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All oil's that have a low melting point are toxic when you used to fry foods. Olive oil is fantastic when consumed on salads or when poured over food. For example, I love to use olive oil when I slice mozzarella cheese and put a tomato slice and the bottom and top and in the middle one fresh basil leaf. Then I pour olive oil and balsamic vinegar on that combo. When all ingredients are fresh, the taste is to die for

For cooking butter is good as is Coconut and Palm oil both have high melting points. Using any other seed-based oil for frying is akin to liquid chemotherapy

A different take on health benefits of coconut oil. https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/coconut-oil-warning/

[Triplethought]

The last video, very interesting. For olive oil, I didnt know it was toxic when fried. We dont eat a lot of fried food, but we eat olive oil everyday with salads, yes my wife is portugese, and in Portugal its olive oil eveywhere and everyday. I have convinced my wife to use butter for the fried food, and it was hard, but she is OK with me. Thanks for sharing the video.

The video was fascinating, scary, and sounded very authoritative and sciencey. I was curious about their implication that prior to 1900 there wasn't much heart disease. A quick search shows even Egyptian mummies had heart disease.
https://www.healthline.com/health/heart-disease/history

Clearly vegetable oil isn't the only thing leading to heart disease. Now I don't know WHAT to think.

For those using butter to cook I highly recommend clarifying it. Or just buy it if you can find it. I make my own but you could buy ghee if you don't mind the nutty flavor. Essentially popcorn butter or seafood butter is also just clarified butter. It keeps much longer (months) and you can cook at higher temps with it, making it a useful cooking oil. without clarifying you get a lot of burning with butter.

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All oil's that have a low melting point are toxic when you used to fry foods. Olive oil is fantastic when consumed on salads or when poured over food. For example, I love to use olive oil when I slice mozzarella cheese and put a tomato slice and the bottom and top and in the middle one fresh basil leaf. Then I pour olive oil and balsamic vinegar on that combo. When all ingredients are fresh, the taste is to die for

For cooking butter is good as is Coconut and Palm oil both have high melting points. Using any other seed-based oil for frying is akin to liquid chemotherapy

A different take on health benefits of coconut oil. https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/coconut-oil-warning/

That's typical psuedo science. Harvard medical journal first ran an article stating the benefits of coconut oil and then a few years later stated that it was not good. The flawed assumption is that cholesterol is bad for you when it is not. So they use the fact that coconut oil can increase cholesterol levels to demonize it. What is bad is calcification of the arteries and this is caused by calcium being leeched out of the bones and then hardening the arteries.


For those worried about Cholesterol, this study shows that coconut oil raises HDL levels, otherwise known as the Good cholesterol

This open-label, randomized, controlled, crossover trial assessed the effect of daily virgin coconut oil (VCO) consumption on plasma lipoproteins levels and adverse events. The study population was 35 healthy Thai volunteers, aged 18–25. At entry, participants were randomly allocated to receive either (i) 15 mL VCO or (ii) 15 mL 2% carboxymethylcellulose (CMC) solution (as control), twice daily, for 8 weeks. After 8 weeks, participants had an 8-week washout period and then crossed over to take the alternative regimen for 8 weeks. Plasma lipoproteins levels were measured in participants at baseline, week-8, week-16, and week-24 follow-up visits. Results. Of 32 volunteers with complete follow-up (16 males and 16 females), daily VCO intake significantly increased high-density lipoprotein cholesterol by 5.72 mg/dL (p = 0.001) compared to the control regimen. However, there was no difference in the change in total cholesterol, low-density lipoprotein cholesterol, and triglyceride levels between the two regimens. Mild diarrhea was reported by some volunteers when taking VCO, but no serious adverse events were reported. Conclusion. Daily consumption of 30 mL VCO in young healthy adults significantly increased high-density lipoprotein cholesterol. No major safety issues of taking VCO daily for 8 weeks were reported.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5745680/

As one scientist put it, most of today's medical science From the West is garbage or Voodo science

You have to really dig to find anything of value

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The last video, very interesting. For olive oil, I didnt know it was toxic when fried. We dont eat a lot of fried food, but we eat olive oil everyday with salads, yes my wife is portugese, and in Portugal its olive oil eveywhere and everyday. I have convinced my wife to use butter for the fried food, and it was hard, but she is OK with me. Thanks for sharing the video.

Not to inject too much science but olive oil is relatively stable and just fine to fry with. Read the summary

https://actascientific.com/ASNH/pdf/ASNH-02-0083.pdf

Coconut oil is better for cooking for a few simple reasons. It has a higher melting point, not to be confused with a smoke point. It has a specific gravity of 0.927 while olive oil has a specific gravity of 0.7. Hence Coconut oil is 25% denser which means it takes more heat to raise the temp by 1 celsius. I have kept coconut oil out for one month without the lid on and it smelled just as good as day one and did not turn rancid. I love Olive oil, but if had to choose from the two I would choose Coconut oil for frying. For light grilling, I would not mind using Olive oil. It is great on baked garlic and salads. Butter or bet yet clarified butter as you mentioned TTH is also good for frying.

