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MarkD wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:42 pm And I will end with this note. My wife did some research months ago re: "asymptomatic". It is being misused by Fauci and the media. Her finding is the term is only applicable to bacterial infections.

Covid-19 is a virus.
Not true. This is the kind of stuff that helps in propagation of conspiracy theories. I encourage you to look up or check with anyone who has HSV-1 or HSV-2, commonly known as cold sores or Herpes.

It has been disappointing lately to see some really smart folk on TI peddling borderline Q-anon stuff here.
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I prefer Sol’s approach in dealing with COVID 19 he looks for evidence and psychological factors to back up many of his claims. For example in a recent update he stated that there was some correlation between Vit D and Covid and that appears to be true. And like him I don't place too much faith in Main Stream media

So lets look at some of the supplements he mentioned

VIt D


Participants were COVID-19 patients of age group 30–60 years admitted during the study period of 6 weeks. Study included either asymptomatic COVID-19 patients (Group A) or severely ill patients requiring ICU admission (Group B). Serum concentration of 25 (OH)D, were measured along with serum IL-6; TNFα and serum ferritin. Standard statistical analysis was performed to analyze the differences. Current Study enrolled 154 patients, 91 in Group A and 63 patients in Group B. The mean level of vitamin D (in ng/mL) was 27.89 ± 6.21 in Group A and 14.35 ± 5.79 in Group B, the difference was highly significant. The prevalence of vitamin D deficiency was 32.96% and 96.82% respectively in Group A and Group B. Out of total 154 patients, 90 patients were found to be deficient in vitamin D (Group A: 29; Group B: 61). Serum level of inflammatory markers was found to be higher in vitamin D deficient COVID-19 patients viz. IL-6 level (in pg/mL) 19.34 ± 6.17 vs 12.18 ± 4.29; Serum ferritin 319.17 ± 38.21 ng/mL vs 186.83 ± 20.18 ng/mL; TNFα level (in pg/mL) 13.26 ± 5.64 vs 11.87 ± 3.15.

The fatality rate was high in vitamin D deficient (21% vs 3.1%). Vitamin D level is markedly low in severe COVID-19 patients. Inflammatory response is high in vitamin D deficient COVID-19 patients. This all translates into increased mortality in vitamin D deficient COVID-19 patients. As per the flexible approach in the current COVID-19 pandemic authors recommend mass administration of vitamin D supplements to population at risk for COVID-19.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-77093-z


Low levels of vitamin D are also associated with an increase in inflammatory cytokines.

A study of healthy women in the USA found a significant inverse relationship between the serum levels of 25(OH)D and TNF-alpha.8 In another report, the levels of IL6 were found to be increased in those who were vitamin D deficient. In a wide variety of animal studies and in vitro cell models, vitamin D3 has been demonstrated to downregulate the production of inflammatory cytokines, such as TNF-alpha and IL6, while increasing inhibitory cytokines.9 These studies raise the possibility that adequate levels of vitamin D may reduce the incidence of cytokine storm, which can occur in COVID-19.

Thrombotic complications are common in COVID-19 patients.10 Of those with severe disease, over half have been found to have elevated D-dimer levels. Interestingly, vitamin D is also involved in the regulation of thrombotic pathways, and vitamin D deficiency is associated with an increase in thrombotic episodes.11 Vitamin D deficiency has also been found to occur more frequently in patients with obesity and diabetes. These conditions are reported to carry a higher mortality in COVID-19. An increased risk of death with COVID-19 is also observed in black, Asian and minority ethnic (BAME) groups. As melanin reduces the production of vitamin D sociated with exposure to the ultraviolet radiation in sunlight, this may help to explain the observed frequent occurrence of vitamin D deficiency in BAME groups.

