Viruses are they real? This Guy seems to think they are not

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I starting this thread here based on the question you poised to Yodean here
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=290&p=5720#p5720

After watching that video and several others I got so intrigued on the topic that I spent several hours and the more time I spent the deeper the rabbit hole became

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwnVYhrjE_4



Microbiologist and Virologist Dr. Stefan Lanka: “Viruses Do Not Cause Diseases and Vaccines are Not Effective”

Even up to this day, there is still no scientific evidence that vaccines are effective against the so-called “viruses”. The reason why this claim has no solid scientific basis is that there are no proofs itself that these biological agents what they call “viruses” cause diseases in the first place. In 2001, a German molecular biologist named Stefan Lanka and his colleague named Karl Krafeld wrote a book entitled “Impfen – Völkermord im dritten Jahrtausend?” (Vaccination – Genocide in the third millennium?) in which they claim that this is the case. And as one of the validations for this claim, in 2017 the German Federal Supreme Court has made a final decision agreeing that there wasn’t enough evidence to support that the “measles virus” exists. In this court trial, Dr. Lanka even offered to pay 100,000 Euro for someone who can prove the opposite.

Here is the short chronology of the event:

“On March 12, 2015, the District Court Ravensburg in southern Germany ruled that the criteria of the advertisement had been fulfilled ordering Dr. Lanka to pay up. Dr. Lanka appealed the ruling. On February 16, 2016, the Higher Regional Court of Stuttgart (OLG) re-evaluated the first ruling, judging that Dr. Bardens did not meet the criteria since he failed to provide proof for the existence of the measles virus presented in one publication, as asked by Dr. Lanka in his announcement. Therefore, Dr. Lanka does not have to pay the prize money. On January 16, 2017, the First Civil Senate of the German Federal Court of Justice (BGH) confirmed the ruling of the OLG Stuttgart.”

During the “measles virus trial”, the head of the National Reference Institute for Measles at the Robert Koch Institute (RKI) named Dr. Annette Mankertz admitted an important fact that “may explain the increased rate of vaccination-induced disabilities, namely of vaccination against measles, and why and how specifically this kind of vaccination seems to increasingly trigger autism”. There were five experts who presented the results of the scientific studies appointed the higher court. These five experts, one named Prof. Dr. Andreas Podbielski, “consistently found that none of the six publications which were introduced to the trial contains scientific proof of the existence of the alleged measles virus”. This was confirmed independently by two recognized German laboratories, including the world’s largest and leading genetic Institute, proving that “the authors of the six publications in the measles virus case were wrong, and as a direct result all measles virologists are still wrong today”:

https://www.weblyf.com/2020/05/microbio ... effective/



Dr. Stefan Lanka: “All claims about viruses as pathogens are false”


My thesis is not complex: all claims about viruses as pathogens are false and are based on easily recognized, understandable, and verifiably false interpretations.
The true causes of the diseases and phenomena attributed to viruses now have a different explanation, and note one that is much clearer than the current pseudo-explanations.

This is because while scientists in laboratories think they are working with viruses, in fact they are only working with certain components of dying tissues or cells acquired under very special circumstances. Their basic belief is that these tissues and cells die because they are infected with a virus.

In reality, these laboratory tissues and cells die because they are starved and poisoned as a result of the methodology of testing per se. Virologists mainly believe in the existence of viruses because they administer to the tissues and cells supposedly “infected” blood, saliva, or other presumably “infected” body fluids, and this, it must be emphasized, then on top of the cessation of nutrient solution and after the initiation of poisoning by toxic antibiotics. The great insight, however, is that the tissue and those cells would also die, and do so completely on their own – even without the addition of the supposedly ‘infected’ materials.

The situation today
The virologists don’t get this! By the most basic scientific standards, they should have at least conducted control tests to be sure that it was really ‘viruses’ that led to cell and tissue death. In order to effectively establish the alleged ‘multiplication’ of viruses in cells, they should have conducted additional tests in a control group administering sterile substances from core healthy people. This was to check that, of course, it was not the method itself that produced or falsified the results.

These control experiments have not been carried out in ‘science’ to date. In the light of the measles-virus process, I did have these control experiments performed, and in an independent lab, with the result that the tissue and the cells indeed die just as well as if they had come into contact with so-called ‘infected’ material. This seems to me to be an important finding, but on the other hand it is also trivial, since it is precisely the task of control experiments to rule out the possibility that the method or technique used is not responsible for the result rather than the reality itself.

Control experiments are thus of the highest priority and are even a basic condition for a result to be considered ‘scientific’. As we shall see, the court-appointed expert on the measles virus trial – Dr. Podbielski, see further in this article – found that some basic publications of fundamental importance to virology as a whole (notably John Franklin Enders’ June 1954 paper, and six more articles thereafter) contained no control experiments.

https://greatreject.org/dr-stefan-lanka ... are-false/


Dr. Stefan Lanka 2020 Article Busts the Virus Misconception



The virus misconception is at the heart
of Operation Coronavirus, because without the concept of germ theory and without the horror story of the killer virus, most people would not buy the NWO-directed official narrative of COVID propaganda. In a previous article on the nature of the virus, I have discussed the heroic efforts of German virologist Dr. Stefan Lanka, who won a landmark case in 2017 which went all the way to the German Supreme Court. Lanka proved in the highest court of the land that measles was not caused by a virus, and that there was in fact no such thing as a measles virus. Lanka is still busy working, and he wrote this article earlier this year (translated into English here) entitled ““The Misconception called Virus”” in which he explains the history of how mainstream science went horribly wrong with its conclusions (really assumptions) to demonize the humble virus and to falsely ascribe pathogenicity to it when there is none.

