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All that matters really is whether you maintain or cut calories by calculating calorie intake

Of course, you always want to eat rich dense nutrient foods, however to maintain a normal body weight, it does require some calculation, imho.

Obesity is tied to a whole host of diseases, so discipline is required. However, no one really likes doing it, even myself :D

However, after a while, it becomes second nature. To others it’s abhorrent but who cares as long it’s effective to ones main goals
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SOL wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 9:31 am Open-Minded individuals embrace different opinions. I should have expanded on my high-fat statement, A high-fat diet ( meaning that your diet is mostly based on high-fat foods) is not what I meant to imply. I mean I eat a lot of eggs and the farmer's cheese etc I referred to was for a limited period as I was trying to make a point. I actually eat a huge amount if fruits and natural berries are unreal in terms of their taste and nutrient quality

I also consume large amounts of Raw Honey, decent amounts of good quality chocolate (mostly darK). I agree with your take on potatoes, onions and garlic. However, carrots are great as they are a natural antibiotic and help with gut health
absolutely! i was simply illustrating certain fruits and vegetables power. they're all powerful.
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hooligan wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 7:52 pm ... dont forget wildflower honey. unbeatable for immunity. packed with phytochemicals.
@hooly:

Wanted to get your opinion on more of the nuances around honey. I've been using Manuka honey for quite a while now. Besides all the purported benefits of honey (all types) through the scientific lens, it also seems to help a lot with my Pitta and Vata imbalances (Ayurvedic lens).

I was wondering what you thought about Manuka honey, vs. wildflower honey. Also, with the Manuka honey they use a "MGO" number (methylglyoxal). I usually consume MGO 100+, which supposedly is equivalent to NPA 6+.

The Manuka honey with high MGO content is quite pricey, compared to other types of honey. Do you think the whole Manuka and MGO thing is a bit of a scam, really just branding, to get consumers to pay more?

Thanks in advance for your advice on this matter.

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Yodean wrote: Wed Aug 18, 2021 3:39 pm
hooligan wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 7:52 pm ... dont forget wildflower honey. unbeatable for immunity. packed with phytochemicals.
@hooly:

Wanted to get your opinion on more of the nuances around honey. I've been using Manuka honey for quite a while now. Besides all the purported benefits of honey (all types) through the scientific lens, it also seems to help a lot with my Pitta and Vata imbalances (Ayurvedic lens).

I was wondering what you thought about Manuka honey, vs. wildflower honey. Also, with the Manuka honey they use a "MGO" number (methylglyoxal). I usually consume MGO 100+, which supposedly is equivalent to NPA 6+.

The Manuka honey with high MGO content is quite pricey, compared to other types of honey. Do you think the whole Manuka and MGO thing is a bit of a scam, really just branding, to get consumers to pay more?

Thanks in advance for your advice on this matter.

:?:
haven't looked into that. to my mind manuka is from deep in forests of countries with less economic development, which is generally good because there's less pesticide spread or general environmental damage. the point of wildflower honey is that the wildflowers aren't sprayed so the bees don't have to bring the pesticides along with the nectar. or gasoline soot, etc etc.

to me that's one important parameter with honey. the other is it shouldn't be heated or filtered which denatures the enzymes and removes the pollen.

i believe honey from everywhere is good and also different because the plant life it's collected from is different and the bee species are different. but the two real issues are the pesticides and the heating/filtering.
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hooligan wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 4:15 pm
absolutely! i was simply illustrating certain fruits and vegetables power. they're all powerful.
My comment was meant in regards to this statement you made. I was trying to state that I found nothing disagreeable in what you posted. I always welcome new information :D
two cents, though this may appear disagreeable:
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SOL wrote: Wed Aug 18, 2021 4:43 pm
hooligan wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 4:15 pm
absolutely! i was simply illustrating certain fruits and vegetables power. they're all powerful.
My comment was meant in regards to this statement you made. I was trying to state that I found nothing disagreeable in what you posted. I always welcome new information :D
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yes indeed i understood:) i was validating your point about carrots. best !
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hooligan wrote: Wed Aug 18, 2021 4:26 pm i believe honey from everywhere is good and also different because the plant life it's collected from is different and the bee species are different. but the two real issues are the pesticides and the heating/filtering.
Thanks for the prompt response. Is there a reliable way to tell if the honey has been heated or filtered?

I just looked at my bottles of honey - "unpasteurized," "naturally bioactive" . . . so, probably not heated. Dunno about the filtering. From Australia.
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I have been amateur apicultor during ten years. I had four beehives. I never warmed and never filtered my honey, no, the honey of my bees. Industrial producers warm and filter to keep the honey liquid. The best honey is the brut honey, immediately from the hive in your mouth !!!!!!
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Yodean wrote: Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:35 pm Thanks for the prompt response. Is there a reliable way to tell if the honey has been heated or filtered?

I just looked at my bottles of honey - "unpasteurized," "naturally bioactive" . . . so, probably not heated. Dunno about the filtering. From Australia.
ah excellent :) never been. wanna go!

labeling is finicky. i believe these concerns go beyond any regulations usually...though i may be wrong. generally you can tell by the look. heated and filtered honey looks like homogeneous thick see-through syrup. it looks like honey but . . .

i believe they can still call it "raw"

unprocessed honey usually crystallizes at room temp. it just looks more . . dense.
i buy honey labeled wildflower, with that look.

this is filtered, though everything else seems good.
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this is unfiltered:
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@hooligan:
Thanks for the info and the images. Been staring at my bottles of honey through different types of light just now, lol. I'll be looking at different brands and reading the labels a bit more carefully. Btw, in my previous post, the Australia comment was where the honey came from - I'm in Canada currently.