One recurring question regarding COVID-19 is whether, once a patient has had the infection, they are unlikely to be re-infected at a later date. The answer to that question is still unknown and depends to some extent on the production, longevity and efficacy of the specific antibodies. However, in the case of influenza A virus (IAV), exposure to the virus results in the production of memory regulatory T cells (mTregs), which persist in the host.12 In mice exposed to influenza A infection, the infusion of mTregs into their tail vein significantly reduces weight loss and lung pathology (particularly the inflammatory infiltrate), relative to the infusion of Tregs that have not previously been exposed to the virus. This study illustrates the potential efficacy of Tregs in combatting viral infection. Given that women have higher levels of Treg cells than men,13 the observation might provide one reason why women have a lower mortality when infected by COVID-19. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7385774/

I think when it comes to dealing with any topic its best to take the observer perspective minus the emotion factor as it helps one focus on the facts and present the information in manner that most individuals find palatable, even the ones that might disagree with your findings.


Zinc



In this perspective, we reviewed the most important literature on the role of zinc homeostasis during viral infections, focusing on the potential benefits of zinc supplementation to prevent and treat SARS-CoV2 infections. Although data specifically on SARS-CoV2 are unfortunately still pending and randomized controlled studies have not been conducted, the enumerated evidence from the literature strongly suggests great benefits of zinc supplementation. Zinc supplementation improves the mucociliary clearance, strengthens the integrity of the epithelium, decreases viral replication, preserves antiviral immunity, attenuates the risk of hyper-inflammation, supports anti-oxidative effects and thus reduces lung damage and minimized secondary infections. Especially older subjects, patients with chronic diseases and most of the remaining COVID-19 risk groups would most likely benefit. Although studies are needed testing the effect of zinc as therapeutic option for established disease, preventive supplementation of subjects from risk groups should begin now, as zinc is a cost-efficient, globally available and simple to use option with little to no side effects. The first clinical trials on zinc supplementation alone and in combination with other drugs such as chloroquine have been registered (124, 160–162). Thus, first results and treatment regimens regarding zinc supplementation for COVID-19 risk groups and patients can be anticipated soon.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7365891/


Lots of data on how vitamins in general could prove to be useful in the battle against COVID

In the absence of a vaccine, the world is eagerly awaiting a panacea of treatment options for COVID-19. In this article, we critically appraised the potential immunomodulatory, antioxidant, and antimicrobial roles of vitamins A to E. Although there is currently no evidence from completed randomized controlled trials to conclusively and specifically demonstrate a role for vitamin supplementation in the fight against COVID-19, there is strong scientific evidence, based on studies of vitamin physiology, pharmacology, and their role in clinical studies of infection and ARDS to indicate a role for vitamins in the battle against this global pandemic. In particular, disease models of a lower vitamin A concentration and increasing host susceptibility to influenza and SARS-CoV have prompted investigation into the relationship between oral supplementation with vitamin A and COVID/COVID-like viruses. Furthermore, computational screening tools is a novel approach revealing promise for targeted drug testing of B vitamins, such as folate and B12, and supplementation if warranted. Vitamin C, owing to its potential role in attenuating upper respiratory tract infections, its antioxidant properties, and use as a high-dose intravenous therapy in ARDS and sepsis, may prove beneficial in COVID-19. The RCTs currently underway might indeed demonstrate a role for this vitamin in the intensive care setting. The Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care (FLCCC) Working Group released the MATH+ protocol in April 2020 and included vitamin C within its multimodal therapeutic strategy. The protocol consists of intravenous methylprednisolone, high-dose intravenous ascorbic acid, full-dose low-molecular-weight heparin and optional treatment components (including thiamine, zinc, and vitamin D) [220]. This is an early intervention protocol directed at suppressing hyperinflammation seen in COVID-19. Anecdotal experience with this regime has shown that early provision (within 6 h of admission) of MATH+ has reduced the need for mechanical ventilation and improved mortality rates within North America and China. The FLCCC working group are reporting 2 deaths in 100 patients treated with the MATH+ protocol; however, they did not compare their results to a control group. These findings are striking, but larger series and tightly defined indications will be required before widespread adoption of this treatment can be advocated. The vitamin receiving the most publicity at present is vitamin D in light of the association between disease severity and populations at risk of vitamin D deficiency, the elderly and black, Asian, and minority ethnic (BAME) populations [221]. There is certainly emerging and existing evidence to postulate a mechanism through which this vitamin might play an essential role in the fight against COVID-19, including its association with the pulmonary renin-angiotensin system. The therapeutic potential of vitamin D has already captured the attention of the scientific and medical communities as evidenced through a number of emerging clinical trials and journal articles. The interest has even percolated through to government [222], with the United Kingdom now advocating the supplementation of vitamin D for individuals in minority ethnic groups, over 65s, and those confined to life indoors [223,224,225,226]. However, UK Biobank analyses of blood calcifediol concentration and COVID-19 risk contradicts existing data and government advice. Despite the calcifediol concentration being lower in BAMEs, the study failed to demonstrate an association between calcifediol and COVID-19 infection after adjusting for potential confounders [227].

