crypto that isnt stupid

[hooligan]

made 30% off the stupid ripple crash two days ago

here's some crypto tech that i'd actually like to see succeed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn7aWuerBB8

they're trying to make economic tools that are elegant enough to actually democratize the economy

and let real people cooperate and compete and create their world

( so are a lot of people )

and i'm not an expert

but looking through their info , it's the most well thought-out i've found , philosophically

and technically , as far as i can understand , seems well-done and clever

[Yodean]

@hooligan: nice video, and the people in it seem nice enough, idealistic, wanna change the world for the better, help the little guy, and all that jazz;

-my thoughts: they are most likely going to fail miserably; sure, anything can happen in the Wild West that is crypto., but based on the 3-minute clip you posted, their ideas are so full of garbage that it's a bit unbelievable to me that anyone takes their Kool-Aid seriously; they use a bunch of fancy and vague words and phrases, which when examined with any seriousness, the validity of which falls apart;

-you're better off investing in Ether's DeFi, and BTC after the inevitable pullback;

[SOL]

The road to hell is paved with good intentions and that's all you need to know about those that try to help the masses. They will fail miserably as Yodean noted.



Remember this, when a product is launched its not the quality of the product that matters, its whether the masses are willing to embrace it or not. If the product is crap but marketed well, they are more likely to embrace crap over quality because they don't want to do any research, they want quick sound bites and a lot of flashy images. This is why TSLA which barely makes money (if one removes they subsidies they make almost nothing) is trading in the stratosphere and like the stock AMBD that took forever to pullback, when it does pullback it will shed a minimum of 50%. There are also other crappy companies but that's not the point I am trying to make. Nobody can help the masses, but you can help some members in the crowd if they are willing to break free and seek help.

[hooligan]

@hooligan: nice video, and the people in it seem nice enough, idealistic, wanna change the world for the better, help the little guy, and all that jazz;

-my thoughts: they are most likely going to fail miserably; sure, anything can happen in the Wild West that is crypto., but based on the 3-minute clip you posted, their ideas are so full of garbage that it's a bit unbelievable to me that anyone takes their Kool-Aid seriously; they use a bunch of fancy and vague words and phrases, which when examined with any seriousness, the validity of which falls apart;

-you're better off investing in Ether's DeFi, and BTC after the inevitable pullback;

the way i feel about your reaction is that some people get triggered by idealism for some reason . the literal aesthetic of idealism .

you're Assuming the validity Would fall apart -If- you looked Because of the rhetorical aesthetic (idealism) . that's like saying a food's unhealthy or tastes bad because you don't like how it looks . contend with the philosophy itself and then check the background machinations for validity -yourself- before you spew your hopelessness .

i looked for myself . i'm not an expert but it seems pretty backed up . they're serious .

doesn't mean it's not a fat longshot . deathstar flight missions

[hooligan]

The road to hell is paved with good intentions and that's all you need to know about those that try to help the masses. They will fail miserably as Yodean noted.

Remember this, when a product is launched its not the quality of the product that matters, its whether the masses are willing to embrace it or not. If the product is crap but marketed well, they are more likely to embrace crap over quality because they don't want to do any research, they want quick sound bites and a lot of flashy images. This is why TSLA which barely makes money (if one removes they subsidies they make almost nothing) is trading in the stratosphere and like the stock AMBD that took forever to pullback, when it does pullback it will shed a minimum of 50%. There are also other crappy companies but that's not the point I am trying to make. Nobody can help the masses, but you can help some members in the crowd if they are willing to break free and seek help.

i Want to help the masses because i believe all they wanna do (as children , before they're warped) is learn and grow . and they aren't given an environment to do so honestly , they're given an environment of lies and tricks . i believe it's possible to help them just Really Hard . because the people who prey on them need them (main power source) and so defend the control mechanisms at all costs .

i think helping the masses is really about manipulating their environment to steer them to themselves , rather than into slavery traps . herding sheep to their higher selves .

look certainly matters more than quality in our world . that's why a truly revolutionary technology would need to Combine flashiness with true functionality . tall order but not impossible .

principled people are bad at marketing . artists are bad at organizing . technical people are bad at principles . teams have to be made .

i'm not saying these guys are gonna do it but , but they're approaching the functional/philosophical parts of the equation with some interesting gumption .

it's likely they'll fail , but the tools/ideas they build may be used by someone else in the future .

i'm not gonna stop taking advantage of mass stupidity using tactical investor etc .

but i plan to roll the money back into making some kind of utopia

..... it's all abt environmental curation . what people are around determines their behavior in large part , or their Range of behavior . and what they become , their becoming trajectory .

grow a garden out from yourself
swallow the world in good will

[AstuteShift]

You’re welcome to try

I was like that as well, however I was proven wrong over and over again

Platos allegory of the cave is a forgone conclusion for 90-95 percent of the brainless masses. They deserve all the misery since they secretly want it so bad

Who are we to awaken them? This also goes to your loved ones as well, hence why being an observer is a powerful trait. You escape that responsibility and go on to improve your well being and pursuits.

