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Fascism COVID is the Perfect Excuse

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Greece announced Tuesday that everyone 60 and older must be vaccinated by mid-January or face monthly fines of 100 euros (roughly $114).

Earlier this month, Austria said it would require its entire adult population to be vaccinated by Feb. 1. Those who refuse are set to pay up to 3,600 euros, or just over $4,000, in fines.

"It's not a punishment," Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis told his cabinet in a televised meeting. "I would say it is the price for health. It is also an act of justice for the vaccinated. It's not right that they are deprived of health care services because others stubbornly refuse to do the obvious."
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Many states banning COVID-19 vaccine mandates

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A dozen governors have signed legislation restricting COVID-19 vaccine mandates in their states

Arizona: On April 19, Republican Gov. Doug Ducey issued an order prohibiting the state from requiring people to prove their COVID-19 vaccination status to enter a business, building or area or to receive a public service. However, healthcare institutions can request COVID-19 vaccination status documentation of patients, residents, employees or visitors.

On June 30, Mr. Ducey signed a bill requiring employers to provide reasonable accommodation to employees with sincerely held religious beliefs, practices or observances that prevent the employee from getting the COVID-19 vaccine unless the accommodation would pose an undue hardship to the operation of the business. The bill allows healthcare institutions to require employees to be vaccinated.

Arkansas: On April 28, the state enacted a bill prohibiting the state, political subdivisions of the state or public officials from mandating vaccination as a condition of employment. These agencies may not discriminate against or coerce individuals who refuse a COVID-19 vaccine by withholding opportunities for career advancement, wage increases or insurance discounts.

Georgia: On May 25, Republican Gov. Brian Kemp said that no state agency can require proof of COVID-19 vaccination as a condition of employment by the state, conducting business with the state or enjoying other rights provided by the state.

Florida: On April 2, Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis said businesses are prohibited from requiring customers to verify a COVID-19 vaccination status or post-transmission recovery to gain access to the business. Effective Sept. 16, the state will give $5,000 fines to any public or private entity that requires proof of vaccination, News 4 Jax reported. Since asking for proof of vaccination is part of a vaccine mandate, some companies may pay millions of dollars in fines.

Indiana: On April 29, Republican Gov. Eric Holcomb signed a law prohibiting state or local governments from requiring anyone, including employees, to show proof of vaccination.

Montana: On May 7, Republican Gov. Greg Gianforte signed a bill that prohibits discrimination based on vaccination status. This includes prohibiting an employer or government entity to refuse employment to a person or to discriminate against a person in compensation or in a term, condition or privilege of employment based on the person's vaccination status. Additionally, an individual may not be required to receive any vaccine whose use is allowed under an emergency use authorization or any vaccine undergoing safety trials.

New Hampshire: On July 26, Republican Gov. Chris Sununu signed a bill stating that employers may only mandate immunization as a condition of employment when a "direct threat" exists. A "direct threat" is defined as a significant risk of substantial harm to the health or safety of the individual or others that cannot be eliminated or reduced by reasonable accommodation. State hospitals are exempt from the mandate

North Dakota: On May 7, Republican Gov. Doug Burgum signed a bill prohibiting state government entities from requiring a private business to obtain documentation to verify an individual's vaccination status. The bill exempts healthcare organizations from the ban.

Oklahoma: On May 28, Republican Gov. Kevin Stitt issued an order prohibiting state agencies from requiring that people show proof of vaccination to enter public buildings. The order doesn't apply to employees working in patient-facing settings.

Tennessee: On May 25, Republican Gov. Bill Lee signed a bill that prohibits a state agency, department or political subdivision from mandating COVID-19 vaccines.

Texas: Gov. Greg Abbott issued an executive order Oct. 11 banning any entity in the state, including private employers, from enforcing COVID-19 vaccine mandates. The order states that "no entity in Texas" can enforce vaccination against anyone, including an employee or consumer, who objects "for any reason of personal conscience, based on a religious belief, or for medical reasons, including prior recovery from COVID-19."

Utah: On March 16, Republican Gov. Spencer Cox signed a bill that prohibits state agencies from requiring people to get a COVID-19 vaccine as a condition of employment. However, the bill does not apply to employees who work in a medical setting and are required to receive vaccinations to perform the assigned duties and responsibilities of the job.

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/w ... rkers.html

And a total of 21 states ban 'vaccine passports' to some extent according to NASHP, though the extent to which this is enforced will vary. These states are Idaho, Utah, Arizona, Arkansas, Montana, Wyoming, North Dakota, South Dakota, Kansas, Oklahoma, Texas, Iowa, Missouri, Alaska, Mississippi, Indiana, Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, and South Carolina.
https://www.newsweek.com/states-ban-vac ... tt-1640793

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The PTB are increasingly desperate as more evidence leaks out that vaxxed or unvaxxed, makes not much difference. In fact, if you're vaxxed you may be at greater risk!

