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I have a friend who has been getting migraines for around 15 years, very regularly, more or less every other day. He has been to doctors throughout this time and been prescribed various painkillers, he's also had blood tests and been through scanners, all to no avail.

I did a little bit of research and found that magnesium was strongly recommended as a first step, I got him some tablets to take daily
around a month ago and he hasn't had a migraine all this time, completely healed!

Doctors appear in general to have little to no nutritional training, I wonder why Mr pharmaceutical!
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bpcw wrote: Sat Feb 05, 2022 3:56 pm I have a friend who has been getting migraines for around 15 years, very regularly, more or less every other day. He has been to doctors throughout this time and been prescribed various painkillers, he's also had blood tests and been through scanners, all to no avail.

I did a little bit of research and found that magnesium was strongly recommended as a first step, I got him some tablets to take daily
around a month ago and he hasn't had a migraine all this time, completely healed!

Doctors appear in general to have little to no nutritional training, I wonder why Mr pharmaceutical!
Is his BP normal? I had a friend that had headaches. Long story short he found that aspirin and cutting down on wheat helped him a lot, 5 years later he has almost no migraines and he also uses magnesium and L theanine
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SOL wrote: Sat Feb 05, 2022 3:58 pm
bpcw wrote: Sat Feb 05, 2022 3:56 pm I have a friend who has been getting migraines for around 15 years, very regularly, more or less every other day. He has been to doctors throughout this time and been prescribed various painkillers, he's also had blood tests and been through scanners, all to no avail.

I did a little bit of research and found that magnesium was strongly recommended as a first step, I got him some tablets to take daily
around a month ago and he hasn't had a migraine all this time, completely healed!

Doctors appear in general to have little to no nutritional training, I wonder why Mr pharmaceutical!
Is his BP normal? I had a friend that had headaches. Long story short he found that aspirin and cutting down on wheat helped him a lot, 5 years later he has almost no migraines and he also uses magnesium and L theanine
Were these just ordinary migraines or cluster ones which are so severe they're nicknamed suicide headaches as many take their lives because of them?

My neighbour has just said her husband is getting them, has been suicidal and is on morphine.

Really appreciate a quick response from you or anyone else please.
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bpcw wrote: Sat Feb 05, 2022 5:01 pm
SOL wrote: Sat Feb 05, 2022 3:58 pm
bpcw wrote: Sat Feb 05, 2022 3:56 pm I have a friend who has been getting migraines for around 15 years, very regularly, more or less every other day. He has been to doctors throughout this time and been prescribed various painkillers, he's also had blood tests and been through scanners, all to no avail.

I did a little bit of research and found that magnesium was strongly recommended as a first step, I got him some tablets to take daily
around a month ago and he hasn't had a migraine all this time, completely healed!

Doctors appear in general to have little to no nutritional training, I wonder why Mr pharmaceutical!
Is his BP normal? I had a friend that had headaches. Long story short he found that aspirin and cutting down on wheat helped him a lot, 5 years later he has almost no migraines and he also uses magnesium and L theanine
Were these just ordinary migraines or cluster ones which are so severe they're nicknamed suicide headaches as many take their lives because of them?

My neighbour has just said her husband is getting them, has been suicidal and is on morphine.

Really appreciate a quick response from you or anyone else please.
I will have to ask him, but I think it was similar to what your neighbour might be experiencing. the only difference being my friend has a very high threshold for pain. His full regime as follows, but he developed after doing a full blood work analysis. He discovered his liver enzymes were elevated, his cortisol was higher than normal, his Vit D was low, and his CRP and homocysteine were above normal.

So he started to take MB, up to 1 gram of aspirin per day (to prevent bleeding issues, he took 5mg vit K), he took over 500mg magnesium citrate per day, Vit D of 100K Iu for 4 days and then 20K Iu until his Vit D rose from 12 to 60. He eliminated wheat and made sure he did not eat more than 3 different things at a time. for example veggies, and chicken and then for dessert some chocolate. He did not mix 4 dishes. in less than a week he noticed an improvement. He also took L-theanine and drank cider vinegar with honey three times a day (the cider vinegar was organic).

He no longer suffers from migranes. hope that helps


This link also might contain information that could help
https://raypeatforum.com/community/thre ... ped.10827/
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SOL wrote: Sat Feb 05, 2022 7:29 pm
bpcw wrote: Sat Feb 05, 2022 5:01 pm
SOL wrote: Sat Feb 05, 2022 3:58 pm

Is his BP normal? I had a friend that had headaches. Long story short he found that aspirin and cutting down on wheat helped him a lot, 5 years later he has almost no migraines and he also uses magnesium and L theanine
Were these just ordinary migraines or cluster ones which are so severe they're nicknamed suicide headaches as many take their lives because of them?