It would be unjustified to claim that vitamins are the answer to the coronavirus pandemic, but it would be fair to say that there is emerging evidence that they may play a role in either preventative measures or supportive therapy in established respiratory infections and intensive care settings. The physiology, pharmacology, and basic science behind vitamins A to E does allude to potential benefits that warrant further investigation and completion of the clinical trials, even if this translates to a need for diligent deficiency correction rather than routine mass supplementation.

The current and emerging guidance to supplement at-risk populations with vitamin D is justified given the as of yet unexplained predisposition for the elderly and BAME communities to have the most severe outcomes, potentiated by the fact that an increasing number of individuals will be confined to a life indoors during the lockdown period of the COVID-19 pandemic. Caution must, however, be exercised when recommending vitamin supplementation on a larger scale: The effects of hypervitaminosis can be severe, particularly the fat-soluble vitamins A, D, and E. Of note, hypervitaminosis is almost exclusively a product of ingesting an excess of vitamin supplements, rather than a product of vitamins acquired through normal dietary and physiological means.

The value of maintaining a diet containing a balance of vitamins seems prudent and applicable to the general population during these unprecedented times. We hope in the near future that well-designed clinical trials provide the evidence needed to determine whether the clinical value of vitamins matches the promise of their antioxidative, antimicrobial, and immunomodulatory properties.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7551685/

Methylene Blue

Since the seventies, when I started my intensive care and cardiac surgery duties, I continue with total non-conformity in the face of death, especially when significant battles are lost, for example, against septic shock in young women with gynecological infections, as well as patients who die from anaphylactic shock. Even with the constant and growing commitment to saving lives, like those of the young people mentioned above, we continue to lose the battle for infection/inflammation.

Right now, we are fighting against the COVID-19 pandemic, whose physiopathology surely includes inflammation and the NO-cGMP endothelium-dependent vasoplegic dysfunction. Some well-known observations should be mentioned over and over, based on what has been learned about blocking the NO-cGMP pathway in the treatment of vasoplegic endothelial dysfunction for synthesizing concepts:

The use of methylene blue (MB) does not cause endothelial dysfunction.

The MB effect appears in cases without positive NO regulation.

MB itself is not a vasoconstrictor. By blocking the cGMP pathway, it releases the cAMP pathway, facilitating the vasoconstrictor effect of epinephrine through this “crosstalk” mechanism.

The most used dosage is 2 mg/kg in IV bolus, followed by the same continuous hourly infusion. The plasma concentration declines sharply in the first 40 minutes.

MB has an antioxidant effect.

Based on these concepts, we keep saving lives, and with the certainty that the NO-cGMP pathway blocking by MB has still underestimated at least for more than 100 years. However, many health professionals named MB as a “rescue magic bullet.”

I saw COVID-19 inside this scenario and, last March, I wrote a letter to the Lancet’s Editor-in-Chief entitled “SHOULD METHYLENE BLUE CONSIDERED AS ‘RESCUE MAGIC BULLET’ AGAINST THE NEW CORONAVIRUS?”

The MB/light-based method has been used routinely in Europe for about 17 to 18 years. Plasma units from blood donations are illuminated with visible light in the presence of MB. The MB/light-treated generates singlet oxygen, which leads to the destruction of viral nucleic acids. Emerging groups include severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus (SARS-CoV), Crimean-Congo hemorrhagic fever virus (CCHFV) and Nipah virus (NiV), which have been identified by the World Health Organization (WHO) as major infectious threats with the potential to cause a global pandemic[1-3]. Paul Ehrlich, obsessed with structural organic chemistry and dyes, elaborated his theory regarding the discovery of a “magic bullet”. Based on all of his scientific discoveries, he won the Nobel Prize in 1908, with an emphasis on the treatment of malaria with MB. Should MB, a precursor to hydroxychloroquine, be a “rescue magic bullet” against the new coronavirus? If someone chooses to test the idea, I suggest, as a therapeutic test, an initial IV bolus of 1 mg/ kg. In our experience in the treatment of vasoplegic syndrome, the highest dose is 7 mg/kg in continuous IV infusion[4].

