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Yesterday, I have seen your new president and his speach. He spoke a lot about racism and white supremacism. He declares war against white supremacists!!!!! what is a white supremacist? is black supremacism better? BLM is also supremacism? Is white supremacism white privilege? Biden is white with privilege, all the white US politicians have privilege, why dont they give their jobs to the black people? well well, this presidency has sadly begun. A lot of Americans of all colors will regret Trump.
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If the democrats don't change their tune, then we have many mini civil wars are all but certain in America. The Gnosis Panoptes Index experienced another mini-surge (not as big as the other three) and the rage discontent index spiked to a new high. This means that the fuse to a massive load of gunpowder is short and if it's lit all hell will break loose.

We expect the right to start to become very aggressive unless measures are taken to address the grievances those on the right have.
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SOL wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:48 am If the democrats don't change their tune, then we many mini civil wars are all but certain in America. The Gnosis Panoptes Index experienced another mini-surge (not as big as the other three) and the rage discontent index spiked to a new high. This means that the fuse to a massive load of gunpowder is short and if it's lit all hell will break loose.

We expect the right to start to become very aggressive unless measures are taken to address the grievances those on the right have.
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When playing fields starts to level out for those that have had advantages (white supremacists, conscious of it or not and passively enjoying the benefits), they can feel like they are being repressed as it's relative to their perspective.
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Brown eye vs blue eye. Once you recognize the game and the consequences, just play the observer. It's folly for the leadership to peeve the silent majority but that's the plan apparently.
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Alykin wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:15 pm When playing fields starts to level out for those that have had advantages (white supremacists, conscious of it or not and passively enjoying the benefits), they can feel like they are being repressed as it's relative to their perspective.
I reject the premise. No matter how level the playing fields, they may never seem so for you. You appear to be unbalanced by that chip on your shoulder?
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Budge wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:24 pm
Alykin wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:15 pm When playing fields starts to level out for those that have had advantages (white supremacists, conscious of it or not and passively enjoying the benefits), they can feel like they are being repressed as it's relative to their perspective.
I reject the premise. No matter how level the playing fields, they may never seem so for you. You appear to be unbalanced by that chip on your shoulder?
While I do tend to take an opposing view point for the sake of argument, what does that have to do with my statement?
(note: I'm part of the 'white male' group enjoying the benefits of American society, but I still think the right needs to take a chill pill and do what's best for all, not just themselves)
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Alykin wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:57 pm
Budge wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:24 pm
Alykin wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:15 pm When playing fields starts to level out for those that have had advantages (white supremacists, conscious of it or not and passively enjoying the benefits), they can feel like they are being repressed as it's relative to their perspective.
I reject the premise. No matter how level the playing fields, they may never seem so for you. You appear to be unbalanced by that chip on your shoulder?
While I do tend to take an opposing view point for the sake of argument, what does that have to do with my statement?
(note: I'm part of the 'white male' group enjoying the benefits of American society, but I still think the right needs to take a chill pill and do what's best for all, not just themselves)
Both sides lose since the disease is fiat and the polarization, famine and poverty are symptoms of the disease

Imho it’s only going to get worse for those that get attached to the ideals of America. The top players only are loyal to trends and do not care in the slightest to destroy a country within for their own gain

Don’t get emotional in this scrabble or else it’s easy to get lost in the mass mindset
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Alykin wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:57 pm
Budge wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:24 pm
Alykin wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:15 pm When playing fields starts to level out for those that have had advantages (white supremacists, conscious of it or not and passively enjoying the benefits), they can feel like they are being repressed as it's relative to their perspective.
I reject the premise. No matter how level the playing fields, they may never seem so for you. You appear to be unbalanced by that chip on your shoulder?
While I do tend to take an opposing view point for the sake of argument, what does that have to do with my statement?
(note: I'm part of the 'white male' group enjoying the benefits of American society, but I still think the right needs to take a chill pill and do what's best for all, not just themselves)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
Real genuine "white supremacists" are about 0.01% of white people (historically Democrats), and 80% of those real white supremacists are already in prison. Why make such a huge deal about <0.01% of the population?
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The old saying is that money talks and bullshit walks, partially true, but the main reason to make a big deal out of something small is that bullshit sells well when wrapped in a nice package. So the idea here is to lump everyone that leans slightly right (that applies to many democrats, centrists and those that are lean to the right but are not extremists) into one group and label them the Alt-right or white supremacists or whatever other crappy handle you want to give them. The idea is to conquer and divide and in doing so increase the polarization factor because its 10X easier to fleece a polarized person

