what if this time is actually different?

[hooligan]

devils advocate

yet a real concern:

despite sol's very cogent analysis on the velocity of money, etc, regarding inflation...

and the age old wisdom that markets climb a wall of worry and plunge down a cliff of joy,

to me our current time, for a host of mixed reasons, really does feel like a new historical horizon .....

for some reason it feels especially new, especially pregnant. like a gate

of course one might say: thats how it always feels.... dont be fooled

yet , intuitively perhaps its possible to distinguish btwn that common illusion and the real thing. idk. obviously hard.

will more participation in speculation by the masses cause MP to drive the markets differently?

are people more woke at large, less predictable? a new version of the mass mind?

are peoples beliefs manifesting more quickly and powerfully? will the illusions they believe in come true?

the same way that value investing and fundamental analysis lost their power in the past , i wonder if we're at another moment of evolution, where a new "derivative" will have to emerge to have an edge.

things feel more and more belief based
and beliefs are propogating very quickly
with a more woke character

[AstuteShift]

I think in general, people are getting more and more influenced into accepting slavery in a sense and they do not even know it

How come?

Due to the invention of social media, it’s like crack for the masses and it fulfills it’s job to dumb down the masses, get them in a reactionary state and convert them into animals. Have you noticed that more and more people can’t even read a book anymore?

Another is that the shadow players have effectively bam boozled the whole world with the COVID nonsense and each passing day the masses are accepting slavery whether it’s joining a worthless political tribe, economic slavery by going into more debt or thinking they have a choice when they have none

Another is how the masses are getting more and more addicted to getting more money, this is by design. The stock market is not for sheep and for the weak yet the masses think it’s a savings bank and expect high returns instantly, this is a recipe for financial ruin and many of them will end up in the poor house.

Another is the invention of YouTube. This has bred the next generation of scam artists, con men and a host of retards who think they can talk about a subject without actually having any experience. One example is Tony Robbins or Robert Kiosaki, The Godfather’s of frauds, Meet Kevin/Tom Nash are the next evolution of con men, yet the masses are fooled and don’t know better

The financial industry and Wallstreet also are in both sides of the trade. You have the media like Jim Cramer pumping bullshyt, embracing perma bulls while doing stock manipulation. These guys are scum but the alternative media is even worse.

Alternative media such as Peter Schiff, Rebal Capitalist and the gold bugs screaming to end the FED and buy gold. Golds returns are absolutely pathetic and led the masses to accept a false premise that gold is insurance. Gold is just a relic and there is no safety or guarantee in life. None

Now all the gold bugs are embracing bitcoin and crypto which is also another scam. I would not be surprised to see bitcoin go to zero one day, it breeds money laundering, gambling and a host of pathological behaviors for con men to easily promote to the masses.

90 percent will lose, there is no exception. 10 percent will survive and 2-3 percent of the 10 percent will dominate.

To me, this isn’t a gloom/doom post but rather a realistic sense of what’s going on.

Having been grown up in the 90s, with no internet, social media or smart phones, life was more simple in a sense.

[Yodean]

are people more woke at large, less predictable? a new version of the mass mind?

are peoples beliefs manifesting more quickly and powerfully? will the illusions they believe in come true?

the same way that value investing and fundamental analysis lost their power in the past , i wonder if we're at another moment of evolution, where a new "derivative" will have to emerge to have an edge.

with a more woke character

I may only opine from direct experience, but it depends on what one means by "woke."

From what I have seen, most people, particularly the Millennials and younger cohorts, think they're smarter, more "woke," than ever, but mostly, they tend to be weak and lazy intellectually, and also physically and emotionally, like little girls.

There seems to be this pervasive belief among that Herd that since they grew up with Skynet, they know more stuff, and hence are smarter than the older folks.

