Interim Update March 28, 2023

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Interim Update March 28, 2023

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Here's a sneak peek of our next market update.


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The Alternative TI Dow Theory emphasizes that a negative divergence signal should never be taken lightly, as they are rare occurrences. In the last 20 years, only three such signals have been triggered. What's intriguing about the current negative divergence is that it has been triggered thrice in the span of 11 months. It is even more unusual that none of our indicators is trading in the highly oversold range, and there is no indication of a positive divergence signal either. Additionally, last year's failed Tail End Move, which typically boasts a 90% success rate, further reinforces that the correction is not over. These factors suggest that most indices will likely test or even trade below their 2022 lows, with the possibility of one index diverging and putting in a higher low. This would be the first clear indication of a long-term bottom.

If this were the only warning signal (others were covered in detail in the last update), our concern would be lessened. However, looking back at decades of data, there has never been a scenario where three negative divergence signals were triggered within an 11-month period. Therefore, we will remain vigilant and allocate only a small amount to new plays while building cash until a clear buy signal emerges.
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Wondering if anybody uses these outlooks for general market funds. I have some SP500 index funds. Would it make sense to liquidate them and wait for a more favorable time to reinvest? Thanks
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jricky wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 7:11 pm Wondering if anybody uses these outlooks for general market funds. I have some SP500 index funds. Would it make sense to liquidate them and wait for a more favorable time to reinvest? Thanks
The bigger question is to assess your risk tolerance and adjust accordingly.

Imho, having funds that ride the mega trend is fine.

Then you have an intermediate trend portfolio etc.

Cash is also a position, and nothing wrong with having gun powder
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AstuteShift wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 10:28 am
jricky wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 7:11 pm Wondering if anybody uses these outlooks for general market funds. I have some SP500 index funds. Would it make sense to liquidate them and wait for a more favorable time to reinvest? Thanks
The bigger question is to assess your risk tolerance and adjust accordingly.

Imho, having funds that ride the mega trend is fine.

Then you have an intermediate trend portfolio etc.

Cash is also a position, and nothing wrong with having gun powder
I think Astuteshift is right, more about your reward/risk levels.

Sol has stated that though it is a high probability that we get one more large downturn there is a low probability we won't, so if you don't want to risk everything on being in cash and missing out if this doesn't come to pass then keep some invested, that could be index funds or individual stocks.

No one can tell you exactly how much to be invested and inversely how much in cash, you have to determine this for yourself with the help of TI reccomended cash levels for low/medium/high risk investors. Just make sure you're comfortable with whatever you determine.

I'm currently 72% cash, have little in stocks and the rest in commodities which I'm likely to sell some of because the dollar is due one more upward move. I'm probably a medium risk investor.
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Re: Interim Update March 28, 2023

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Good suggestions all around. Putting the last touches on part two of the update. Here is an excerpt on a possible hedge strategy. While there is the downside risk of having your shares called away, there are ways to deal with it
To protect your position, one potential strategy is to sell covered calls and reinvest the proceeds into far-out-of-the-money puts with at least nine months of time premium. This approach provides an almost free hedge against potential downside risk, but it's important to consider that if the stock experiences significant gains, your shares could be called away.
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jricky wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 7:11 pm Wondering if anybody uses these outlooks for general market funds. I have some SP500 index funds. Would it make sense to liquidate them and wait for a more favorable time to reinvest? Thanks
I like to keep it simple - no one has a crystal ball, so I try to pretend to be the casino instead of a player trying to win in the casino.

My basic framework:

-any given year, there is a 75% probability that the S&P will end the year higher than it started.

-over 80% of the time, the equity markets will generally spend in a bullish phase (the reason the previous two numbers are different is that downswings in the markets tend to be faster than upswings - the whole Wall of Worry thing);

-3rd year of the POTUS cycle is extremely bullish of the 4-year cycle (last negative 3rd year POTUS cycle was 1931, from what I remember);

-NDX off October lows is > 20% up - call me simple, but if there's such a thing as a stealth bull birthing, that's what it would look like to me;

-S&P, DJIA both starting to catch up ... sector rotation is often a sign of a new bull ...

