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bpcw wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:43 pm Could you define a bit more what you believe the difference between religiosity and spirituality is, I would be most interested!
Well, this guy does a good job of explaining how spirituality holds a different meaning for everyone.

spirituality is the measure of how willing we are to allow Grace—some power greater than ourselves—to enter our lives and guide us along our way. But that's just me. Get a room full of a thousand people and ask each one of them what spirituality means to him or her and the definition will start to get blurry. It isn't the same thing as asking someone to define a word like car or sun. Any consensus you might get will be vague, at best. And with vagueness comes confusion

So many people today are throwing around words and phrases such as spirituality, intention, highest potential, higher self, purpose, attraction, vibration. The list goes on and on. We can form pretty sentences like, "My intention is to raise my vibration to the level of my highest self so I can reach the goal of my highest potential and FINALLY live my purpose and attract an amazing life!" It sounds good, doesn't it? But what does it mean? Did the person who said this know what he or she was talking about? To me, undefined spiritual lingo is poetry, at best—manipulation and control, at worst.

https://www.oprah.com/inspiration/meani ... irituality

I will start off by saying what it does not mean to me

That I have to accept a higher power into my life or think that a higher power wants to subjugate me. If there is a higher power, the last thing it would want to do is try to control rats.
I have no fixed religious belief, so that definition does not apply either
I don't think spirituality has anything to do with raising your vibrational quotient

I think a better term would be to say I am a universal or I embrace the concept of universality
I do believe religious books and ancient texts (even religions that are pushed into the paganism category) contain valuable data. However, once they start talking about obeying and bowing down and praying my ears to turn deaf and I disregard anything related to that topic.

I believe we live in cycles akin to the seasons of the year, markets, cycles of joy, pain and suffering. Each cycle has something to offer and if we can go through those cycles and understand the value behind each cycle we can advance. We need to pass the tests each of these cycles offer otherwise it's groundhogs day forever.

The concept of heaven and hell is too simplistic for me. It's all or nothing and we know that life is not like that at all. You have many shades in between and it seems hardly likely that a fool that prays every day and leads a so-called good life where he denies himself from all the pleasures of life is going to heaven. And in 90% of the case, this is done out of fear. I think we are here to experience all aspects of life that don't entail harming another and that means most concepts of morality and happiness are pure rubbish.

Will continue later, but it seems the more and more I look around, the more and more I see that I should not use the label spiritualism and that universal which I have used in the past is a better label.

Alternatively, I could have had just too much MB and Shilajit (as Yodean would put it) and I have gone totally bonkers. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Sol, all good, just interested in your thoughts/beliefs as I am with other's.

Was interested in how you defined religiosity as opposed to spirituality as amongst Christians, one might say, "I believe in God, Jesus is the son of God, in praying and having a personal relationship with God/Jesus but I'm not religious", you however, might respond "that is religious".

Being religious can mean having a lot of rituals and rules attached to one's beliefs, for example, Catholics genuflecting (oooh what a lovely word), rosary beeds, the mass, holy days of obligation etc. as opposed to just simple relationship with God based on love from the heart.

I don't go to a church building to a service and don't believe it's a requirement from God, I don't believe there are rules and rituals that I must follow for God to be pleased with me, I just believe he wants my heart, a loving relationship that naturally extends to others, especially those in need, because that's the heart of God. That he wants the best for me and so to listen to him means he can guide me. There is the salvation issue but perhaps that's for another day. Whether this makes me religious or not, or just spiritual in the eyes of another, as they define it, doesn't really matter to me, just interested in how you perceived it and your belief system, it's good to engage without judgement sometimes!
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Speaking from limited personal direct experience, I have noticed over the decades that Christians who are really serious about the Jesus thing do not do particularly well in investing or trading the markets. At best, they do "okay" or are mediocre. Usually, they suck quite badly, but not literally. :lol:

Now, the evangelists that appear on television and promise salvation if some money is sent to them - these Jesus-lovers do extremely well financially, but I am talking about trading the markets, not saving souls on television.

My working theory is the more one believes in the mainstream Jesus story, the more one _tends_ to believe that somehow, money is bad or evil, i.e. Lightbringer's junk. Which may very well be true - perhaps subject of another discussion.

