasts. However, if you let a car sit in a garage things start messing up too - batteries die, rubber degrades. So the best thing for a vehicle is to drive it moderately - keep mileage modest, don't stress the engine with heat or speeding. To me it makes sense the human body is the same way. I feel just like a car has a lifetime of say 200,000 miles the human body has a lifetime of X amount of calories (which translate to energy). You can use those calories up in 50 years or 100. Thus, you don't want to over eat and you don't want to over exercise. I think the right thing is a modest amount of food and exercise.

Some classic yogic teachings would seem to agree with your pet theory. One of them is that you are born with a fixed number of heartbeats or breaths, determined by your karmic path in this particular life cycle. Once you use them up, you die (or rather, your particular "body-mind" complex).

So activities that cause a lot of excitement and stress tend to increase the basal heart rate as well as cause you to breathe fast, and "use up" your life duration allotment.

With that said, I tend to agree with YY that for me, I'd rather "burn out" than "rust out." It's all about quality of life for me - I'd much rather have 70 or so great, fun, consciousness-expanding years than 90 mediocre, "sheep" years doing what everyone else is doing, following other people's narratives.

Of course, it may be argued if and when I turn 70, I might change my mind.

To be a happy sheep or an unhappy, nearly fully-conscious human? To me it's an interesting question, quite good for mental masturbation.

[stefk]

science shows so far that low calorie (which probably means eating more plants than meat) is key.

Of course Triplet, eating more plants than meat is key. Meat makes your body acidic and its proved that acidification of the body is not healthy.

Now for the plants and the fruits. There are better plants and fruits than others.

https://www.superfoodly.com/orac-values/

When our cells produce energy from the glucose, they produce polluants, free radicals, oxydation, there are also free radicals from outside via breathing and eating. The best method to prevent toomuch oxidation, is to eat antioxydants fruits and plants.

""The ORAC (Oxygen Radical Absorbance Capacity) unit, ORAC value, or “ORAC score” is a method of measuring the in vitro antioxidant capacity of different foods and supplements. More than two decades in the making, it was originally developed by scientists working at the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and USDA.""

The food with the highest ORAC rate fights better than a lower rate.

A bakked potatoe scores 1138, its a good food, raw tomatoes from the garden are excellent with a score of 546. brussels sprouts score 1330. But look at raw cocoa, score 55653 !!!!!!!!!

To fight free radicals to stay young and healthy, eat raw cacao nibs or beans. Its a divine food from the ancient mayas, its a super food.

Voilà, it was the tip of the day

[Yodean]

... as long as you have a good bone in the morning, for your hand, or preferably for the wife, concerning me its for my wife, this bone is a good healthy sign, the sign of a good cardio vascular system. Its cool to stay healthy.....

This is tres importante. "Tip" of the year, voila.

[Centeron631]

According to Dr. Stef and Dr. Yodean this 77 year old was at his max health from many years previous from about 20 months prior to April 2020 when he was on the 100% carnivore diet mainly for ME/cfs as had read that was the best diet to rid of that which has been present for many decades. Other pros really good for mood, losing weight and a few other maladies (Jordan Pederson's daughter is a big proponent of this diet which has helped her overcome some "incurable disease" she has a blog i believe) but which i cannot endorse for those underweight going in.

Several Reasons i got off it and switched to mainly mediteranean diet
1. a diagnosis of stage 3b kidney disease by my GP
2. continuing large losses weight - I weighed about 183lb in 2013 but lost weight on various health diets steadily especially after spending a couple of months in Mex yearly and in April 2020 was down to 132 lbs and i could not stand looking at my body in the mirror
3. excess body cramps (but maybe this was at least partially dehydration and same with later rapid weight gain

When i finally met up with the Nephrologist in July 2020 he rediagnosed my kidney disease (just when i had visions of dialysis) -that looking over my history of GFR readings i had been suffering dehydration and not kidney disease.
By that time on the even restricted for kidney disease version of the Medit diet i was starting to gain weight and eventually about 10 months later weighed steadily about 170.