My neighbour has just said her husband is getting them, has been suicidal and is on morphine.

Really appreciate a quick response from you or anyone else please.
I will have to ask him, but I think it was similar to what your neighbour might be experiencing. the only difference being my friend has a very high threshold for pain. His full regime as follows, but he developed after doing a full blood work analysis. He discovered his liver enzymes were elevated, his cortisol was higher than normal, his Vit D was low, and his CRP and homocysteine were above normal.

So he started to take MB, up to 1 gram of aspirin per day (to prevent bleeding issues, he took 5mg vit K), he took over 500mg magnesium citrate per day, Vit D of 100K Iu for 4 days and then 20K Iu until his Vit D rose from 12 to 60. He eliminated wheat and made sure he did not eat more than 3 different things at a time. for example veggies, and chicken and then for dessert some chocolate. He did not mix 4 dishes. in less than a week he noticed an improvement. He also took L-theanine and drank cider vinegar with honey three times a day (the cider vinegar was organic).

He no longer suffers from migranes. hope that helps


This link also might contain information that could help
https://raypeatforum.com/community/thre ... ped.10827/
Very much appreciate you taking the time Sol!
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Wow that is awesome to hear about the Migraines. I have significantly reduced the amount of headaches I got after I got a "Hair Mineral Analysis" for me the big one was Potassium. For others its salt or magnesium. Here is some information on how you figure this out.

https://youtu.be/TdV7_-rvWoE

https://youtu.be/cOdFgtVAY_Y
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langdj wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 4:34 pm ... for me the big one was Potassium. For others its salt or magnesium. Here is some information on how you figure this out.
I haven't had hair analysis done and generally enjoy fairly spectacular metabolic health, adjusted for Father Time. Of course, I train like a bit of a MOFO so I accumulate various MSK injuries, some which even manage to heal completely.

My general philosophy which I am trying very hard to change when it comes to physical training is that if I am not at least mildly injured somewhere, I am not training hard enough - after all, pain is just Fear leaving the body, right?

My spouse thinks I am an idiot when it comes to this - she is probably right. :lol:

With all that said, I have found from direct experience that when I increase both my potassium intake (e.g. coconut water) and magnesium intake (fresh greens, different formulations of magnesium supplements, etc.), I feel significantly better and perform better, mentally and physically.
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Yodean wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 6:19 pm
langdj wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 4:34 pm ... for me the big one was Potassium. For others its salt or magnesium. Here is some information on how you figure this out.
I haven't had hair analysis done and generally enjoy fairly spectacular metabolic health, adjusted for Father Time. Of course, I train like a bit of a MOFO so I accumulate various MSK injuries, some which even manage to heal completely.

My general philosophy which I am trying very hard to change when it comes to physical training is that if I am not at least mildly injured somewhere, I am not training hard enough - after all, pain is just Fear leaving the body, right?

My spouse thinks I am an idiot when it comes to this - she is probably right. :lol:

With all that said, I have found from direct experience that when I increase both my potassium intake (e.g. coconut water) and magnesium intake (fresh greens, different formulations of magnesium supplements, etc.), I feel significantly better and perform better, mentally and physically.
It's so timely that you said this. I have been weight lifting for years and almost always it works me through injuries and makes things better! However, just last week I pulled my groin lifting. I had cognitive dissonance about it too. In my mind weight lifting only helps issues so it took about a week for me to admit it was doing side lunges :-). Ofcourse, I have a ski vacation coming up. Doooo

Anyway, when it heals I will be exploring strengthening this muscle again by bringing it to its end ranges of motion under load (carefully) but at least for a while in a more rehab mode.

Weight lifting is a great way of pointing out what you need to work on before old age just piles on you in such a way you cannot over come it. Would rather go down fighting than watching TV
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A far more effective work is something called peak fitness. You choose any activity weight lifting or sports. In the sports arena for example you would sprint as hard as could for 30 seconds and then stop. Relax for 90 seconds and then do it again. You do 9 sets and you are done.