Even if these individuals don't consciously think having a lot of money requires Lightbringer's assistance, the effect is there.

The Story of Jesus seems to create subconscious impediments in one's ability to attract monetary wealth effortlessly.

On the other hand, the Vatican and the top rung of the Roman Catholic Church are amazing investors - like, Rothschild-level. Unbeatable, really. :lol:


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Yodean wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 6:12 pm Speaking from limited personal direct experience, I have noticed over the decades that Christians who are really serious about the Jesus thing do not do particularly well in investing or trading the markets. At best, they do "okay" or are mediocre. Usually, they suck quite badly, but not literally. :lol:

Now, the evangelists that appear on television and promise salvation if some money is sent to them - these Jesus-lovers do extremely well financially, but I am talking about trading the markets, not saving souls on television.

My working theory is the more one believes in the mainstream Jesus story, the more one _tends_ to believe that somehow, money is bad or evil, i.e. Lightbringer's junk. Which may very well be true - perhaps subject of another discussion.

Even if these individuals don't consciously think having a lot of money requires Lightbringer's assistance, the effect is there.

The Story of Jesus seems to create subconscious impediments in one's ability to attract monetary wealth effortlessly.

On the other hand, the Vatican and the top rung of the Roman Catholic Church are amazing investors - like, Rothschild-level. Unbeatable, really. :lol:

As with anything good, it can be manipulated and abused to benefit opportunists and the damn right evil, they were around in Jesus's day, he called the pharisees a synagogue of Satan! Is the law wrong because a policeman breaks it?

Most Christians would be part of what we refer to as the masses who are bad at investing, might be the same ratio as the rest of the populace, can't say but I know of wealthy Christians who have earned it genuinely. The telly evangelists and prosperity Gospel lot are abuser's of the Gospel and will pay a high price, they are the lowest of the low! Don't get me started, arrrgggg ! :D
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In the markets you have to only rely on yourself

The amount of fraud, deception and manipulation tactics out runs extremely deep and for most normal people they will get disgusted and never invest or attempt

For me, I enjoy learning the dark tactics they use and then using it for my gain in trades

For example, a lot of YouTubers get shilled and bought by gold miner companies to promote hyper inflation nonsense

Another is the crypto nonsense by Cathy Woods and her staff is nothing but retards with no experience. Cathy will definitely get decimated in the next correction

Another is financial freedom YouTubers with Robert Kiosaki, Tony Robbin etc. All retards in terms of managing money

Social media is the perfect weapon to seduce weaklings and destroy their wealth.

Imagine VR/AR tech in real life terms, it will go to a new level
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AstuteShift wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:18 pm For me, I enjoy learning the dark tactics they use and then using it for my gain in trades
@YY: hey, I mistakenly assumed you wanted to be an "Angel Player." To me, you sound more like a Grey WISC - use both Light and Dark to your advantage. :mrgreen:
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bpcw wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 7:44 pm
As with anything good, it can be manipulated and abused to benefit opportunists and the damn right evil, they were around in Jesus's day, he called the pharisees a synagogue of Satan! Is the law wrong because a policeman breaks it?

Most Christians would be part of what we refer to as the masses who are bad at investing, might be the same ratio as the rest of the populace, can't say but I know of wealthy Christians who have earned it genuinely. The telly evangelists and prosperity Gospel lot are abuser's of the Gospel and will pay a high price, they are the lowest of the low! Don't get me started, arrrgggg ! :D
You and Sister Josephine Rooney (what a dear lady she was) are about the only two Christians I could have talked to without getting into a hissy fit. She was a Catholic Nun and lived up to the ripe age of 95, but boy was she cognizant of everything that went on and she could give some witty responses. Not to mention she baked one mean Irish Soda bread and rocked at making cuppa of Earl Grey. It was one of the few times I would break my rule and consume some wheat with thick slabs of butter and Jam.

she never tried to push me to embrace the church again. She would always say Charlie Brown you are a good man and I pray for your soul. My point is that any person with the ability to form critical thought feels no compulsion in pushing a concept they are totally confident in. This is why after our brief debate on religion I stepped down not because of fear, etc, etc but because I knew I had nothing to prove to you and you had nothing to prove to me. And I had no intention or desire of trying to change how you think. So the smartest option would be to simply say he we agree to disagree and move onto the next succulent topic like punching someone in the face that pisses us of metaphorically speaking :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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SOL wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 6:20 am
bpcw wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 7:44 pm
As with anything good, it can be manipulated and abused to benefit opportunists and the damn right evil, they were around in Jesus's day, he called the pharisees a synagogue of Satan! Is the law wrong because a policeman breaks it?