-with that said, the bulk of gains in 3rd year POTUS cycles is mostly between October of the preceding year and April 30th of this year;

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Not saying that you should do what I'm doing - I'm over 100% invested (using a bit of margin atm) - have been so since the Jesus Buy Signal was triggered in mid-October, as I started cannonballing a bit around that time - and it's been a tremendously positive year for me so far.

There will be lots of volatility, lots of "legs" down, also "legs" up, lots of graphs drawn with different lines saying this and that, as the markets climb a wall of worry, with a slip here and there.

Risk management is everything - you have to be prepared for that "down leg" - which may happen, or may not - but also upside risk management is important as well.

Embryonic bulls, once they take off, are extremely hard to jump on.

Patience and discipline are important, but one doesn't want to use those as excuses for being afraid and fighting the tape.

It takes a different, perhaps more difficult type of discipline and courage to take risks, too.

Best of luck.
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Sort of nice to see the Bread and Butter for my trading speed. However the same old over problem arises with managing risk with so many fractions of investing in a stock - that being huge amounts of cash have to stay idle on the sidelines (1st lot 25% = 75% on sidline possibly real long time). In reality the calculation of rate of return should include in the denominator all the cash on the sidelines. no?
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Sol

My two cents, this is a reasonable analysis. My concern is IF the Fed decides to let go, then we may have to discuss the really LT bottom condition, which I have a target on. And that price is different, in fact, I have had this price in my charts for several years tbh. Way back. When it became apparent that fundamentals of the economy were not driving the financial markets.

And another perspective from a contrarian pov, this resembles what a ton of so called "experts" are projecting. Which implies everyone has decided the Fed is going to flip and monetary policy will support the market. Until one day they don't...

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MarkD wrote: Thu Apr 06, 2023 7:54 pm Sol

My two cents, this is a reasonable analysis. My concern is IF the Fed decides to let go, then we may have to discuss the really LT bottom condition, which I have a target on. And that price is different, in fact, I have had this price in my charts for several years tbh. Way back. When it became apparent that fundamentals of the economy were not driving the financial markets.

And another perspective from a contrarian pov, this resembles what a ton of so called "experts" are projecting. Which implies everyone has decided the Fed is going to flip and monetary policy will support the market. Until one day they don't...

https://ibb.co/DzH7y9Y
The upper band of the market is still below its all-time high. A bullish outlook would be signalled if the lower band is breached with the SPX closing below on a weekly basis (intermediate timelines). Conversely, if the market trades above the upper band but fails to stay above it on a monthly basis, it could indicate another pattern. While it's too early to elaborate on this, there is potential for a top in Feb-Mar 2024 that could trigger a stronger correction than what we saw in 2022.

As mentioned earlier, a wide trading range is expected in the coming 18-36 months, and traders will have to adapt and re-learn the definition of a broad trading range.
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Hi SOL

RE: BREAD AND BUTTER PF IN TI

Sol, when u use the term Bread and Butter pf could u be more specific in how u r defining that term? When i googled i came up with two different but with some similarities: Speicifally how are You using this term with respect to this new pf starategy ( i know i am not going to see a tractor looking around my home :lol:

Smartorg.com/blog (value point) : people working in NPD and R&D have a management problem ie. making people accountable for portfolio decisions *projects which have a high probabliltiy of succeeding but a relatively low value of success--- as well the article mentions other categories to BB being oysters, perls, white elephants.

