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[Tobeornot]

Colleges launch TikTok classes for aspiring influencers

Yahoo Finance Live examines Duke University's new class on instructing students on the business behind being an influencer, as well as how much college students are expecting to make in starting-salaries after graduation.

SEANA SMITH: TikTok is taking over classrooms. Forget accounting, finance, those boring classes that maybe you were enrolled in during college. Colleges are now offering classes geared towards social media success for helping students build their online brands. This past summer, 30 students at Duke University, Rachelle, spent their time learning how to become the ultimate media influencer. At first, this kind of, I guess, caught me by surprise. But it makes a lot of sense because when you take a look at Gen Z, they love their social media platforms, namely TikTok. And you could actually make pretty good money on it.

RACHELLE AKUFFO: And, you know, when you think about it, we've seen so much movement in the name, image, likeness space for college athletes. What if you're not an athlete? What if you just want to figure out your personal brand, as we're always hearing from a lot of personal finance experts? Get your personal brand together, and you can really leverage that. Perhaps you won't need to go to college, or perhaps you won't need to get the same traditional job that you thought you were going to get. I mean, think about it. When we were younger and my brother was, like, riding a BMX, now that's in the X Games. So you really never know where some of these careers could take you.
https://finance.yahoo.com/video/college ... 24016.html

I think a better title would be Colleges launch Tik Tok Classes for Aspiring losers. It shows just how far gone this next generation is. I have to agree with Sol. You can't fix stupidity, you can only get rid of it. So how do you get rid of, talk to Mr Lead, lobotomies, or something I am not looking forward to as everyone will suffer, is another depression like event, when the woke finally realize how good they had it.

[SOL]

https://youtu.be/MVLKURgfft0

What a debate? 90% of today's crowd would not be able to keep up with these chaps

[Budge]

https://youtu.be/MVLKURgfft0

What a debate? 90% of today's crowd would not be able to keep up with these chaps

Wonderful. I've enjoyed listening to Russell discussing the famous people he met, Bernard Shaw, Tennyson, Browning, Wittgenstein and his critiques of others.

Re: the inability of 90% to keep up brings me in mind of a comment he made of William Gladstone and those of that generation whose style of speech betrayed being brought up on the syntax of Cicero. Would 90% be able to tell who was Cicero?

Meant to add in this day and age these geniuses can be ignored because they are part of the white, racist Patriarchy. What a great excuse to use to avoid showing one's ignorance.

[SOL]

Wonderful. I've enjoyed listening to Russell discussing the famous people he met, Bernard Shaw, Tennyson, Browning, Wittgenstein and his critiques of others.

Re: the inability of 90% to keep up brings me in mind of a comment he made of William Gladstone and those of that generation whose style of speech betrayed being brought up on the syntax of Cicero. Would 90% be able to tell who was Cicero?

Meant to add in this day and age these geniuses can be ignored because they are part of the white, racist Patriarchy. What a great excuse to use to avoid showing one's ignorance.

What struck me about this debate was the way they did not interrupt each other but were also able to so smoothly take over from where the other person left. It was almost magical; I mean, compared to today's debate this felt like listening to Pavarotti only Pavarotti's of debate; smooth, intelligent, and defending their position without resorting to screaming or name-calling.


I found these quotes enlightening

The first one I am paraphrasing.
If a man has a library and a garden, he has everything
Politicians are not born. They are excreted
The road to Hell has a gentle slope. Slow is the decent. Easy is the way

This speech was quite something

“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.”

[harryg]

https://youtu.be/MVLKURgfft0

What a debate? 90% of today's crowd would not be able to keep up with these chaps

I had to listen to it twice.

What a blessed relief to listen to two cultured erudite people having a chat.

I can imagine the modern version, but I won't sully this thread with it.

[harryg]

Taken from Bertrand Russell’s "message to future humans" 1959:


“I should like to say two things, one intellectual and one moral. The intellectual thing I should want to say is this: When you are studying any matter, or considering any philosophy, ask yourself only what are the facts and what is the truth that the facts bear out. Never let yourself be diverted either by what you wish to believe, or by what you think would have beneficent social effects if it were believed. But look only, and solely, at what are the facts. That is the intellectual thing that I should wish to say.

The moral thing I should wish to say… I should say love is wise, hatred is foolish. In this world which is getting more closely and closely interconnected we have to learn to tolerate each other, we have to learn to put up with the fact that some people say things that we don’t like. We can only live together in that way and if we are to live together and not die together we must learn a kind of charity and a kind of tolerance which is absolutely vital to the continuation of human life on this planet.”

[harryg]

Transcript of the Philosophy of Religion debate, for info:
http://www.scandalon.co.uk/philosophy/c ... _radio.htm

[SOL]

I had to listen to it twice.

What a blessed relief to listen to two cultured erudite people having a chat.

I can imagine the modern version, but I won't sully this thread with it.

