Interim Update Dec 4, 2022

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Interim Update Dec 4, 2022

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The urgent trip I had to take is over, so the update should be ready to go out tomorrow. I will post some excerpts from the next issue below. One major issue is that we might have two primary exit triggers, one for low-medium risk traders and one for higher risk takers. While the markets could trend higher, the risk-to-reward ratio might be too high for those with low-medium risk profiles.

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It is now time to determine your risk profile accurately. After carefully mulling things, we will raise the exit targets in the following manner. One target for low-medium-risk and one for higher-risk players. The panic levels exhibited by those that assumed they could take on higher levels are not something we want to deal with again. Choose your profile and the targets associated with them and stick with them.
I need to look at more data before making a final determination. Still, as we stated a few weeks ago after the new format was adapted, our goal would be to err on the side of caution when dealing with investors with low-medium risk profiles.

This is what the exit triggers might look like

Low-medium-risk players. Dow Targets fall in the 34800 to 35100 range

Higher risk players. Dow exit targets fall in the 35,400 to 35,510 range.


If the above format is adopted, we would only be willing to raise the target for individuals with low-medium risk profiles if the following conditions are met. The strength of the pattern increases significantly, but more importantly, the risk-to-reward profile improves.

For those willing to take on more risk. We could replace the Dow trigger with the SP500; everyone will be notified if and when that decision is made.

Other notes from the Update
It's still not too late to jot down in a journal what you felt when the markets were pulling back firmly a few months ago. Many investors experienced absolute terror this year, and it would be a shame not to keep notes of those feelings. You risk wasting a valuable lesson. No investment book in the world will match your trading journal for a straightforward reason. No two traders are created alike, and what works for the goose will rarely work for the gander.

The MACDs on the weekly charts of all the major indices have experienced a bullish crossover; the only exception is the Nasdaq. And the Nasdaq is dangerously close to experiencing one. If this comes to pass, the odds of the markets rallying until Dec to possibly Jan 2023 will fall in the 65 to 70 per cent range. A few days ago, the Dow was the only index where the MACDs had experienced a bullish crossover on the weekly charts. Look how fast things have changed over such a short period. Furthermore, two indices (Dow and NYSE) are trading above their downtrend lines. As each index achieves this, the probability rises that the markets will rally until Dec and possibly January 2023.

We have a domino (positive) effect in play, and as each domino falls in the right place, the intensity of the signal builds. Hence, these targets could become a reality if Nasdaq follows the other indices (MACDs experience a bullish crossover on the weekly charts).

• Dow: 35,500 to 35,700. Possible spike high to 36,000
• SP500: 4350 to 4530. Could overshoot to 4600 (most likely target falls in the 4500 range)
• Nasdaq: 12600 to 13050 and as high as 13500 if secondary factors are confirmed
• Russell 2000: 1980 to 2040. It could trade as high as 2200.
• NYSE Index: 16030 to 16050, with a possible overshoot to the 16750 to 17030 range.

If two different exit targets are chosen, individuals will need to accurately determine their risk status. I don't want anyone at TI to Have to go through the experience they went through a few weeks ago. We made the necessary changes to ensure that that episode won't be repeated. Take the time to determine your risk status as accurately as you can now.
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Re: Interim Update Dec 4, 2022

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These markets not acting so good last few days.....this AM is a mess.
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Nothing goes up forever; so far, they are letting out a well-deserved dose of steam. Friday could have turned into a blood bath instead; the reaction was muted at best.

However, the safe trade is over, as the Dow hit the original and raised objectives. This does not mean the Markets can't trade higher. The next leg up (probably the final one) will be more volatile.
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jonnyfrank wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:41 pm These markets not acting so good last few days.....this AM is a mess.
This is exactly the type of price action one tends to see when markets are climbing a Wall Of Worry.

Recent gains get digested by rangebound action, etc.

I vaguely remember you mentioning you were shorting the equity markets here and there, in recent posts. The timing of those posts pretty much "coincided" with an interim bottom, from what I recall.

Please let us know when you start shorting the markets again.