The Lancet Global Health, on this occasion, decided not to publish the letter because they believe “the message would be better suited elsewhere”. I agreed with the decision and, during my COVID-19 quarantine, I kept my routine Google consulting “methylene blue and COVID-19”. Suddenly… an explosion of almost three million papers (Figure 1). viewtopic.php?f=5&p=935#p935
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Re: Trump has COVID and?

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-we all have to decide what to believe, based on our own research - in whatever form that may take - whether that is listening to certain "experts," mainstream media, alternative independent press, etc.

-I prefer reading original studies when possible, even though every study has different strengths and weaknesses, and despite the fact that even mainstream medical/scientific journals are often subject to bias and the influence of political pressure;

-I have found it challenging to discuss anything cv19-related with friends and family who have not also read some of the key studies related to cv19, whether the topic involves the true case fatality rate, asymptomatic spread, vaccines, etc.; for the most part, nowadays, unless I am asked directly about cv19 in my personal life, I generally don't provide a detailed answer; the whole "Plato's Allegory of the Cave" thing;

-I do like the following site, as a starting point: https://swprs.org/facts-about-covid-19/

-It updates once every month or two with summaries, and you can click on the highlighted phrases to read and analyze the original studies upon which the summaries are based, and decide for yourself if the conclusions are justified;

-to my knowledge the site has no significant corporate sponsors, and FWIW, Assange previously endorsed the site;
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Re: Trump has COVID and?

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gnosis12 wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 5:01 am @duggils

I prefer Sol’s approach ...
@gnosis12,
I was referring to
"re: "asymptomatic". It is being misused by Fauci and the media. Her finding is the term is only applicable to bacterial infections."

This is not accurate and very easy to spread because it's a simple one line statement. Imagine believing that asymptomatic transmission can only happen with bacterial infections.

I agree that most people can benefit from supplements because of SAD diet but a vast majority of supplements you find in the market are synthetic and are not GMP compliant so one has to be careful with what they are putting in their body.
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Eh, had trouble finding that _Nature_ study on asymptomatic spread of cv19 using Google search.

Duckduckgo did the trick, here is the full study:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-19802-w


Abstract excerpt:

Here, we describe a city-wide SARS-CoV-2 nucleic acid screening programme between May 14 and June 1, 2020 in Wuhan. All city residents aged six years or older were eligible and 9,899,828 (92.9%) participated. No new symptomatic cases and 300 asymptomatic cases (detection rate 0.303/10,000, 95% CI 0.270–0.339/10,000) were identified. There were no positive tests amongst 1,174 close contacts of asymptomatic cases.

Prolly safe to visit Grandma in the nursing home, methinks.
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more data on Asymptomatic vs Sympotmatic transmission

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Unusually in disease management, a positive test result is the sole criterion for a covid-19 case. Normally, a test is a support for clinical diagnosis, not a substitute.
This lack of clinical oversight means we know very little about the proportions of people with positive results who are truly asymptomatic throughout the course of their infection and the proportions who are paucisymptomatic (subclinical), presymptomatic (go on to develop symptoms later), or post-infection (with viral RNA fragments still detectable from an earlier infection).

Earlier estimates that 80% of infections are asymptomatic were too high and have since been revised down to between 17% and 20% of people with infections.12 Studies estimating this proportion are limited by heterogeneity in case definitions, incomplete symptom assessment, and inadequate retrospective and prospective follow-up of symptoms, however.3 Around 49% of people initially defined as asymptomatic go on to develop symptoms.45

It’s also unclear to what extent people with no symptoms transmit SARS-CoV-2. The only test for live virus is viral culture. PCR and lateral flow tests do not distinguish live virus. No test of infection or infectiousness is currently available for routine use.678 As things stand, a person who tests positive with any kind of test may or may not have an active infection with live virus, and may or may not be infectious.9