Another variation is weight lifting. Choose the heaviest weight you can lift, lets you do bicep curls then you would do one curl with the maximum weight possible, let's say that is 35kg, now you reduce it in half to 17.5 and you would do as many curls as you could for 30 seconds. then relax for 90 seconds and then do another 2 sets. Each arm counts as one set. You could continue to 9 sets or move to another muscle. You are exercising for only 270 seconds but it's a quite deadly workout, most that are not fit can barely complete the sixth set. The benefit of this system is that it keeps you fit and you do so without raising stressor hormones like Cortisol by too much. It also keeps your lactic acid levels lower than weight lifting. You can modify this also to simply doing 9 sets of push-ups, etc
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SOL wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:25 pm A far more effective work is something called peak fitness.
https://youtu.be/vJo-CUal_-8?t=38

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Supreme example of Russian peak fitness in a 15-year-old. Breathtaking performance. 2 quads. Beautiful.

They don't make 'em like this in North America no mo'.

Same with Russian Special Forces vs. CIA, Black Ops.

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Peak fitness, its a high intensity interval training, very effective, like tabata protocol. But most important, dont forget a good warming up, to make all your body hot during five minutes, and also a good cooldown during ten minutes. The cooldown should be the icing on the cake with yoga poses, standing yoga poses.
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There are hundreds and hundreds different fitness protocols. I have tested some. One of them is very useful and efficient, its called greasing the groove. Its a russian protocol to become strong like a russian bear. I know that you guys are badasses, but the idea is to become more badass !!!!
The idea is to choose a badass exercise and to train it during some minutes, lets say four minutes, but without fatigue, you have to stay fresh and not exhausted. And you repeat it four or five times in the day or evening.
My favorite is, the kettlebell clean with a 32kg kettlebell, clean it 6 times, then stay in the clean position and walk with it during 1 min in the beginning. Its a loaded carry, this one is the rack carry. Its an incredible isometric exercice with micro oscillations in all the body, the core, the shoulders, the back have to work hard to maintain the equilibrum. Rest some seconds, and repeat with the other hand. And its all, most important, do it without exhaustion, without excessive fatigue.
Do it five times in the day.
After some weeks, you can chose another exercice, lets say the waiters walk, etc.
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stefk wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 11:26 am There are hundreds and hundreds different fitness protocols. I have tested some. One of them is very useful and efficient, its called greasing the groove. Its a russian protocol to become strong like a russian bear. I know that you guys are badasses, but the idea is to become more badass !!!!
The idea is to choose a badass exercise and to train it during some minutes, lets say four minutes, but without fatigue, you have to stay fresh and not exhausted. And you repeat it four or five times in the day or evening.
My favorite is, the kettlebell clean with a 32kg kettlebell, clean it 6 times, then stay in the clean position and walk with it during 1 min in the beginning. Its a loaded carry, this one is the rack carry. Its an incredible isometric exercice with micro oscillations in all the body, the core, the shoulders, the back have to work hard to maintain the equilibrum. Rest some seconds, and repeat with the other hand. And its all, most important, do it without exhaustion, without excessive fatigue.
Do it five times in the day.
After some weeks, you can chose another exercice, lets say the waiters walk, etc.
is this what you are talking about?

https://youtu.be/IVvmnmG0BfE
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Yes thats it. Useful exercice for the lower back, the legs, it strenghtens important muscles, the spinnae erectors, these muscles protect the spine. You can also do it with two kettlebells, and with two bells you enter in another universe......

Important, in the video he shows it very well, to begin the movement, feet and kettlebel form a triangle, and you begin with a straight back, we call it the gorilla position, very important.
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stefk wrote: Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:56 pm Important, in the video he shows it very well, to begin the movement, feet and kettlebel form a triangle, and you begin with a straight back, we call it the gorilla position, very important.
Yeh, I've been using kettlebells (KB) for over fifteen years, as part of my Ninjedi training. Own five, they're pretty much indestructible.

My favourite is the Turkish get-up (TGU) and its more advanced variations. Works pretty much every bodypart at once, requires total body coordination, decent balance, real ninja stuff.

Some have called the TGU "loaded Yoga." If I were only allowed one single KB movement for the rest of my life, it would be the TGU.

Also like KB swings and their variations, KB snatches, and KB one-armed presses. The KB clean is good, but for me the snatch already incorporates that movement, more or less, and is a more advanced movement pattern.

Pavel Tsatsouline is credited for bringing KBs from Russia to the attention of the mainstream West, but he's also a real expert on Russian peak performance science, not just KBs. I use a lot of his ideas and evidence-based approach in my physical training. One example is "greasing the groove" (GTG) mentioned by Stefk. There's a whole bunch of neuroscience theory behind GTG.

Pavel's work is readily available online ... for those interested in evidence-based peak performance training, he's definitely worth a look.
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