Moving to a new point

The Democrat camp is going to splinter badly over the next 4 years, something big could occur in less than 12 months. The extreme left element in their camps is going to raise their heads and start demanding more and more. This camp, for now, is masquerading under the umbrella of trying to improve the environment, help the poor by increasing the minimum wage, etc, etc, everything they are attempting to do is via force so it will fail or create a massive blowback. However, we expect huge fissures to develop in the Democratic party

and there is a roughly a 60% a chance a new social media platform will debut that will blow both FB and Twitter out of the water as they will embrace free speech as opposed to FB and Twitter that embrace something called "my speech". in other words if you don't follow me we will knock you out
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Eric wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:36 am
Alykin wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:57 pm
Budge wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:24 pm

I reject the premise. No matter how level the playing fields, they may never seem so for you. You appear to be unbalanced by that chip on your shoulder?
While I do tend to take an opposing view point for the sake of argument, what does that have to do with my statement?
(note: I'm part of the 'white male' group enjoying the benefits of American society, but I still think the right needs to take a chill pill and do what's best for all, not just themselves)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
Real genuine "white supremacists" are about 0.01% of white people (historically Democrats), and 80% of those real white supremacists are already in prison. Why make such a huge deal about <0.01% of the population?
Unfortunately Eric we are dealing with the Goebbels effect. Tell a lie, the bigger the whopper the better, and repeat and repeat through your captured media and the ill educated believe it.

Facts don't matter.
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Alykin wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:57 pm
Budge wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:24 pm
Alykin wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:15 pm When playing fields starts to level out for those that have had advantages (white supremacists, conscious of it or not and passively enjoying the benefits), they can feel like they are being repressed as it's relative to their perspective.
I reject the premise. No matter how level the playing fields, they may never seem so for you. You appear to be unbalanced by that chip on your shoulder?
While I do tend to take an opposing view point for the sake of argument, what does that have to do with my statement?
(note: I'm part of the 'white male' group enjoying the benefits of American society, but I still think the right needs to take a chill pill and do what's best for all, not just themselves)
"While I do tend to take an opposing view point for the sake of argument". I'm sorry that's a cop out. You make a case and when challenged fall back on that old saw.

"I'm part of the 'white male' group enjoying the benefits of American society". Are you boasting or complaining? I guess it's the latter? I think you need go peddle your white guilt somewhere else.

When I came to this country over 30 years ago, I'd tell people the opportunities here were amazing for someone who was prepared to work at it. Equality of opportunity not equality of outcome. Unfortunately, too many have been sold the "free shit" myth. Pity they're not taught the Pareto Principle.
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Life is not fair, however you do have free will and the power to change

The ratio won’t change, 90 percent lose and only 10 percent win
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Budge wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:36 pm
Alykin wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:57 pm
Budge wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:24 pm

I reject the premise. No matter how level the playing fields, they may never seem so for you. You appear to be unbalanced by that chip on your shoulder?
While I do tend to take an opposing view point for the sake of argument, what does that have to do with my statement?
(note: I'm part of the 'white male' group enjoying the benefits of American society, but I still think the right needs to take a chill pill and do what's best for all, not just themselves)
"While I do tend to take an opposing view point for the sake of argument". I'm sorry that's a cop out. You make a case and when challenged fall back on that old saw.

"I'm part of the 'white male' group enjoying the benefits of American society". Are you boasting or complaining? I guess it's the latter? I think you need go peddle your white guilt somewhere else.