The relations between viral load, viral shedding, infection, infectiousness, and duration of infectiousness are not well understood. In a recent systematic review, no study was able to culture live virus from symptomatic participants after the ninth day of illness, despite persistently high viral loads in quantitative PCR diagnostic tests. However, cycle threshold (Ct) values from PCR tests are not direct measures of viral load and are subject to error.10

While viral load seems to be similar in people with and without symptoms, the presence of RNA does not necessarily represent transmissible live virus. The duration of viral RNA shedding (interval between first and last positive PCR result for any sample) is shorter in people who remain asymptomatic, so they are probably less infectious than people who develop symptoms 11
https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4851
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PCR Test Might be quite Inaccurate

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The Inventor of the PCR test seems to think it should not be used as a diagnostic tool. Apparently, it was designed for HIV. Maybe some health pro's can chime in and help us no pros determine of the data provided below is valid or not.


It has been described many ways: pandemic, plague, feardemic, panicdemic and scamdemic. After accumulating and evaluating nine months of data, perhaps the most accurate descriptor of the COVID-19 is scamdemic.

The lynchpin to the scamdemic is the wildly inaccurate and literally useless test being used by the corrupt Center for Disease Control (CDC) and World Health Organization (WHO) scientific “experts” to claim the shocking numbers of infected humans: the PCR test.

Created in 1985 to enhance AIDS research, the Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR) test won a Nobel Prize for its inventor Kary Mullis. He invented the PCR test as a tool for biomedical research and criminal forensics. PCR can be extremely deceptive in the diagnosis of infectious diseases, though. The inventor himself argued against using PCR as a diagnostic tool for infections.

“I’m skeptical that a PCR test is ever true. It’s a great scientific research tool. It’s a horrible tool for clinical medicine,” warns Dr. David Rasnick, biochemist and protease developer. A true rebel against Big Pharma and the CDC, Mullis insisted that it states on the box of every PCR test: “This is not a diagnostic tool

Mullis was heretic against corporate science and Big Pharma.

“Scientists are doing an awful lot of damage to the world in the name of helping it. I don’t mind attacking my own fraternity, because I am ashamed of it,” Mullis said at a press conference shortly before he died.

Chinese experts stated that if you’re testing asymptomatic people with PCR, up to 80% of positives could be false positives. But the numbers aren’t just skewed by false positives, they are also skewed by how many people are offered the test and what condition they are in. For example, during the first few weeks of the “pandemic,” tests were scarce. As they became more widely available, of course the number of infections accounted for increased as well, and false-positive results further increased those numbers


As former New York Times Reporter Alex Berenson (@AlexBereson) observed upon reading the results of the JAMA study: “In other words, 97 percent of these patients had no live virus in their bodies despite a positive PCR test — and they were 18 percent of ALL the people surveyed (though they were not a random sample — they had had the virus before).”

Vaccine iconoclast and truthteller Del Bigtree of TheHighwire.com observes that “at 33 cycles or amplifications, the PCR test is only 20 percent accurate or effective.”


The FDA recommends 40 cycles, rendering the PCR test basically useless because all tests show positive.


https://www.winterwatch.net/2020/11/wil ... scamdemic/
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Yodean wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:56 pm Eh, had trouble finding that _Nature_ study on asymptomatic spread of cv19 using Google search.

Duckduckgo did the trick, here is the full study:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-19802-w


Abstract excerpt:

Here, we describe a city-wide SARS-CoV-2 nucleic acid screening programme between May 14 and June 1, 2020 in Wuhan. All city residents aged six years or older were eligible and 9,899,828 (92.9%) participated. No new symptomatic cases and 300 asymptomatic cases (detection rate 0.303/10,000, 95% CI 0.270–0.339/10,000) were identified. There were no positive tests amongst 1,174 close contacts of asymptomatic cases.

Prolly safe to visit Grandma in the nursing home, methinks.
I have tried hard to keep silent to be a pure observer, but after hesitation, finally, I decided to say something, just to provide info to those who are really open-minded, not to argue with anyone.

Most recent information regarding asymptomatic case spreading in China: https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202101/ ... a318a.html

"Northeast China's Jilin province reported 10 new locally transmitted confirmed cases of COVID-19 and 63 asymptomatic carriers on Saturday, the province's health commission said on Sunday.