I’d say, only help those who actually have a desire to change

[Triplethought]

The road to hell is paved with good intentions and that's all you need to know about those that try to help the masses. They will fail miserably as Yodean noted.



Remember this, when a product is launched its not the quality of the product that matters, its whether the masses are willing to embrace it or not. If the product is crap but marketed well, they are more likely to embrace crap over quality because they don't want to do any research, they want quick sound bites and a lot of flashy images. This is why TSLA which barely makes money (if one removes they subsidies they make almost nothing) is trading in the stratosphere and like the stock AMBD that took forever to pullback, when it does pullback it will shed a minimum of 50%. There are also other crappy companies but that's not the point I am trying to make. Nobody can help the masses, but you can help some members in the crowd if they are willing to break free and seek help.

I found the following podcast fascinating regarding bitcoin. Skip the first 10 minutes if you can to get to the interview. Michael Saylor is very compelling. But if you listen a second time you start asking yourself questions like "Will we REALLY lose half our value in dollars in the next 3-5 years?". Anyway I'd be interested in your take on this. sure, the podcast is long. but I promise you guys it's worth a listen

https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cH ... IBhAF&ep=6

[hooligan]

reminds me of a social study i saw once (can't remember where i saw it)

in some ghetto in queens , they couldn't get people to stop vandalizing and spray painting a certain public area . it was a shitty place . broken glass etc. no matter how many times they fixed the glass or painted over the graffiti , people always messed it up again .

then , by coincidence from some government initiative , the city hired an architect to spruce up that public area (among others) . he didn't change much , just put some plants , moved a few things around . brightened the energy of that little locale slightly .

the vandalism stopped on its own , to the police's surprise .

[hooligan]

You’re welcome to try

I was like that as well, however I was proven wrong over and over again

Platos allegory of the cave is a forgone conclusion for 90-95 percent of the brainless masses. They deserve all the misery since they secretly want it so bad

Who are we to awaken them? This also goes to your loved ones as well, hence why being an observer is a powerful trait. You escape that responsibility and go on to improve your well being and pursuits.

I’d say, only help those who actually have a desire to change

fill your own well , then overflow , i agree

and yet , i feel that i notice that all people have an inner child buried under their reactive mental garbage

that just wants to grow and party , basically

i don't think they desire misery, i think a weird part of them that got attached to them does . the real them wants to thrive and become

[SOL]

The road to hell is paved with good intentions and that's all you need to know about those that try to help the masses. They will fail miserably as Yodean noted.

Remember this, when a product is launched its not the quality of the product that matters, its whether the masses are willing to embrace it or not. If the product is crap but marketed well, they are more likely to embrace crap over quality because they don't want to do any research, they want quick sound bites and a lot of flashy images. This is why TSLA which barely makes money (if one removes they subsidies they make almost nothing) is trading in the stratosphere and like the stock AMBD that took forever to pullback, when it does pullback it will shed a minimum of 50%. There are also other crappy companies but that's not the point I am trying to make. Nobody can help the masses, but you can help some members in the crowd if they are willing to break free and seek help.

i Want to help the masses because i believe all they wanna do (as children , before they're warped) is learn and grow . and they aren't given an environment to do so honestly , they're given an environment of lies and tricks . i believe it's possible to help them just Really Hard . because the people who prey on them need them (main power source) and so defend the control mechanisms at all costs .

i think helping the masses is really about manipulating their environment to steer them to themselves , rather than into slavery traps . herding sheep to their higher selves .

look certainly matters more than quality in our world . that's why a truly revolutionary technology would need to Combine flashiness with true functionality . tall order but not impossible .

principled people are bad at marketing . artists are bad at organizing . technical people are bad at principles . teams have to be made .

i'm not saying these guys are gonna do it but , but they're approaching the functional/philosophical parts of the equation with some interesting gumption .

it's likely they'll fail , but the tools/ideas they build may be used by someone else in the future .

i'm not gonna stop taking advantage of mass stupidity using tactical investor etc .

but i plan to roll the money back into making some kind of utopia

..... it's all abt environmental curation . what people are around determines their behavior in large part , or their Range of behavior . and what they become , their becoming trajectory .

grow a garden out from yourself
swallow the world in good will

The statements that follow are not meant to put you down or as to indicate that I know it all, they are things I have observed over the years.

Before I continue, I bid you well on your quest, if you succeed you will be one of the first to do so in history.

