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https://newseu.cgtn.com/news/2020-11-21 ... /index.htm

Following these searchers, there is a clear link between low levels of vitamin D and the severity of covid cases.

https://youtu.be/ha2mLz-Xdpg

There is in fact another world pandemy, the pandemy of vitamin D deficiency.
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My immune system stack

Vitamin D with K
Vitamin B12
Querceptin with Zinc

Been working in the hospital since March 2020 and so far covid negative. Also helps to eliminate fear and to relax as much as possible
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That is good news that Vitamin D helps to avoid COVID-19.
I take 2000 IU Vitamin D daily to combat colds and flu.
I started taking it daily more than five years ago after discovering :-
https://www.grc.com/health/vitamin-d.htm
https://www.grc.com/health/pdf/Benefits ... tation.pdf
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I'd be careful about correlation ≠ causation.
Is it possible that healthy people get vitamin D from the sun while being active and sickly people are cooped up inside? I suspect the vitamin D correlation with heart attacks is the same. That said, I have been pounding extra B-complex, C, and Zinc since the weather turned cold... I don't even want the sniffles this year lest my companies Covid Oppression Officer (COO) kick me out of work for two freakin' weeks.
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In winter, the best natural source of vitamin D is pickled herring. Rollmops and maatjes are for me the best preparations. And they also are a good source of omega3. The dutch people is the tallest of the world, it is said it comes from their daily maatjes consumption.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickled_herring
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Eric wrote: Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:17 pm I I don't even want the sniffles this year lest my companies Covid Oppression Officer (COO) kick me out of work for two freakin' weeks.
But even if you feel amazing, like ten years younger, suddenly develop the ability to jump tall buildings with a simple leap, see through walls, and bullets bounce off you painlessly, you could STILL have cv19, because having NO symptoms IS a symptom of cv19!!! Now go get tested! Like, both nostrils, three times, and stick a temp. probe up yer bottom end, yes sir. :o :o :o
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I have a general immune-boosting formula that i rotate around

Main formula take it for 1-3 months (but not continuously) one month on one month of depending on my thoughts on the severity of the bug going around at that time

Methylene blue (MB) diluted down to 0.1% and then i take 90 drops of this with a glass of water, sometimes up to 120. It kills everything, viruses, bacteria, fungus, etc, etc, All boosts brainpower, re-energizes mitochondria, etc, etc
Vit D 15,000 IU as I prefer my Vit D blood readings close to the 60 ranges
Vit A 15,000 IU (not beta carotene)
Vit E 250 to 400 IU the natural version
Zinc 25 to 50mg (usually 25mg)
Astragalus concentrated powder 5 to 10 grams a day
MACA 5 grams a day
B complex 50mg

Maintenance dosage for most of the year
MB 45 to 60 drops 5 times a week with two days off
Vit D 10,000 IU as I prefer my Vit D blood readings close to the 60 ranges
Vit A 5k to 10KIU (not beta carotene)
Vit E 250IU every alternate day
Zinc 25 mg every other day
Astragalus concentrated powder 5 grams three times a week and 10 grams three times a week with a one-off day
MACA 5 grams a day every alternate day
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Sol, I am curious why you take so much Vitamin E? Most people need Vitamin E because they eat too much poly unsaturated fats (PUFAs like vegetable oils ). Their double bonds are easily broken when compared to mono or saturated fats and cause free radicals which Vitamin E helps fight against.

This is why Olive Oil with its high vitamin E amount (which is also a PUFA) does not cause as much damage. It has enough vitamin E to supposedly stop the negative side effects. I am not sure why you would need an extra amount if you are not doing this?

https://carnivoremd.com/is-it-saturated ... yperlipid/

Also, thanks for the post I have never heard for Methylene Blue. I will look into that!
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langdj wrote: Tue Dec 29, 2020 1:35 pm Sol, I am curious why you take so much Vitamin E? Most people need Vitamin E because they eat too much poly unsaturated fats (PUFAs like vegetable oils ). Their double bonds are easily broken when compared to mono or saturated fats and cause free radicals which Vitamin E helps fight against.