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The last video, very interesting. For olive oil, I didnt know it was toxic when fried. We dont eat a lot of fried food, but we eat olive oil everyday with salads, yes my wife is portugese, and in Portugal its olive oil eveywhere and everyday. I have convinced my wife to use butter for the fried food, and it was hard, but she is OK with me. Thanks for sharing the video.

Not to inject too much science but olive oil is relatively stable and just fine to fry with. Read the summary

https://actascientific.com/ASNH/pdf/ASNH-02-0083.pdf

Coconut oil is better for cooking for a few simple reasons. It has a higher melting point, not to be confused with a smoke point. It has a specific gravity of 0.927 while olive oil has a specific gravity of 0.7. Hence Coconut oil is 25% denser which means it takes more heat to raise the temp by 1 celsius. I have kept coconut oil out for one month without the lid on and it smelled just as good as day one and did not turn rancid. I love Olive oil, but if had to choose from the two I would choose Coconut oil for frying. For light grilling, I would not mind using Olive oil. It is great on baked garlic and salads. Butter or clarified butter as you mentioned TTH is also good for frying.

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Clearly vegetable oil isn't the only thing leading to heart disease. Now I don't know WHAT to think.

Try Incest. many of the Ancient Egyptian Royalty were Married into the same family, there was as a lot of incest going on there. As a result of this, the offspring had more deformities and suffered from a host of health issues.
Additionally, royalty tended to consume a lot of bread.

Some observational studies linked wheat and waist circumference gains - waist circumference being a strong predictor of CHD:

a study showed a correlation between consumption of white bread and waist circumference gains
a study concluded that: “reducing white bread, but not whole-grain bread consumption, within a Mediterranean-style food pattern setting is associated with lower gains in weight and abdominal fat”
a Chinese study found that “vegetable-rich food pattern was associated with higher risk of obesity” but as noted by obesity researcher Stephan Guyenet the association between obesity is in fact stronger with wheat flour than with vegetables
A more pertinent result is found in the data of a large observational study in China. Researchers analysed these data and found a 0.67 correlation between wheat flour intake and CHD. They also found a 0.58 correlation between wheat intake and BMI.

Randomized Controlled Trials on Wheat
In addition to the previous randomized controlled trials comparing wheat with other grains there are two additional studies suggesting that wheat consumption causes CHD.

The first one is a study involving rabbits. While studies involving animals are not always relevant to humans - especially studies with herbivore animals like rabbit - the results of this study are quite interesting.

The researchers fed rabbits an atherogenesis diet (i.e. promoting formation of fatty masses in arterial walls) with a supplement of cottonseed oil, hydrogenated cottonseed oil, wheat germ or sucrose. And as they concluded:

Severity of atherosclerosis after 5 months was greatest on the wheat germ-supplemented diet, whereas there were no differences among the other three groups.

The second study is the Diet And Reinfarction Trial (DART). In this 2-year randomized controlled trial, people who already had recovered from a heart attack were split into groups receiving various advice. The main result of this study was that the group advised to eat fatty fish had a reduction in mortality from CHD.

One other piece of advice - the fibre advice - was:

to eat at least six slices of wholemeal bread per day, or an equivalent amount of cereal fibre from a mixture of wholemeal bread, high-fibre breakfast cereals and wheat bran

Seeing this advice we can guess that most of cereal fibres intake by this group was from wheat although we cannot be sure.

This advice resulted on a 22% death increase:

https://wheat-heart-disease.github.io/


Learn why a noted cardiologist believes wheat is what we really need to whack from our diet in order to shape up.


VITAL STATS

Name: Dr. William Davis
Occupation: Cardiologist, blogger, and writer
Website: www.wheatbellyblog.com

Twenty years ago, William Davis, MD, served on the faculty at Case Western Reserve University and performed morning-'til-night heart procedures. These were the "Wild West" days when angioplasty and related procedures made their way into hospitals, with surgical implements, drills, and ballooning devices serving as the six-shooters.

Dr. Davis knew he also shared risk factors affecting his patients. He heard Dr. Dean Ornish speak at an American College of Cardiology meeting, where Ornish claimed to reverse coronary heart disease with an extreme low-fat diet. So Davis followed suit. He banished meat and added vegetable oils, and relied on "healthy" whole grains. He also began daily 5-mile jogs along the Chagrin River near his Cleveland home.

Much to his chagrin, he gained pounds—30, to be exact. His HDL (healthy cholesterol) fell to 27 mg/dl, his triglycerides soared to 350, and he became diabetic.