Six of the confirmed cases were reported as asymptomatic carriers previously, including a 45-year-old male patient feared behind a potential super-spreading event in the province.

Epidemiological investigations showed that nearly 100 cases in the cities of Tonghua and Gongzhuling were in ways connected to the 45-year-old salesman reported as asymptomatic carrier on Wednesday. "
Afterwards, this man and some of the asymptomatic cases spreaded from him in his health training events became confirmed cases.

This man lectures elders and touts useless nourishment to elders.
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NoLimit201 wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:53 am
I have tried hard to keep silent to be a pure observer, but after hesitation, finally, I decided to say something, just to provide info to those who are really open-minded, not to argue with anyone.
Being an observer does not mean remaining silent. Obviously one has to observe the situation from a non-emotional viewpoint. An observers response is also usually void of emotion. So please feel free to comment. I don't agree with everything posted in these forums, but at the same time, I don't let any of the data upset me. I view it as data that I can choose to process, ignore or put aside for future consideration.

However, I think what some are asking is if these tests are valid. if the tests are not valid (and I am not saying they are not) than the super spreader status could be faulty if the tets are yielding false positives. Individuals in the medical field would be best suited to answer this question.

This is a controversial topic and the fact that so many individuals have posted varying opinions without losing their cool speaks volumes about the mindset of our forum members
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Article from NY Times suggets PCR test maybe unreliable

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This article from the NY times seems to suggest that the results from the PCR test might not be valid because, after a certain number of amplifications the results are suspect. And the interesting part is that in most instances the number of amplifications are not listed.

The PCR test amplifies genetic matter from the virus in cycles; the fewer cycles required, the greater the amount of virus, or viral load, in the sample. The greater the viral load, the more likely the patient is to be contagious.

This number of amplification cycles needed to find the virus, called the cycle threshold, is never included in the results sent to doctors and coronavirus patients, although it could tell them how infectious the patients are.

In three sets of testing data that include cycle thresholds, compiled by officials in Massachusetts, New York and Nevada, up to 90 percent of people testing positive carried barely any virus, a review by The Times found.

On Thursday, the United States recorded 45,604 new coronavirus cases, according to a database maintained by The Times. If the rates of contagiousness in Massachusetts and New York were to apply nationwide, then perhaps only 4,500 of those people may actually need to isolate and submit to contact tracing.

One solution would be to adjust the cycle threshold used now to decide that a patient is infected. Most tests set the limit at 40, a few at 37. This means that you are positive for the coronavirus if the test process required up to 40 cycles, or 37, to detect the virus.


Tests with thresholds so high may detect not just live virus but also genetic fragments, leftovers from infection that pose no particular risk — akin to finding a hair in a room long after a person has left, Dr. Mina said.

Any test with a cycle threshold above 35 is too sensitive, agreed Juliet Morrison, a virologist at the University of California, Riverside. “I’m shocked that people would think that 40 could represent a positive,” she said.

“It’s just kind of mind-blowing to me that people are not recording the C.T. values from all these tests, that they’re just returning a positive or a negative,” one virologist said.Credit...Erin Schaff/The New York Time

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Indeed, there are many problems with the interpretation of the PCR tests, as many on this forum have stated.

This interview with two physicians is quite good and provides information that those with and without medical backgrounds may readily understand:

https://theconsciousresistance.com/has- ... mas-cowan/
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smoking and covid

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any truth to this?

A quarter of French adults smoke. Many people were surprised, therefore, when researchers reported late in April that only 5% of 482 covid-19 patients who came to the Pitié-Salpêtrière hospital in Paris between February 28th and April 9th were daily smokers. The ratios of smokers to non-smokers in earlier tallies at hospitals in America, China and elsewhere in France varied. But all revealed habitual smokers to be significantly underrepresented among those requiring hospital treatment for the illness.
https://www.economist.com/science-and-t ... h-covid-19


MORE evidence smokers are at less risk of Covid-19: Study of 90,000 infected patients in Mexico reveals adults addicted to cigarettes are 23% LESS likely to catch the virus

Smokers are less likely to be diagnosed with Covid-19 compared to those who have never touched a cigarette, another study has claimed.