This is why Olive Oil with its high vitamin E amount (which is also a PUFA) does not cause as much damage. It has enough vitamin E to supposedly stop the negative side effects. I am not sure why you would need an extra amount if you are not doing this?

https://carnivoremd.com/is-it-saturated ... yperlipid/

Also, thanks for the post I have never heard for Methylene Blue. I will look into that!
In regards to my Vit E usage, it is also an estrogen antagonist and there are lots of foods, that promote estrogen, one of which is the new fads by people to consume plant-based or seed-based milk products

Vitamin E was advocated as an effective treatment for heart disease by Dr. Evan Shute of London, Ontario more than 50 years ago. His pioneering claims, which were unacceptable to the medical community at large, have been confirmed by recent findings from epidemiologic studies and clinical trials."

Animal research in the 1930s was also showing that estrogen had many toxic effects, including causing infertility or intrauterine death, connective tissue abnormalities, and excessive blood clotting. Dr. Shute and his sons, Wilfred and Evan, were among those who considered vitamin E to be an antiestrogen. They found that it was very effective in preventing the clotting diseases of pregnancy.

The Shute brothers began using vitamin E to treat circulatory diseases in general, rather than just in pregnant women--blood clots, phlebitis, hypertension, heart disease, and diabetes all responded well to treatment with large doses.

Vitamin E, as its name indicates, was the fifth type of "vitamin" factor to be identified, and it received its name in 1922, even though its chemical structure hadn't been identified. The public quickly understood and accepted that certain substances in food were essential for life and health, so by 1940 practically all physicians were recommending the use of nutritional supplements.
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SOL wrote: Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:44 am
Vit D 15,000 IU as I prefer my Vit D blood readings close to the 60 ranges
Vit A 15,000 IU (not beta carotene)
Vit E 250 to 400 IU the natural version
Zinc 25 to 50mg (usually 25mg)
Astragalus concentrated powder 5 to 10 grams a day
MACA 5 grams a day
B complex 50mg

Maintenance dosage for most of the year
MB 45 to 60 drops 5 times a week with two days off
Vit D 10,000 IU as I prefer my Vit D blood readings close to the 60 ranges
Vit A 5k to 10KIU (not beta carotene)
Vit E 250IU every alternate day
Zinc 25 mg every other day
Astragalus concentrated powder 5 grams three times a week and 10 grams three times a week with a one-off day
MACA 5 grams a day every alternate day
Nice list Sol . . . I also take an extensive stack, as you know from our previous communications, with many shared entries.

A few comments on your particular stack as listed:

-recommend increasing vitamin E to 800 IU daily (imo, 400 IU isn't enough for most people, unless they are on a near-perfect "anti-inflammatory" diet, which I believe you might be);

-I also take 5k to 15k vitamin D3 (which really is a hormone, not a true "vitamin") daily, depending on how much sun exposure I receive; however, imo, it's important to get vitamin K2 at adequate doses (hard, but not impossible, to get K2 in diet alone) at this level of vD3 supplementation; the theory is that among other mechanisms, you need the K2 and D3 to tell the calcium where to go in your body, i.e. just taking the D3 without the K2 may tell the body to send free-floating blood calcium to arterial walls preferentially - thereby causing the hardening of blood vessels, atherosclerosis, etc. - instead of to other needed places, like bones;

-I like adaptogens like astragalus, although my favourite in this category is rhodiola rosea;

-if someone came up to me and said, "listen, I don't like taking f*$%ing supplements or pills, what should I eat in place of all your fancy supplements?"
-I would probably say, "In that case, try to eat some liver and/or oysters at least once or twice a week." Too onerous to get into all the science and references, etc., behind this, but I do this as well as taking a sh*tload of supplements. :mrgreen:

A form of "supplement" asset allocation? :lol:
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There are other supplements I take; I just listed the main ones. I do take k2, aspirin in powder form, extra b3, Rhodiola, L-theanine, glycine, magnesium, carnosine, Betaine, Alpha lipoic acid, etc., but I oscillate on and of them as the need arises. I also consume a lot of refined sea salt as the so-called natural ones are polluted with mercury and other heavy metals and all you really is pure salt (NACL)for the sodium and to a lesser degree the chloride. I also consume lots of coffee, dark chocolate. I tend not to mix too many foods together in a given day.