No i have not recovered from the decades of Me/cfs but doing my energy pacing better and keeping better mood thru mind management but during covid Zoom actually gave me more social life than had in many years.

[stefk]

Excuse me, but what is ME/cfs ?

[Centeron631]

Stef ME is Myalgic Encephalomyelitis and CFS is Chronic Fatigue Syndrome both same affliction called one or the other or both just not to confuse. The Fatigue portion results in a post exertion malais and is similar if not the same effect to what some long covid people r enduring or what some veterans suffered from in middle east wars where chemical were involved. One of the only good things coming from Covid is that over a billion dollars is being spent by the NHI into research projects re "post exertion Malais" where prior to long covid the CFSers received a pittance of that over decades. ME/CFS can have many different onsets routs but the body as a whole is operating in slow motion ie not enuf energy so one has to think on things others do in the automatic. Biomedically they do not have the answers yet and over the decades ive seen many suggestions in this regard. Even if they pin it down biomedically then one may or may not be able to pin down the cure. In meantime pacing one's activities is the best answer and maybe neuroplastic brain excercises.

[Eric]

Another one of the truly evil things coming from Covid is that over a billion dollars is being spent by the NHI into research projects re "post exertion Malais".... Once they pin it down biomedically then they can work on creating a cause and weaponize it against the masses.

Fixed that for you...

[stefk]

"""I use glasses that filter out blue light. I have an EMF blocker on my Computer, hopefully it works as it's supposed to work. I also use a program (http://eyeleo.com/overview) that alerts me to take breaks from the screen and stare at a distant object on the wall for 1 minute. Instead I stop looking at the screen and attempt to do 80-100 pushups lol"""

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It was a comment from Sol on the uranium file.

Sol, do you really attempt to do 100 pushups ? In one time ? if you really want to spend time and energy for pushups, forget the conventional western pushups. this is a poor exercice, with poor range of motion. Go better for the hindu push ups or dands. This exercice comes from planet India, and is a staple for the kushti wrestlers. They mix it with a squat or baithak. There is good range of motion, and you feel more the "flow" with a good breathing.

https://youtu.be/F11t0fSEHEc

To notice, all these guys are vegans !!!!!! you are not obliged to eat meat to become muscular and strong.

[stefk]

https://www.theoctobersky.com/the-forgo ... s-follower

Bruce Lee, the mentor of Yodean, adopted the dands and baithaks for his daily training !!!!!!!

[Yodean]

Bruce Lee, the mentor of Yodean, adopted the dands and baithaks for his daily training !!!!!!!

Lol, yeh, Bruce Lee was ahead of his time. Never afraid to try new ways of training, etc.

I do Hindu push-ups and Hindu squats as part of my training. Like you said, the Hindu push-up is far superior to the regular push-up.

In North America, the Hindu push-up is also called the "Dive Bomber" push-up or the "Judo" push-up - I think the Neo-Marxists want to avoid any connotations of racist leanings, or perhaps to avoid giving credit to the Hindus, lol.

https://youtu.be/mvNcSF-nXg4

I also innovated a version whereby I do the entire Hindu push-up, both forwards and backwards, with my head turned all the way to one side . . . makes the push-up even more challenging, increases flexibility, etc.

[SOL]

Sol, do you really attempt to do 100 pushups ? In one time ? if you really want to spend time and energy for pushups, forget the conventional western pushups. this is a poor exercice, with poor range of motion. Go better for the hindu push ups or dands. This exercice comes from planet India, and is a staple for the kushti wrestlers. They mix it with a squat or baithak. There is good range of motion, and you feel more the "flow" with a good breathing.

Yes, I attempt many times i can get over 100, as high as 120, sometimes if I am tired it is around 80. However, it is not the Hindu pushup. I am sure if I try these pushups, I will be lucky to hit 40 to 50. However, they do appear to be far superior.

As for vegans, note how powerful the Gorilla, it's ripped and its diet is entirely vegan if I am not mistaken