An array of research carried out since the pandemic began has shown smokers are at lower risk of getting the coronavirus.

Now researchers in Mexico have added more weight to the evidence, which experts have called bizarre and said warrants further investigation.

Scientists analysed data from almost 90,000 patients and found smokers were 23 per cent less likely than non-smokers to get diagnosed with Covid-19.

And the team also found smokers who did get infected were no more likely to need intensive care, be hooked up to a ventilator or die.

The findings support the theory that smokers are somehow protected from Covid-19, with data from Britain, the US, China and Italy all suggesting the same.

Scientists are starting to believe nicotine may be able to block the coronavirus from entering cells, preventing the infection in the first place.

Others say nicotine may control the immune system, stopping it from dangerously over-reacting to infection - a phenomenon found to be killing many Covid-19 patients.

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I will let the experts in the medical arena comment on the smoking issue, but lighting up a blunt may be helpful as per these studies :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

In a study conducted by researchers at Pathway Research Inc., the University of Calgary, and the University of Lethbridge, scientists used artificial human skin, technically a “well-established full-thickness human 3D skin artificial EpiDermFTTM tissue model.” The skin tissue model was exposed to UV rays to cause “induced inflammation.” The model was then treated with seven different cannabis strains to see the efficacy in reducing inflammation.

The study found cannabis may “tame” or reduce the severity of COVID-19. One of the main causes of severe COVID-19 that proceeds acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS) is an influx of “pro-inflammatory cytokines,” which is also known as the “cytokine storm.” “Out of all cytokines, TNFα and IL-6 play crucial roles in cytokine storm pathogenesis and are likely responsible for the escalation in disease severity,” the study says. The treatment addition of cannabis extracts helps “curb inflammation and prevent fibrosis, and lead to disease remission.”

One of the studies’ main researchers, University of Lethbridge’s Department of Biological Sciences’ Dr. Igor Kovalchuk, told me that his team has studied the anti-inflammatory potential of cannabis for years. Were they surprised by the findings? “Not at all,” says Kovalchuk. “Before COVID, we have studied the anti-inflammatory effect of over 100 cultivars (preselected from nearly 800), and identified couple dozen with strong potential, and even filed several patents on them for use with RA, MS, intestinal, and skin inflammation, and oral inflammation.”
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Reducing severity and impact
In analyses of COVID-19 there has been a significant degree of interest in the phenomenon of cytokine storm syndrome, wherein too many cytokine proteins are released in the body: these proteins can attack the lungs and overwhelm the immune system with hyperinflammation. Early evidence has tentatively indicated that CBD and THC may be beneficial in the treatment of patients whose bodies’ inflammatory response has become pathogenic.

Much research in this field has focused on the ability of cannabinoids and terpenes to lower the immune system’s response without suppressing it. Early findings in a study currently being conducted by terpene manufacturer Eybna and cannabis research and development firm CannaSoul Analytics, both from Israel, appear to indicate that the combination of terpenes and cannabinoids used is up to two times more effective than the corticosteroid dexamethasone, when used to reduce inflammation from COVID-19. The study has not yet been peer reviewed.

https://www.healtheuropa.eu/medicinal-c ... 19/103093/
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Re: Insights into the COVID Pandemic

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Weed is certainly a better option for stress than other drugs

However, it’s a quick fix and not a long term fix. Any attachment to anything leads to suffering in the long run

I’d say, running, walking, yoga, meditation for stress.
Weight lifting if you want to build the body and feel strong

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Re: Insights into the COVID Pandemic

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AstuteShift wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:38 pm However, it’s a quick fix and not a long term fix. Any attachment to anything leads to suffering in the long run

I’d say, running, walking, yoga, meditation for stress.
Weight lifting if you want to build the body and feel strong
Agreed. One man's poison is another man's cure.

Another emerging potential benefit of CBD:

https://youtu.be/QoXF2kfIOFM


https://www.naturalblaze.com/2021/01/re ... ecule.html

So, if you, like any self-respecting citizen, are running around violating lockdown decrees and having lots of great unprotected sex, make sure you take some CBD when you get home.

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