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Corporate bond A/D

https://imgur.com/Q1ehERW
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That has not been happening for a while. But if you would like, I could do a little activity in my short account. Perhaps that will jump start the rally....? :lol:

I am long right now, with no shorting at all. However, if I was able to predict the last few days of rotten AM activity I could have made a little coin in the mornings with my coffee....
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SOL,

Thanks for acknowledging the "safe trade" is over. You certainly have nailed the volatility aspect of this market over the last several months.
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jonnyfrank wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:13 pm the "safe trade" is over.
No such thing as a "safe trade" ... everything is risk/reward in some form, really.

Most long trades this year weren't exactly "safe."

Volatility has actually gone down somewhat, based on VIX, consistent with the markets continuing to climb a Wall of Worry.
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I'm not seeing the "climbing".....looks like Santa may be delivering the free fall as his "rally" this year....
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SOL,

It appears the NASDAQ is not going to pop up. Thoughts? Is the thinking we are not going to rally and to brace for the big correction at this point?
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A couple of the option plays I am holding are up on decent volume. Some things are being accumulated.
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Yodean,

I was quoting SOL's use of the "safe trade" term. I should have used quotation marks, I suppose. And yes, it is not "safe", this market. Now the question is have both shoes dropped and are we ready for the big ride down? It is ugly right now, and as much as many hear don't like to believe that the MSM has an impact and that the Federal statistics are perhaps built into TA, I think a spanking wake up call might be coming if some of the numbers this week "disappoint". What should happen according to TA does not necessarily happen, and if the PTB really want to demoralize the many, they can and will crush the market over the holidays. Unfortunately, I don't put it past them, and it appears this complicit administration is all in with their lies and half truths. This seems to be shaping up as a pivotal week for the markets. So far, it is very, very ugly.
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jonnyfrank wrote: Tue Dec 06, 2022 5:25 pm Yodean,

I was quoting SOL's use of the "safe trade" term. I should have used quotation marks, I suppose. And yes, it is not "safe", this market. Now the question is have both shoes dropped and are we ready for the big ride down? It is ugly right now, and as much as many hear don't like to believe that the MSM has an impact and that the Federal statistics are perhaps built into TA, I think a spanking wake up call might be coming if some of the numbers this week "disappoint". What should happen according to TA does not necessarily happen, and if the PTB really want to demoralize the many, they can and will crush the market over the holidays. Unfortunately, I don't put it past them, and it appears this complicit administration is all in with their lies and half truths. This seems to be shaping up as a pivotal week for the markets. So far, it is very, very ugly.
Well I think the term safe was used relatively speaking. The markets rallied on a sustained basis for quite sometime and until yesterday, they seemed to shrug of the bad news. The Dow traded above its Aug highs, now the markets either shape up or sweep the sheep away.

Hey Jonny maybe you should short just a little bit to jump start things. Seem to worked out great last time :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

After typing short it just a little bit, this song popped into my mind

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DN2bQrCW2iA

As for the PTB its the same old story, the only difference is that they are more emboldened now, so they don't even try to conceal their dirty deeds or thoughts.
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"Sweep the sheep away". Well, if the markets plunge 25% and you are holding on because you don't want to be a "sheep", what does that make you? A lamb chop? Roasted mutton?

The markets are showing an overly stochastic flavor to them right now, and it is disconcerting. I don't like it. Hopefully (but we can't use hope as a plan), we get a chunk of good news and the markets ramp up to rally back up through the month.

I am curious as to what SOL's take is on the market right now. Any insight is good insight.

Do you like mint jelly with your lamb, or do you prefer a citrus sauce?
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jonnyfrank wrote: Tue Dec 06, 2022 5:43 pm
Do you like mint jelly with your lamb, or do you prefer a citrus sauce?
I like both, but probably would lean towards mint jelly if i was forced to choose.

I took a fair amount off the table, and after going through 2008-2009 hurricane, I am far better positioned than I was then. On the positions I don't want to sell or maybe I am too stubborn or bull headed to sell. I am taking insurance by purchasing far out of the money puts. I have been looking at many long term charts and I can't help but notice (its been mentioned before) that almost every correction looks like a blip. Good to keep that in mind for the longer term but it does not help with the short term shivers or shits :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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