The Virus Misconception: The Killer Virus Story vs. Deficiency and Toxicity
Lanka’s main point throughout the article is this: when modern scientists are working with diseased tissue, they think the presence of a virus is causing the disease, instead of realizing that the tissue in question has been cut off and isolated from its host, then doused with antibiotics, and that this separation and poison make it diseased and kill it, rather than any virus. Lanka writes:

“All claims about viruses as pathogens are wrong and are based on easily recognizable, understandable and verifiable misinterpretations … All scientists who think they are working with viruses in laboratories are actually working with typical particles of specific dying tissues or cells which were prepared in a special way. They believe that those tissues and cells are dying because they were infected by a virus. In reality, the infected cells and tissues were dying because they were starved and poisoned as a consequence of the experiments in the lab.”

” … the death of the tissue and cells takes place in the exact same manner when no “infected” genetic material is added at all. The virologists have apparently not noticed this fact. According to … scientific logic and the rules of scientific conduct, control experiments should have been carried out. In order to confirm the newly discovered method of so-called “virus propagation” … scientists would have had to perform additional experiments, called negative control experiments, in which they would add sterile substances … to the cell culture.”

“These control experiment have never been carried out by the official “science” to this day. During the measles virus trial, I commissioned an independent laboratory to perform this control experiment and the result was that the tissues and cells die due to the laboratory conditions in the exact same way as when they come into contact with alleged “infected” material.”

https://thefreedomarticles.com/dr-stefa ... onception/


Measles virus put to the test. Dr. Stefan Lanka wins in court…

Since the early 1990s, German biologist Dr. Stefan Lanka has been at the forefront of challenging the medical theory stating that viruses are the cause of infectious diseases such as hepatitis, AIDS, the flu, polio, herpes, or measles. Caroline Markolin has presented Dr. Lanka’s activities in her lecture video “Virus Mania” in great details (watch Part 2 of the recordings on this website – starting at 08:08).

Based on his studies in virology, Dr. Lanka discovered that viruses are vital components of simple life-forms that do not exist in complex organisms such as humans, animals, or plants. His research shows that the viruses believed to cause “viral infections” are in reality ordinary cell particles that have been misinterpreted as constituents of the viruses in question. Dr. Lanka also determined that viruses don’t have a destructive effect on the host, as commonly believed. These findings are in full accordance with the discoveries of Dr. Ryke Geerd Hamer who demonstrated already in the 1980s that contrary to the standard theory, microbes do not harm the organism but play instead a supportive role during the healing process of diseases (see Fourth Biological Law of the New Medicine).

The “measles virus trial” between Dr. Stefan Lanka and German medical doctor David Bardens has by now received international attention (see the 2015 reports in CTV News Canada and BBC News). The court case has not only heated up the ongoing “virus debate”. It also fuelled the discussion about the justification of childhood vaccination and of vaccination in general.

Here is a brief overview of the court proceedings:

On November 24, 2011, Dr. Lanka announced on his website that he would offer a prize of € 100,000 to anyone who could prove the existence of the measles virus. The announcement read as follows: “The reward will be paid, if a scientific publication is presented, in which the existence of the measles virus is not only asserted, but also proven and in which, among other things, the diameter of the measles virus is determined.”

In January 2012, Dr. David Bardens took Dr. Lanka up on his pledge. He offered six papers on the subject and asked Dr. Lanka to transfer the € 100,000 to his bank account.

The six publications are:

1. Enders JF, Peebles TC. Propagation in tissue cultures of cytopathogenic agents from patients with measles. Proc Soc Exp Biol Med. 1954 Jun;86(2):277–286.

2. Bech V, Magnus Pv. Studies on measles virus in monkey kidney tissue cultures. Acta Pathol Microbiol Scand. 1959; 42(1): 75–85

3. Horikami SM, Moyer SA. Structure, Transcription, and Replication of Measles Virus. Curr Top Microbiol Immunol. 1995; 191: 35–50.

4. Nakai M, Imagawa DT. Electron microscopy of measles virus replication. J Virol. 1969 Feb; 3(2): 187–97.

5. Lund GA, Tyrell, DL, Bradley RD, Scraba DG. The molecular length of measles virus RNA and the structural organization of measles nucleocapsids. J Gen Virol. 1984 Sep;65 (Pt 9):1535–42.

6. Daikoku E, Morita C, Kohno T, Sano K. Analysis of Morphology and Infectivity of Measles Virus Particles. Bulletin of the Osaka Medical College. 2007; 53(2): 107–14.

https://learninggnm.com/SBS/documents/virus-trial.html