I felt the same way. On listening to them talk. I was struck by the rubbish (me being polite as I would love to use a stronger word but like you I don't want to stain this thread) that passes for intellectual discussion today. It is only when you listen to men like this that you realise how desperately empty this world is despite all the technological marvels that have come since those two chaps passed away. What good is a smartphone if the handler is a dumb nut

[SOL]

While in a different league, I do find some of Alan watts talks to be interesting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr_20uE ... PodNetwork

[SOL]

I just stumbled upon this why looking for something else. Fat fingers were responsible and it seems like a bloody good mistake for this video does seem intriguing. It's long I have just watched 30 minutes so I have several more hours to go. I suspect at least Yodean, Budge, Harry, Astute, Scott and a few others might find it interesting. If I did not mention your name it does not mean you won't find it interesting. It's just that I can't remember them all
https://youtu.be/EsUDzTsytMY

Okay share your thoughts

[Yodean]

I just stumbled upon this why looking for something else. Fat fingers were responsible and it seems like a bloody good mistake for this video does seem intriguing. It's long I have just watched 30 minutes so I have several more hours to go. I suspect at least Yodean, Budge, Harry, Astute, Scott and a few others might find it interesting. If I did not mention your name it does not mean you won't find it interesting. It's just that I can't remember them all

Okay share your thoughts

Geez, Sol, that's almost 5 hours - even with 2x speed, it's too long. Lol. With that said, I used to be really into this kind of stuff, and it is interesting, but could also devolve into mental masturbation.

Camus' _L'etranger_, much shorter, gets at the core issue of earthly life and forces the critical reader to go to areas generally beyond her filters, based on what happens to the protagonist. Highly recommended.

Before awakening: chop wood, carry water. After awakening, chop wood, carry water, all the while noticing Ms. Death walks closely behind.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1510003259494309889

[SOL]

Geez, Sol, that's almost 5 hours - even with 2x speed, it's too long. Lol. With that said, I used to be really into this kind of stuff, and it is interesting, but could also devolve into mental masturbation.

Camus' _L'etranger_, much shorter, gets at the core issue of earthly life and forces the critical reader to go to areas generally beyond her filters, based on what happens to the protagonist. Highly recommended.

Before awakening: chop wood, carry water. After awakening, chop wood, carry water, all the while noticing Ms. Death walks closely behind.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1510003259494309889

Hahahah well I was hoping you would summarize it and then I could 5x speed through it. Jokes aside It is meant to be watched in pieces and some parts should be skipped. I did not listen much to the introduction I preferred the debate between the two gents. You can get most of what you need I think in the first 40 minutes. Well I that is what I think as I stopped at 40 minutes lol

[scott]

I just stumbled upon this why looking for something else. Fat fingers were responsible and it seems like a bloody good mistake for this video does seem intriguing. It's long I have just watched 30 minutes so I have several more hours to go. I suspect at least Yodean, Budge, Harry, Astute, Scott and a few others might find it interesting. If I did not mention your name it does not mean you won't find it interesting. It's just that I can't remember them all


Okay share your thoughts

Dammit SOL, you poked (that's a good thing ) me! I didn't watch the whole thing either, mainly because I've read about existentialism. In a nutshell (my brain) its as simple as you exist because you exist (why ask why if you accept that simplification).

A rock exists as well as we do, difference being we are conscious and can reason. We can reason and question to the point of "Nausea", the title of a book by Sartre. Because we have to (maybe children don't) make choices, we tend to reason. I think most of us don't reason to the point of being nauseous, but make a decision, choose, before that point.

Could be a part of why you say PhD should stand for permanent head damage. Every brain has it's limits, and it stands to reason the highly educated, with useless, or dubious, or inapplicable information, limit themselves, their capacity to reason. The best cosmologist in the world, trying to explain the universe, could be likened to a single cell plankton in a cup of water, trying to explain world topography.

A multitude of implications in this, so I won't try to expound unless prompted!

[SOL]

I just stumbled upon this why looking for something else. Fat fingers were responsible and it seems like a bloody good mistake for this video does seem intriguing. It's long I have just watched 30 minutes so I have several more hours to go. I suspect at least Yodean, Budge, Harry, Astute, Scott and a few others might find it interesting. If I did not mention your name it does not mean you won't find it interesting. It's just that I can't remember them all


Okay share your thoughts

Dammit SOL, you poked (that's a good thing ) me! I didn't watch the whole thing either, mainly because I've read about existentialism. In a nutshell (my brain) its as simple as you exist because you exist (why ask why if you accept that simplification).

A rock exists as well as we do, difference being we are conscious and can reason. We can reason and question to the point of "Nausea", the title of a book by Sartre. Because we have to (maybe children don't) make choices, we tend to reason. I think most of us don't reason to the point of being nauseous, but make a decision, choose, before that point.

Could be a part of why you say PhD should stand for permanent head damage. Every brain has it's limits, and it stands to reason the highly educated, with useless, or dubious, or inapplicable information, limit themselves, their capacity to reason. The best cosmologist in the world, trying to explain the universe, could be likened to a single cell plankton in a cup of water, trying to explain world topography.

A multitude of implications in this, so I won't try to expound unless prompted!

Well then i think this song is a good response to your response
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8kNsDR9kMc

[scott]

Well then i think this song is a good response to your response
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8kNsDR9kMc

Push it in the bush, slam the ham. Yup, animal urges a major, common, perspective.