Repeating.com (Oct 2021 video) Bread and Butter Strategy : notion any ordinary investor can generate extraordinary wealth by becoming part owner of businesses they use on an everyday basis (some of the best potential investments happen to be sitting in your own home if u look closely enough eg. beer , coffee) and to which the investor can keep adding $ to on a long term basis. (they go on to mention an example in a Peter Lynch book of a group of 7th graders doing this one year as a school project and who beat 99% of all mutual equity funds by doing this )

As to parking money i saw a couple of days ago the idea of how to create a 6 mo emergency fund with a low risk investment strategy that will beat inflation with not too much more risk than say a guaranteed certificate which may work for parking money but i will leave for another entry. thks.
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Centeron631 wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 3:17 pm Hi SOL

RE: BREAD AND BUTTER PF IN TI

Sol, when u use the term Bread and Butter pf could u be more specific in how u r defining that term? When i googled i came up with two different but with some similarities: Speicifally how are You using this term with respect to this new pf starategy ( i know i am not going to see a tractor looking around my home :lol:

Smartorg.com/blog (value point) : people working in NPD and R&D have a management problem ie. making people accountable for portfolio decisions *projects which have a high probabliltiy of succeeding but a relatively low value of success--- as well the article mentions other categories to BB being oysters, perls, white elephants.

Repeating.com (Oct 2021 video) Bread and Butter Strategy : notion any ordinary investor can generate extraordinary wealth by becoming part owner of businesses they use on an everyday basis (some of the best potential investments happen to be sitting in your own home if u look closely enough eg. beer , coffee) and to which the investor can keep adding $ to on a long term basis. (they go on to mention an example in a Peter Lynch book of a group of 7th graders doing this one year as a school project and who beat 99% of all mutual equity funds by doing this )

As to parking money i saw a couple of days ago the idea of how to create a 6 mo emergency fund with a low risk investment strategy that will beat inflation with not too much more risk than say a guaranteed certificate which may work for parking money but i will leave for another entry. thks.
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SOL wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 12:13 pm Here's a sneak peek of our next market update.


If this were the only warning signal (others were covered in detail in the last update), our concern would be lessened. However, looking back at decades of data, there has never been a scenario where three negative divergence signals were triggered within an 11-month period. Therefore, we will remain vigilant and allocate only a small amount to new plays while building cash until a clear buy signal emerges.
Sol, has anything changed in your analysis of the data from the last 2-3 weeks. Are we still expecting a MOAB buying opportunity to arise in April? I am a low risk individual and have been raising cash since this update and have GTC orders ready with very low entry points on my favorite stocks. Just curious to understand what your latest readings are and whether it is prudent to deploy some cash now, rather than waiting for a FOAB/MOAB.
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deep1nSand wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:19 pm
SOL wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 12:13 pm Here's a sneak peek of our next market update.


If this were the only warning signal (others were covered in detail in the last update), our concern would be lessened. However, looking back at decades of data, there has never been a scenario where three negative divergence signals were triggered within an 11-month period. Therefore, we will remain vigilant and allocate only a small amount to new plays while building cash until a clear buy signal emerges.
Sol, has anything changed in your analysis of the data from the last 2-3 weeks. Are we still expecting a MOAB buying opportunity to arise in April? I am a low risk individual and have been raising cash since this update and have GTC orders ready with very low entry points on my favorite stocks. Just curious to understand what your latest readings are and whether it is prudent to deploy some cash now, rather than waiting for a FOAB/MOAB.
An interim update will be posted shortly as we are still working on the next edition. Aside from a minor development, all essential elements are in place for MOAB. As it stands, the signal is currently at the 97% mark. It is highly unlikely to fail at this stage; if it were to occur, it would be an extremely rare development.
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I found The TI Alternative Dow theory to be quite useful over the years, especially when I combine them with sentiment and a few of my TA tools. Long term I see the markets moving much higher. Instead of diving in, I am going to glide in, slip and slide :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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outof thebox wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 11:53 pm I found The TI Alternative Dow theory to be quite useful over the years, especially when I combine them with sentiment and a few of my TA tools. Long term I see the markets moving much higher. Instead of diving in, I am going to glide in, slip and slide :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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