AstuteShift wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 4:58 pm
There are interesting theories about this. Or when you die, you can choose to not accept the light (which means you evolve to the higher plane) or accept it and spend an endless loop of reincarnation and certain things suck your energy in the process.
What you think of this theory?
Wow this topic has really evolved dramatically from the COVID Pandemic
I always found the ideas prescribed in Mainstream religion to be overly simplistic and to a large degree childish. Their ideologies appear to foster fear, confusion and provide very little enlightenment other than accepting the fact that you are nothing and this so-called diety is everything. A very simplistic overview is generated to keep most in an endless loop of ignorance and suffering. Are they points in some of these books, yes there are but one has to read between the lines to identify their true meaning and even then it takes a lot to put them into practice because it goes against the narrative that most were raised with?
Back to your point. I suspect that there are learning steps. Look at a baby it goes through phases before it can run, think and do many of the things an adult can do. Not all are positive developments due to brainwashing but nevertheless, you don't move from being a baby to an adult in one swoop. I believe that we have similar stages in this life (journey) if you fail to achieve a certain level you repeat it but in a lower form or a poorer or richer form. If you were poor, now you have the option of being rich, etc. As you finish each stage you move on to a higher plane. Each dimension has multiple planes. As in life, if you do nothing and sit on your butt, you can't expect to succeed. As they say crap in crap out. The Devil has a part in this game, his ideas are part of the story. Take sadness, for example, if you are sad forever you would never know what the state of happiness is if you were happy all the time the opposite would apply. If you only experienced happiness and sadness you would miss out on the most important state, which is the state of peace.
So the Devil can be viewed as one extreme and Mainstream God as another extreme, What lies in between is knowledge and tranquillity. Most confuse the Devi with Evil, those are completely separate things. Evil is operated by a separate force. After all Lucifers name translated means Light-bringer.
This is an offshoot so I will mention it briefly
Now the 3 in one concept applies to many things that occur on this dimension. You have that in Christianity, the father, the son and the holy spirit. You have that in humans me, myself and I. You have that with the Devil. Devil, Satan and Lucifer. In calculus, you have the limits, derivatives and integrals. Etc, etc
Some interesting data that provides context to Lucifer and Satan
The name Lucifer means Light-Bringer, but it is not a name of the devil, it is the name of the Morning Star or the planet Venus, and is figuratively used for collective human achievements that in fact herald the much greater human culture of the New Creation.
What also may have helped to suggest that Lucifer was a personal name, and particularly of the devil, was a tradition that Pliny the Elder talks about in his Natural History. Pliny laments how in his day and age all food and goods had to be marked, labeled and locked up to prevent pilfering throngs of nameless slaves from purloining them.
Back in the old days, relative to Pliny's first century AD, people had only one slave, and that slave had a name derived from his master's plus the word puer, meaning child or in this case servant. A slave of Marcus would thus be called Marcipor, and a slave of Lucius would thus be called Lucipor, or Servant Of The Light (Hist.33.6).
The names Lucipor and Lucifer are not all that dissimilar, and when we then realize that our word "category" comes from the Greek verb κατηγορεω (kategoreo), which means to accuse and which is the main occupation of the devil (REVELATION 12:10), the words of Pliny appear to curiously resonate with the traditions of the Bible
https://www.abarim-publications.com/Mea ... cifer.html
The confusion between Lucifer and this invented Devil named Satan is one of the oldest religious conspiracies that is still in effect to this very day. This is no surprise being that most all Christians are simply not educated on the bible, its history or the true meanings behind many of the biblical passages and the words that are contained in this book. My hopes are to educate you by telling you the truth in the most simple manner possible. In doing so, I ask that you please keep an open mind and that you do not shoot the witness.
The facts are Lucifer is mentioned only once in the Bible. ” How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning.” Isaiah xiv. 12.
Not any other time is Lucifer mentioned and at no time as it been mentioned with Satan or the Devil. Hence, any assumptions you may have that Lucifer is Satan or the Devil are false and simply based onheresy. What this means is that you need to get educated by reading about this subject yourself and I will also provide some research material with links below this article. If you think I AM lying or trying to mislead you, then the burden of proof is on you to prove me wrong. This is done not just by stating your alleged facts, but by also providing actual evidence which I bet that you will never be able to accomplish in a million years.
This case solved. Lucifer is NOT Satan or the Devil.
Below, I will provide a multitude of expert authors, books and links for you to investigate this yourself if you still do not “believe” what I know as fact. As they say, ignorance is bliss and knowledge is power. I choose knowledge.
Shakespeare and the Bible: to which is added prayers on the stage, … – Page 136
books.google.comJames Rees – 1876 – 188 pages – Free Google eBook – Read
Lucifer is mentioned but once in the Bible. ” How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning.” Isaiah xiv. 12. Shakespeare uses it six times. ” Falls like Lucifer.” Henry VIII., Act iii. Sc. 2. ” Lucifer and Beelzebub himself.” Henry V.
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The Cyclopædia of Biblical Literature: Volume 2 – Page 275
books.google.comJohn Kitto – 1851 – Free Google eBook – Read
6 ‘Zcurtiaos), a word that occurs once in the English Version in the linen — ‘ How art thou fallen from heaven, Lucifer, son of the morning ! … This, the popular sense, is conveyed in the note in Barker’s Bible : ‘ Thou that thoughtest thyselfe most glorious, and as it were placed m … According to ecclesiastical lia- dition, the author of the Gospel is the same Luke who is mentioned in Paul’s Epistles (Pbilem.
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The Genesis of the Bible – Page 5
books.google.comShaka Saye Bambata Dolo – 2012 – 820 pages – Google eBook – Preview
But Lucifer is actually, the name of the Bright and Morning Star, and not the father of evil. … King James translated Bible of 1611 A. D. In the Canaanites Amharic Literature of ancient Egypt, North Afrikan Mythology, the Bright and Morning Star, …
https://gnosticwarrior.com/lucifer-satan.html