I have noticed that those that have an incredible desire to help others have failed to look introspectively in detail. if they did they would notice that by far and large they need more help than those they are trying to help. Anyone below the 4th level is really in no position to help others. in order to help another one has to be of sound mind and heart on multiple levels and multiple fronts. For one; you have to have almost no bias. You should be able to look at any situation without letting the situation get to you. If one can't then generally one is deluding themselves about helping others, what they are actually trying to do is mask their weakness under the guise of helping others.


Are you sure the masses want to awaken? Having an inner child within you means nothing. Some children are silly, some children are curious and want to grow and expand and so forth.


You may view these statements as empty conjuring or total BS, it's up to you and it's your right to do whatever you want with this information

[Budge]

that just wants to grow and party , basically

i don't think they desire misery, i think a weird part of them that got attached to them does . the real them wants to thrive and become

They may not desire misery but at certain point(s) they realize they are miserable and that that is the real human condition (because some outside influence intrudes on their life in their particular Plato's Cave and disturbs them). They are unaware they are "victims" of Price's Law and the Pareto Principle:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_WBWCVmmrc

Even if they were aware, in severe economic downturns, they succumb to the siren call of the socialist/communist demagogues.

[AstuteShift]

The masses fail to learn history so they repeat it over and over again

Those who don’t learn peace within themselves, or at least question will either refuse or completely ignore your help just to save space

Can you imagine, for the masses, to realize that the way they lived has been a lie or an illusion? That their thoughts were not theirs but rather seeded from other people?

That’s too much for the masses to handle. In a way it’s cruel to wake them up and also history tells us that those who try really to help end up dead

The best way, is to speak your truth but don’t expect miracles. Learn peace within yourself first, or as SOL has stated, push yourself to be at a higher consciousness level. Don’t have expectations, have a smile and only really help to those who really have a desire to evolve

Then again, my opinion means nothing. I’m just speaking from experience

[Yodean]

I found the following podcast fascinating regarding bitcoin. Skip the first 10 minutes if you can to get to the interview. Michael Saylor is very compelling. But if you listen a second time you start asking yourself questions like "Will we REALLY lose half our value in dollars in the next 3-5 years?". Anyway I'd be interested in your take on this. sure, the podcast is long. but I promise you guys it's worth a listen

https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cH ... IBhAF&ep=6

-TT, I listened to the entire podcast. I've also listened to Michael give interviews in other, shorter formats. He makes a lot of good points, but imo he underestimates the effects of debt deflation (especially in the Eurodollar - i.e. the overseas USD - market) to offset the Fed's "money printing." I use the term "money printing" in quotes because I suspect many members of this forum understand that what the Fed truly does isn't really "money printing," but the net effects may seem that way. In any case, that's a bit of a tangent.

-I don't think the USD will lose half its purchasing power over the next 3 - 5 years for the above reasons (i.e. when debt deflation occurs - i.e. including delinquencies, debt not being paid back, bankruptcies, etc. - it essentially causes destruction in the USD supply, hence offsetting the Fed's "money printing" to some extent).

-For my own general projections, I use 2% - 4%; that's how much the USD loses in purchasing power on an annual basis, over a very long time frame, approximately.

-If you are interested in getting into the nitty gritty of this stuff a bit more, this dude isn't a terrible place to start:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtvGeTxBKdk

[Yodean]

Lol, I recently had a random, friendly exchange on another forum with a very nice chap who was debating the fundamentals of BTC vs. gold vs. cash - he preferred BTC and mocked gold and cash.

As I consider myself a Level 3.2 Sol Initiate (proven Force-Insensitive thus far, unfortunately), I explained why I liked all three assets, for different reasons:

Gold = rock;
Cash = paper;
BTC = some code;

What gives them value is herd psychology (i.e. MP). If enough people believe that bitcoin is "digital gold," and hence a store of value, then BTC is going to act like that, until the herd changes its mind (or is induced to do so). Likewise with cash, gold, Ether, Monero, expensive artwork, tulips, etc.

[SOL]

Lol, I recently had a random, friendly exchange on another forum with a very nice chap who was debating the fundamentals of BTC vs. gold vs. cash - he preferred BTC and mocked gold and cash.

As I consider myself a Level 3.2 Sol Initiate (proven Force-Insensitive thus far, unfortunately), I explained why I liked all three assets, for different reasons:

Gold = rock;
Cash = paper;
BTC = some code;

What gives them value is herd psychology (i.e. MP). If enough people believe that bitcoin is "digital gold," and hence a store of value, then BTC is going to act like that, until the herd changes its mind (or is induced to do so). Likewise with cash, gold, Ether, Monero, expensive artwork, tulips, etc.

Expressed in even simpler terms everything of value, including your loved ones are based on perceptions. Your preceptions assign a given value to everything, some more some less. However, if the perception changes, the item that was viewed as the least valuable could move and take the place of the most valuable. Which indicates that life, in general, is based on a set of perceptions and these perceptions, for the most part, are based on twisted values, which indirectly confirms that life for most (the masses) is just an illusion