From the Lancet:

"In Germany, the rate of symptomatic COVID-19 cases among the fully vaccinated (“breakthrough infections”) is reported weekly since 21. July 2021 and was 16.9% at that time among patients of 60 years and older [[2]]. This proportion is increasing week by week and was 58.9% on 27. October 2021 (Figure 1) providing clear evidence of the increasing relevance of the fully vaccinated as a possible source of transmission."

"In Israel a nosocomial outbreak was reported involving 16 healthcare workers, 23 exposed patients and two family members. The source was a fully vaccinated COVID-19 patient. The vaccination rate was 96.2% among all exposed individuals (151 healthcare workers and 97 patients). Fourteen fully vaccinated patients became severely ill or died, the two unvaccinated patients developed mild disease."

"Many decisionmakers assume that the vaccinated can be excluded as a source of transmission. It appears to be grossly negligent to ignore the vaccinated population as a possible and relevant source of transmission when deciding about public health control measures."

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lane ... t?s=08#%20
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If all else fails they take you to war

Covid hysteria is dying down or they saving it for 2022.

Hopefully it doesnt lead to what happens in Australia, with the Covid camps but anything is possible
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A good article by Claire Wolfe that uses the 1844 Millerite Great Disappointment as her intro to our current FUBAR dilemma. As investors we know all about delusions and manias.

https://www.clairewolfe.com/blog/2021/1 ... ritarians/

"No matter what the belief system, no matter how spectacular its failure, True Believers will not only find a way to go on believing — they will believe harder and stronger than ever. Disappointments will not disappoint them. Facts will not sway them. Logical argument will be damned as the words of the devil. Opposition of the world will merely unite them more deeply in their fanaticism.

Whatever new conviction they may settle on after a “disappointment” will likely be a super-duper hardcore variation on the same-old same-old broken belief system and the same old actions.

If they gain, or already hold, power over others (which the Millerites blessedly did not), they will use that power more and more ruthlessly to demonize, control, and crush all who fail to bend the knee."

Elsewhere, someone suggested the PTB are so far gone "The only thing left to do at this point is just mock them. It’s the one thing they can’t stand. They love your anger, your envy, your moral indignation. But mockery hurts them."

I'm not so sure. Klause Schwab has cancelled January's WEF Davos. Maybe they are starting to get a clue:

"Reliable sources have confirmed that Klaus Schwab and even attendees have been getting such threats of violence and death that he has postponed Davos in January for the first time, claiming it is due to the pandemic, which is not true. Schwab is, at last, starting to realize that there is a price to his academic theories. There has been an avalanche in Switzerland but it is death threats rather than snow. This sweeping wave of anger is erupting worldwide, and there is no way that security measures can be enacted to protect world leaders. Even the Swiss news outlet Südostschweiz has also reported about the violent threats. Both employees, as well as attendees, have also been targeted personally."

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/worl ... for-davos/
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Budge wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 1:07 pm In fact, if you're vaxxed you may be at greater risk!
A recent study from Britain has found that people over 60 who have been double-vaccinated against cv19 are dying (of all causes) at twice the rate of unvaccinated people. (Source: Office for National Statistics, Great Britain — [email protected])

Interpret this data as you wish.

My pet theory at the current juncture is that pathogenic priming (also euphemistically monikered as ADE - antibody-dependent enhancement, or autoimmune derangement) will continue to play a significant, negative role in the vaccinated.

How might this manifest?

One possible outcome is that countries with the highest vaccination rates will suffer the most as we enter the height of the "common cold/flu" winter season.

The MSM will blame it on the various cv19 mutants, such as the Omicron variant, but the reality will rest in seasonal factors (i.e. higher circulating coronaviruses and influenza viruses during winter), combined with the deranged immunity of the vaccinated population, as a group.

Countries like Africa should do fairly well since its rate of vaccination is low (so far) and it is entering the summer season, when circulating coronaviruses and influenza viruses are less numerous and infectious.

Something to keep an eye on ... the MSM will, of course, blame the deteriorating situation on the Purebloods, as well as on those with Vax Remorse who refuse to receive additional boosters for the new cv19 "mutants."

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A survey conducted in 2017 found between 15% and 20% of respondents on both sides thought the country would be better off if large numbers of the opposing party in the public today “just died.”

https://www.dannyhayes.org/uploads/6/9/ ... lmedit.pdf

Yodean, Astute, Budge, Scott, etc if any of you see fit do so, you can start a new thread on this super trend.

This survey was conducted in 2017 and based on the data we have looked at over the past year we would be willing to state that the number of individuals wishing that members of the other party just drop dead is now close to 30%
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Tobeornot wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:25 am
Greece announced Tuesday that everyone 60 and older must be vaccinated by mid-January or face monthly fines of 100 euros (roughly $114).
Norway bans alcohol :x - surely that is worse? ;)
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/no ... 021-12-13/
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Yodean wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 5:01 pm A recent study from Britain has found that people over 60 who have been double-vaccinated against cv19 are dying (of all causes) at twice the rate of unvaccinated people. (Source: Office for National Statistics, Great Britain — [email protected])
Older people in the UK are much more likely to be double-vaccinated than younger people (especially in the period covered).