Most Christians would be part of what we refer to as the masses who are bad at investing, might be the same ratio as the rest of the populace, can't say but I know of wealthy Christians who have earned it genuinely. The telly evangelists and prosperity Gospel lot are abuser's of the Gospel and will pay a high price, they are the lowest of the low! Don't get me started, arrrgggg ! :D
You and Sister Josephine Rooney (what a dear lady she was) are about the only two Christians I could have talked to without getting into a hissy fit. She was a Catholic Nun and lived up to the ripe age of 95, but boy was she cognizant of everything that went on and she could give some witty responses. Not to mention she baked one mean Irish Soda bread and rocked at making cuppa of Earl Grey. It was one of the few times I would break my rule and consume some wheat with thick slabs of butter and Jam.

she never tried to push me to embrace the church again. She would always say Charlie Brown you are a good man and I pray for your soul. My point is that any person with the ability to form critical thought feels no compulsion in pushing a concept they are totally confident in. This is why after our brief debate on religion I stepped down not because of fear, etc, etc but because I knew I had nothing to prove to you and you had nothing to prove to me. And I had no intention or desire of trying to change how you think. So the smartest option would be to simply say he we agree to disagree and move onto the next succulent topic like punching someone in the face that pisses us of metaphorically speaking :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
All I can say is Amen, and she sounds like a fine lady this nun! :D
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https://youtu.be/ZybaBFjNEjQ

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Similar story to Sol, I underwent 12 years of Parochial indoctrination. There was a nun who was very open minded. ATM I am recovering from a but so the name evades me.

Three of my buddies and I had seventh hour study hall as seniors. Every single day, we would chat about anything, no holds barred. She was extremely genuine in her love of people. After fifteen minutes, three of us seniors were released for the day. Radical idea, graduation credits in hand. Administration had no idea as athletes also were released just prior to our vacating the property.

During our discussions our other buddy Chipper would ask to be released to the boys room. He was a man of the bud. They never mentioned it while we were in h.s. but apparently, every day chip would fire one up and sis would let him have a few tokes before dragging him BACK TO STUDY HALL! He was never reported to the administration.

The rest of us did not know this until years later.
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Yodean wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 3:49 pm
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45 secs, the problem with the U.S., from a Cuban's perspective.
One of my star pupil's, I taught him all he knows! :mrgreen:
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bpcw wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 4:33 pm One of my star pupil's, I taught him all he knows! :mrgreen:
Indeed, Yoel is a wise man and a fearsome athlete.

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Yodean wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 5:59 pm
bpcw wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 4:33 pm One of my star pupil's, I taught him all he knows! :mrgreen:
Indeed, Yoel is a wise man and a fearsome athlete.


I'm making an official complaint Yodean, been singing that song for days now! :mrgreen:
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Yodean wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:51 pm
AstuteShift wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:18 pm For me, I enjoy learning the dark tactics they use and then using it for my gain in trades
@YY: hey, I mistakenly assumed you wanted to be an "Angel Player." To me, you sound more like a Grey WISC - use both Light and Dark to your advantage. :mrgreen:
Why not? :P

I love to study people, or at least the pathological ones who exploit. Unfortunately there is a ton out in the world, so learning these tactics will keep you out of harms way
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Reflections On The Existence Of God: A Series Of Essays

This is a book through a series of short  essays/chapters that challenges atheistic beliefs and puts forward the case that belief in God is far more rational.

It's an easy read and can be picked up and put down easily and read alongside other material as it's broken down into such small chapters.

He covers topics such as:
Morality
Love
Beauty
Science
Mathematics
Evolution

He uses a lot of examples of current and past atheists including those who have become Christians including C.S Lewis, Richard Dawkins, Einstein, Freud and many more.

If you're a Christian then it will be an encouragement and help in defending the faith as highly rational and if you're an atheist then it should be quite thought provoking and a challenge to your belief system if you're up for it.

Highly recommend it.
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