As for my lower intake of Vit E, i consume a lot of coconut oil so it lowers the need for vit E and I eat no products that have wheat in them at all. Been wheat free for over 7 years. That means no pizza, pasta, bread, biscuits, cakes, etc. I also don't eat too many nuts and seeds due to the lectins, with the exception being Walnuts and some almonds. But to make for this as I said I drink a lot of coffee, eat lots of chocolates that don't have lecithin in them, lots of ice cream where the ingredients are milk, cream, sugar and some harmless flavouring, or real fruit and so forth.
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SOL wrote: Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:44 am I have a general immune-boosting formula that i rotate around

Main formula take it for 1-3 months (but not continuously) one month on one month of depending on my thoughts on the severity of the bug going around at that time

Methylene blue (MB) diluted down to 0.1% and then i take 90 drops of this with a glass of water, sometimes up to 120. It kills everything, viruses, bacteria, fungus, etc, etc, All boosts brainpower, re-energizes mitochondria, etc, etc
Vit D 15,000 IU as I prefer my Vit D blood readings close to the 60 ranges
Vit A 15,000 IU (not beta carotene)
Vit E 250 to 400 IU the natural version
Zinc 25 to 50mg (usually 25mg)
Astragalus concentrated powder 5 to 10 grams a day
MACA 5 grams a day
B complex 50mg

Maintenance dosage for most of the year
MB 45 to 60 drops 5 times a week with two days off
Vit D 10,000 IU as I prefer my Vit D blood readings close to the 60 ranges
Vit A 5k to 10KIU (not beta carotene)
Vit E 250IU every alternate day
Zinc 25 mg every other day
Astragalus concentrated powder 5 grams three times a week and 10 grams three times a week with a one-off day
MACA 5 grams a day every alternate day
Sol,
I am curious if you recommend a brand or place to buy your supplements or does it matter much. I looked up Methylene blue on Amazon and saw one for fish tanks and the others were for labs and "not for human consumption". Any thoughts?
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For most supplements, I go to Purebulk.com as you get the pure supplement minus all the fillers and additives. For MB I tend to get it from amazon. However, I noticed with surprise that it's kind of hard to get Methylene blue for the last two months

I was introduced to MB by a friend many years ago and initially when he mentioned the one used in fish tanks I was a bit taken back. However, this chap is quite rational in his approach and does extensive research before testing anything. I theorized that if it did not kill the fish then it should be okay for humans. So I have used both the Kordon's MB and the one that is supposedly better. I have been using it on and off for several years now and did not notice any difference, but I can only speak for myself and not for how it might or might not work on others

I would, however, urge you to do your due diligence as what is good for the goose might not be good for the gander. And as they say, we provide general information and the rest is up to the individual.

The following links can provide some info on the topic

https://www.news-medical.net/health/Pot ... glycolysis.

https://selfhacked.com/blog/methylene-b ... -enhancer/


https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25079810/

https://biohacked.com/methylene-blue/


https://www.cosmeticsdesign.com/Article ... e-blue-dye
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SOL wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 8:56 am There are other supplements I take; I just listed the main ones. I do take k2, aspirin in powder form, extra b3, Rhodiola, L-theanine, glycine, magnesium, carnosine, Betaine, Alpha lipoic acid, etc., but I oscillate on and of them as the need arises. I also consume a lot of refined sea salt as the so-called natural ones are polluted with mercury and other heavy metals and all you really is pure salt (NACL)for the sodium and to a lesser degree the chloride. I also consume lots of coffee, dark chocolate. I tend not to mix too many foods together in a given day.

As for my lower intake of Vit E, i consume a lot of coconut oil so it lowers the need for vit E and I eat no products that have wheat in them at all. Been wheat free for over 7 years. That means no pizza, pasta, bread, biscuits, cakes, etc. I also don't eat too many nuts and seeds due to the lectins, with the exception being Walnuts and some almonds. But to make for this as I said I drink a lot of coffee, eat lots of chocolates that don't have lecithin in them, lots of ice cream where the ingredients are milk, cream, sugar and some harmless flavouring, or real fruit and so forth.
Sol, I was looking at an ad for Coffee on Facebook. It said that most coffee is very processed and has a lot of bad stuff in it. Of course they were selling the "good" stuff. :) What coffee do you recommend that doesn't have all the junk in it? What do you drink?
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