@stefk:
Natural of course is always best, but not always possible for those of us living in big cities. A few years ago, a colleague of mine fell off a ladder while trying to get rid of a bee hive in a tree in his yard - he fractured one of his lower leg bones, needed surgery, and was in a cast for a while. I don't mess around with real bees. :lol:

It's crazy the kind of useful, non-financial information one may glean on these forums.
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For Yodean,

one tip for the longevity of your headstand practice career, your neck. Be careful with your neck, its the weak link between the head and the body. What I do everyday, its my 30 years experience of the king, is neck training. In the tutorials I dont think they speak about it. What I do is, lying on the back, flexing the neck with the head in the air, you say 50 times "yes" slowly with your head. After that, without resting your head on the floor, you say "no" 50 times with your head. After that, without resting you stay with your head in the air without moving, isometrics, I stay so during 20 breathings. Its the best method to make your neck hot before putting all your weight on your head. In the beginning it will be hard, nobody is used to train the neck. After some weeks, months, you will have a good looking powerful neck, its all good, for the look and the safety of the posture.

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stefk wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:44 pm For Yodean,

one tip for the longevity of your headstand practice career, your neck. Be careful with your neck, its the weak link between the head and the body. What I do everyday, its my 30 years experience of the king, is neck training. In the tutorials I dont think they speak about it. After some weeks, months, you will have a good looking powerful neck, its all good, for the look and the safety of the posture.

Voilà, it was the tip of the day......
Merci, monsieur. The King Asana is coming along quite nicely - I do it everyday, sometimes a lot, sometimes a little. I can do it for up to five minutes - my neck is pretty strong. My main challenge is balance - I need a wall behind me to establish the initial position. Working my way up to 15 minutes, very slowly.

Prior to this asana practice, I did do some neck training as part of my other practices. When I was a younger man and I was doing Muay Thai, during sparring you get hit in the head at times, so you are taught to hold your neck and chin down in a certain way to stabilize the head and absorb the blows, so your neck gets pretty strong after some time.

Also, my wife says I have a very hard head. :lol:
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Why not work backwards? Check the oldest living persons and see what their diet and health regime is or was. It seems to me all this honey, special diet, supplements, and standing on your head bullshit should be undertaken after checking with 100 plus year olds and confirming that's what they do/did. Otherwise you guys are just masterbating
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Triplethought wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 11:12 pm Why not work backwards? Check the oldest living persons and see what their diet and health regime is or was. It seems to me all this honey, special diet, supplements, and standing on your head bullshit should be undertaken after checking with 100 plus year olds and confirming that's what they do/did. Otherwise you guys are just masterbating
genetics also play a factor, however I honestly have no desire to live to 100. If you get that old and cant even wipe your own @ss then you got bigger problems lol.

Not really masterbating since yoga has many medical benefits and it has been studied
Supplements just are additions and they do work but are not 100% magic elixors

Diet is the number 1 factor, along with how you handle stress, also your genes
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Triplethought wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 11:12 pm Why not work backwards? Check the oldest living persons and see what their diet and health regime is or was. It seems to me all this honey, special diet, supplements, and standing on your head bullshit should be undertaken after checking with 100 plus year olds and confirming that's what they do/did. Otherwise you guys are just masterbating
I am sure you know this, but even if one does what you say, the data acquired doesn't help that much - "survivorship bias," "correlation does not equal causation," etc. I am sure you know what I am getting at here.

And you're assuming I'm doing all this kind of stuff for longevity - others may be, but not me.

Basically, I do all this stuff because I find it enjoyable - I simply enjoy life more when I train in certain ways, both physically and mentally. I feel and think better when I keep myself in shape and acquire new mental and physical skills. And if you've been training consistently for decades like I have, you sort of need to change up your training regimens on a regular basis to keep it fresh and fun.

To me, the "Ultimate Divine Skill" (UDS) is to maximize your enjoyment of each moment of your life. One may practice it at any time, anywhere - it's accessible to everybody.

Since you like to quantify data and avoid "woo woo New Age bogus," I will illustrate how to improve the UDS in a practical manner. Let's say in this particular moment, you are pretty happy - for example, you happen to be prodding Sol about something - you give how you feel this moment a subjective numerical value, like 65%happy/35%unhappy.

Then the goal of UDS is to improve that rating a bit, by doing something with your mind (i.e. recontextualizing or changing how you view that particular situation) or your body (e.g. taking some deep breaths, putting yourself in a better posture, taking a shot of vodka), so the "happy" score goes up.

It works for "negative situations," too. For example, let's say your Zillow holdings continue to crater, and the red number besides that asset grows bigger and bigger. So when you look at it, you experience 10%happy/90%unhappy. You can still apply UDS in this context - the goal is to simply increase the "happy" score a bit and decrease the "unhappy" score. You win even if it's a "1%" difference.

The ultimate manifestation of UDS is to be able to face your death in the next moment with a balanced score. Lifetime of training and practice, this.

Anyhow, to me, all the training, supplements, etc. is really to improve my UDS as much as possible. Longevity actually means very little to me - when the Universe wants me to leave this plane, I plan to be at peace with that moment, whenever it might be.
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