Well, they may know a bit more about Kim Kardashian's latest exploits, but that's about it. Really easy to sway this Herd through social media and mainstream narratives - their minds do not like ambiguity, struggling with nuance, considering different perspectives simultaneously, etc., since this requires honest effort, and taking a contrarian stance also means that at times, one will be "wrong" and "unpopular."

Much easier to quote someone famous when it comes to important issues, than read a challenging book, and try to dissect and critically examine the ideas within.

The narratives and concepts of value investing and fundamental analyses have their cycles, as well, and both are making a comeback at the current time. Most narratives go through cycles - for a while, it was all about exponential growth, momentum, and network effects when it came to equity markets, now it's more about safety, value, etc. These styles of investing will all go through cycles, and repeat. Some details will change, of course, but the basic script remains the same - history doesn't necessarily repeat, but it tends to rhyme.

[SOL]

This might sound unrelated but pay careful attention to the NWO Super Silent Trend. Something big is brewing and it will have bullish implications for the markets. Everyone assumes that good news outside of the markets is good news for the markets, it does not work like that

Secondly, the storyline never changes, what changes is the narrative used to create the desired effect. There is always some disaster brewing that will end the world- that is the theme. Now they use whatever is needed to trigger the result they want, and what do they want. They want to soar the seeds of doubt and fear to trigger a sell-off. Then they come in and buy and the rest is history. Did you notice how many people said it was different this time during the COVID crash? Indeed it was different, but the only thing different was the narrative used to create the desired effect.

[AstuteShift]

This might sound unrelated but pay careful attention to the NWO Super Silent Trend. Something big is brewing and it will have bullish implications for the markets. Everyone assumes that good news outside of the markets is good news for the markets, it does not work like that

Secondly, the storyline never changes, what changes is the narrative used to create the desired effect. There is always some disaster brewing that will end the world- that is the theme. Now they use whatever is needed to trigger the result they want, and what do they want. They want to soar the seeds of doubt and fear to trigger a sell-off. Then they come in and buy and the rest is history. Did you notice how many people said it was different this time during the COVID crash? Indeed it was different, but the only thing different was the narrative used to create the desired effect.

That Covid crash was a life generational opportunity, enormous gains and laughing at the fools who panic

Going to get some cigars and champagne for the 4th quarter, it’s going to be legendary

[Eric]

Secondly, the storyline never changes, what changes is the narrative used to create the desired effect. There is always some disaster brewing that will end the world- that is the theme. Now they use whatever is needed to trigger the result they want, and what do they want.

By nature every "disaster" must be turned up to 11. They can't re-rack the same level of disaster because it's already been lived through... Won't induce the needed fear if people look at the disaster and go "meh, lived through that half a dozen times already".

In 30 years you'll be sitting around with your buddies eating some delicious Soylent Green, sipping a fine glass of vaccine (neat because you're classy) and reminiscing about the simpler times when all you had to worry about was big tech fascism, a dementia riddled puppet installed in place of the rightful election winner, medical fascism, the NWO, and potential nuclear war... Man, those were the days, it was such a simpler time...

[hooligan]

are people more woke at large, less predictable? a new version of the mass mind?

are peoples beliefs manifesting more quickly and powerfully? will the illusions they believe in come true?

the same way that value investing and fundamental analysis lost their power in the past , i wonder if we're at another moment of evolution, where a new "derivative" will have to emerge to have an edge.

with a more woke character

I may only opine from direct experience, but it depends on what one means by "woke."

From what I have seen, most people, particularly the Millennials and younger cohorts, think they're smarter, more "woke," than ever, but mostly, they tend to be weak and lazy intellectually, and also physically and emotionally, like little girls.

There seems to be this pervasive belief among that Herd that since they grew up with Skynet, they know more stuff, and hence are smarter than the older folks.

Well, they may know a bit more about Kim Kardashian's latest exploits, but that's about it. Really easy to sway this Herd through social media and mainstream narratives - their minds do not like ambiguity, struggling with nuance, considering different perspectives simultaneously, etc., since this requires honest effort, and taking a contrarian stance also means that at times, one will be "wrong" and "unpopular."