When I came to this country over 30 years ago, I'd tell people the opportunities here were amazing for someone who was prepared to work at it. Equality of opportunity not equality of outcome. Unfortunately, too many have been sold the "free shit" myth. Pity they're not taught the Pareto Principle.
I see that white supremacy is a trigger term for people, I should have said white privilege (possibly not much better as a trigger) as I meant it more broadly than the extreme 0.1% that boast about it, and include those that are passively racist and may not even realize it or be willing to acknowledge it. Many say they aren't racist, but when it comes to actions it speaks otherwise, like waving hello to one person on the street, and ducking your head and walking quickly by another that looks different. Not saying people are violent, but the small slights add up on a mass scale.

And Budge, you're saying I'm taking a cop out when you attack my nature instead of the argument made, maybe you should check a mirror.
When someone is privileged but isn't aware of it (thinking they are 'normal' in society compared to everyone else) and they begin to lose that privilege, it can seem to them like they are being pulled down to a repressed state. Again based on their perspective of "where I am currently is the base line", when it in fact compared to everyone else it isn't.

And why can't a statement about myself be providing background info of my perspective without boasting or complaining? I am a first gen immigrant who came to this country over 30 years ago as well, but I've seen how being white has given me the benefit of the doubt repeatedly in various scenarios so I didn't have to try as hard as someone who isn't white to get to the same place. I believe that is white privilege.
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SOL wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:56 am The old saying is that money talks and bullshit walks, partially true, but the main reason to make a big deal out of something small is that bullshit sells well when wrapped in a nice package. So the idea here is to lump everyone that leans slightly right (that applies to many democrats, centrists and those that are lean to the right but are not extremists) into one group and label them the Alt-right or white supremacists or whatever other crappy handle you want to give them. The idea is to conquer and divide and in doing so increase the polarization factor because its 10X easier to fleece a polarized person

Moving to a new point

The Democrat camp is going to splinter badly over the next 4 years, something big could occur in less than 12 months. The extreme left element in their camps is going to raise their heads and start demanding more and more. This camp, for now, is masquerading under the umbrella of trying to improve the environment, help the poor by increasing the minimum wage, etc, etc, everything they are attempting to do is via force so it will fail or create a massive blowback. However, we expect huge fissures to develop in the Democratic party

and there is a roughly a 60% a chance a new social media platform will debut that will blow both FB and Twitter out of the water as they will embrace free speech as opposed to FB and Twitter that embrace something called "my speech". in other words if you don't follow me we will knock you out
I've taken your advice to be an observer. My primary questions are "How do we make money on all this stupidity"?

I observe that solar and wind will get government funding (invest in RUN?).
I observe that fracking and pipelines will be more regulated (don't invest in oil).
I observe the "rich" and capital gains will be taxed more heavily (how do we profit? Perhaps move as many assets into IRA or 401K as you can).
I observe there will be a federal $15 minimum wage (invest in AI and ML...because business owners will have more encouragement to cut staff...which means AI and robots will grow.... and then AI will get "income taxed" in 4-8 years too.)
I observe that climate change will be taken more seriously (and the US economy will suffer).
I observe government will take a greater role in health care (how to profit?)
I observe there will be gun control (don't invest in gun manufacturers)
I observe that business will face more regulation (how in the world do we profit from THAT?).
I observe that we will try to pacify other nations and join with them wherever possible. We will bend over.
I observe there will be a more lenient immigration policy and thus more low end immigrants will come here. Too bad we can't encourage anyone with a STEM Phd or medical degree to come instead).
I observe that biotech/med tech could be a big opportunity given Crispr/CAS9 advances and we don't seem to have many stock plays in this space right now.
I observe that China will continue to win vs the US unless the CCP makes serious mistakes in controlling their economy. (The Chinese won't stop lying and cheating and stealing technology).
There is a danger of war. (China, Russia and the arrogant involvement in other countries problems)
I observe that government programs to help the needy will multiply.
I observe that Biden is doing NOTHING to improve polarization between the working class and the Intelligencia/minority coalition. He will make it worse and there will be civil unrest (but not civil war)
I observe that NO ONE has explained or predicted how the expansion of debt and deficit will end.

Joe's vision: https://joebiden.com/joes-vision/
What do you all observe?
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