The age range of 10-59 is huge (under 60, btw), so it could just be that older people die more than younger people.

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Yodean wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 5:01 pm
Budge wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 1:07 pm In fact, if you're vaxxed you may be at greater risk!
How might this manifest?
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"Here it comes. Here it comes...."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEseb6-hssc

"The World Health Organisation has deployed a rapid response taskforce to South Sudan to investigate a mysterious illness that has left at least 89 people dead.

The ministry of health in South Sudan has reported a fast-spreading illness in the northern town of Fangak, in the Jonglei state, which local scientists haven’t been able to identify."

"South Sudan has been staring at a catastrophic humanitarian crisis as extreme floods hit the country for the third consecutive year.

Humanitarian agencies warned that the situation was threatening to cause an outbreak of waterborne diseases and malaria, and lead to food insecurity and malnutrition.

The flooding has cut off communities from accessing supplies of food and other vital commodities, as more than 700,000 people have been affected by the worst flooding for nearly 60 years.

UN refugee agency UNHCR said climate change was to blame."

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harryg wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 11:30 am
Older people in the UK are much more likely to be double-vaccinated than younger people (especially in the period covered).

The age range of 10-59 is huge (under 60, btw), so it could just be that older people die more than younger people.
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I could be wrong, but my understanding is that in that particular study, the comparison was between the vaxxed vs. the unvaxxed in the _same_ age group.

But hey, I am glad your wife and you are okay ... thus far. :mrgreen:
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SOL wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 6:46 am A survey conducted in 2017 found between 15% and 20% of respondents on both sides thought the country would be better off if large numbers of the opposing party in the public today “just died.”

https://www.dannyhayes.org/uploads/6/9/ ... lmedit.pdf

Yodean, Astute, Budge, Scott, etc if any of you see fit do so, you can start a new thread on this super trend.

This survey was conducted in 2017 and based on the data we have looked at over the past year we would be willing to state that the number of individuals wishing that members of the other party just drop dead is now close to 30%
@Sol: I'll leave this project to others better suited. I am going to try - and likely fail miserably - to keep my political ramblings to a minimum in 2022. It was a bit of a distraction for me in 2020. :lol:

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Yodean wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 3:54 pm I could be wrong, but my understanding is that in that particular study, the comparison was between the vaxxed vs. the unvaxxed in the _same_ age group.
OK so now you made me download the excel file (grrrr. :? ). I reached a different conclusion - but thank you for bringing it to my attention. As you say, we can interpret it how we wish.

Whether or not we believe all these statistics in any case is another matter. English Deputy Prime Minister apparently was on TV claiming 250 hospitalised from Omicron.

Describing the total as a “significant number”, he told Sky News‘ Kay Burley the number of hospitalisations were in “the low hundreds, 250 the last time I looked”.
He added: “But of course the data is being updated all the time.”
Sky News political correspondent Kate McCann later said on the programme: “We understand that Dominic Raab misunderstood or misheard the question. He meant to say there are 10 people in hospital with the Omicron variant.

Deputy Prime Minister ! What a _______ .
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Yodean wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 3:54 pm But hey, I am glad your wife and you are okay ... thus far. :mrgreen:
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SOL wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 6:46 am A survey conducted in 2017 found between 15% and 20% of respondents on both sides thought the country would be better off if large numbers of the opposing party in the public today “just died.”

https://www.dannyhayes.org/uploads/6/9/ ... lmedit.pdf

Yodean, Astute, Budge, Scott, etc if any of you see fit do so, you can start a new thread on this super trend.

This survey was conducted in 2017 and based on the data we have looked at over the past year we would be willing to state that the number of individuals wishing that members of the other party just drop dead is now close to 30%
Like Yo, I discount myself from starting a thread on the topic. Firstly, because I cannot access the link to dannyhayes.org, secondly because I haven't lived in the States for almost 20 years and am somewhat apolitical.

About fascism and covid though, I can relate something. The city of Khabarovsk protested peacefully for months when their governor, whom they liked, was ousted on trumped up charges and the Kremlin appointed their stooge. Khabarovsk is now under lockdown and will be over the holidays. Not because covid is worse there, many think because now they are being punished for their vocal protests.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut_7PQICSmk

I will not be surprised if violence breaks out. New Year is very important to the "Russian Soul" about which they say "Умом не панять" with your mind you cannot understand.
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scott wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:29 am
About fascism and covid though, I can relate something. The city of Khabarovsk protested peacefully for months when their governor, whom they liked, was ousted on trumped up charges and the Kremlin appointed their stooge. Khabarovsk is now under lockdown and will be over the holidays. Not because covid is worse there, many think because now they are being punished for their vocal protests.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut_7PQICSmk

I will not be surprised if violence breaks out. New Year is very important to the "Russian Soul" about which they say "Умом не панять" with your mind you cannot understand.
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