Much easier to quote someone famous when it comes to important issues, than read a challenging book, and try to dissect and critically examine the ideas within.

The narratives and concepts of value investing and fundamental analyses have their cycles, as well, and both are making a comeback at the current time. Most narratives go through cycles - for a while, it was all about exponential growth, momentum, and network effects when it came to equity markets, now it's more about safety, value, etc. These styles of investing will all go through cycles, and repeat. Some details will change, of course, but the basic script remains the same - history doesn't necessarily repeat, but it tends to rhyme.

what i meant more by woke was many people, while not in a super analytical way, are waking up to the idea that "there is a game afoot" and that disasters come and go. are opportunities, etc. more and more people are naturally falling into this orientation, and are less triggered by fear.

[SOL]

what i meant more by woke was many people, while not in a super analytical way, are waking up to the idea that "there is a game afoot" and that disasters come and go. are opportunities, etc. more and more people are naturally falling into this orientation, and are less triggered by fear.

Sad to say it ain't ever going to happen. In fact, I would say that more people are triggered by fear. When SHTF this new class of classless warriors (otherwise known as Diaper dudes) want Demented Brandon, Twidle Dee Trudeau, Uncle Macron or dishevelled Boris to come to the rescue.

The only change is their perceptions of fear might have changed to a certain degree as they live in a gamified illusory world. So it might take time for the reality to trickle into their gamified version of life, but when it does they will panic like a herd of wilder beasts.

[hooligan]

Sad to say it ain't ever going to happen. In fact, I would say that more people are triggered by fear. When SHTF this new class of classless warriors (otherwise known as Diaper dudes) want Demented Brandon, Twidle Dee Trudeau, Uncle Macron or dishevelled Boris to come to the rescue.

The only change is their perceptions of fear might have changed to a certain degree as they live in a gamified illusory world. So it might take time for the reality to trickle into their gamified version of life, but when it does they will panic like a herd of wilder beasts.

to be fair I dont "tally the numbers" on How many people seem to be waking up this way...so maybe it's just my circles and the places i personally watch . . . .

but it is occurring there at least.

[hooligan]

i think what i'm concerned about is i sense there may be a collective desire to crash things in a way that's more radical. a "secret desire to see the world burn" that is pregnant in people more and more...who are tired of the "procession of events".

and if that is in people it may just occur. people may behaviorally align with it.

I feel like there is a mounting feeling that no one cares, everything is too complicated, and they'd rather a big dramatic reset than keep playing along.

but again, maybe its just the cultural corners that i personally watch.

[bpcw]

If you look at covid and the fact that just this morning I observe people going around in the fresh air with rags blocking their airwaves that do nothing to prevent infection, and the fact that omicron has proved to be mild for the majority and no worse than flu, then you can be pretty sure that people still fall for the same old fear narratives, and I agree with Sol that with the mass media ramping things up, social media and filtering of fake news, AKA the truth, means that it is getting easier to create fear! People are getting lazy with their brains, critical thinking is dying, and people are giving over their rational minds to an elite class who do not have their interests in mind but sure as hell make out they do, they are wolves in sheep's clothing.

The markets are manipulated like never before so it won't be the masses that determine when we get a massive crash but the big guys and the Fed. I suppose you could say it is when the masses decide, but it's when they decide it's party time and are investing their loans, and then the shadow players can steal everything they have by keeping the narrative positive as the markets go ever lower and they bail out when the markets are down 90%, 1929 style!

[Yodean]

[Yodean]

*****
This is a ratio chart comparing the formerly "expensive" growth stocks vs. S&P 500. Although a bit more downside is always possible, we're back to the pre-cv19 plandemic trend, if you like to draw trend lines on your charts.

[Yodean]

*****

As always, the 69 cent question is, where are we on this graph?

[AstuteShift]

Right now on Disbelief

Long term we got a long way to go before euphoria