Since the biggest change he'd made (besides cutting fat) was bulking up his diet with "healthy whole grains," he slashed his grain intake to nothing. This dietary reversal normalized his numbers: HDL 72 mg/dl, triglycerides below 50 mg/dl, LDL in a safe range of 70 mg/dl (without drugs). He lost the 30 pounds from his abdomen, and his blood sugars fell back into the normal range. He was no longer diabetic.

William Davis
"Cutting wheat products in my diet, in particular, proved the dietary turning point that reduced my appetite, accelerated weight loss, and just helped me feel clearer, more energetic and happier than I'd felt in years," he says.

https://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/agains ... ealth.html

I have been on a wheat free diet now for almost 10 years. The changes I experienced a too many to mention. In short it was the single best thing I ever did

Many people confuse whole grains with veggies. Eating the right veggies can and will reduce your risk of cardiovascular disease.

[AstuteShift]

I eliminate wheat and bread too which is like a sin in balkan land however I refuse to be fat

Replaced most of not all carbs on raw honey and veggies. Energy levels are great compared to previous times

[Budge]

I eliminate wheat and bread too which is like a sin in balkan land however I refuse to be fat

Replaced most of not all carbs on raw honey and veggies. Energy levels are great compared to previous times

Not only fat but diseased.

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I eliminate wheat and bread too which is like a sin in balkan land however I refuse to be fat

Replaced most of not all carbs on raw honey and veggies. Energy levels are great compared to previous times

Not only fat but diseased.

The aim of this communication is to provide some evidence linking the overweight/obesity and their impacts on different dimensions of health. We reviewed the related studies published from 1990 up till now through PubMed Central/Medline, which provide evidence linking obesity with health related issues. It is a risk factor for metabolic disorders and leads to serious health consequences for individuals and burden for the health care system as a whole. Literature search showed that it is related to at least 18 co-morbidities which are attributable to overweight and obesity. Moreover obese individuals more often suffer from significant joint pains, disorders and it also has social as well as psychological impairments. It is high time that countries facing the problems of obesity initiate some intervention measures to monitor and control this growing epidemic.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4386197/

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@STEFk
I must say that working in the garden is a good source of free form exercise. Stress levels are definitely reduced and the sweat clears the up the lymph nodes. It is like an oil change or a flush

Some other benefits of sweating

Sweat often accompanies physical exertion. In many cases, exercise translates into a number of health benefits including:

boosting energy
maintaining healthy weight
defending against many diseases and health conditions
improving mood
promoting good sleep
Heavy metals detox
Although there are differing opinions on detoxification through sweat, a 2016 studyTrusted Source in China indicated that the levels of most heavy metals were lower in those people who exercised regularly.

Heavy metals were found in the sweat and urine with a higher concentration in the sweat, leading to the conclusion that, along with urinating, sweating is a potential method for the elimination of heavy metals.

Chemical elimination
BPA elimination
BPA, or bisphenol A, is an industrial chemical used in the manufacture of certain resins and plastics. According to the Mayo Clinic, exposure to BPA may have possible health effects on the brain and behavior along with a possible link to increased blood pressure.

According to a 2011 studyTrusted Source, sweat is an effective removal route for BPAs as well as a tool for BPA bio-monitoring.

PCB elimination
PCBs, or polychlorinated biphenyls, are man-made organic chemicals that have been demonstrated to cause a number of adverse health effects. A 2013 article in ISRN Toxicology indicated that sweat could have a role in eliminating certain PCBs from the body.

The article also indicated that sweating didn’t appear to help clear the most common perfluorinated compounds (PCBs) found in the human body:

perfluorohexane sulfonate (PFHxS)
perfluorooctanoic acid (PFOA)
perfluorooctane sulfonate (PFOS)
Bacterial cleansing
A 2015 review suggests that the glycoproteins in sweat bind to bacteria, helping removal from the body. The article calls for more research into microbial adhesion in sweat and its impact on skin infections.
https://www.healthline.com/health/sweat ... -cleansing

On a separate note, you can eat pretty much how much you want if you eat good clean foods without additives. For 1 week I consumed almost 600 to 1000 calories extra and did not gain one ounce of weight. Might need others to try this. All the foods I ate were pure and it included ice cream (but real ice cream), heavy sour cream, volumes of honey, veggies, lamb etc.

[Yodean]

Some other benefits of sweating

Sweat often accompanies physical exertion. In many cases, exercise translates into a number of health benefits including:

Yeh, sweating's good, lots of benefits.

Besides inducing sweating through exercise, one may use the sauna. Lots of half-decent studies on the benefits of regular sauna use from the various Northern European countries, including several demonstrating a significant reduction in heart attack frequency. I won't post the links - those who are interested will do their own due diligence, I am sure.

Besides inducing sweating, sauna use may also lead to significant upregulation of "heat shock" proteins, which may lead to several benefits. Here's a link to get those interested started:

https://www.focusperformance.co.uk/blog ... k-proteins

What's interesting is that "cold exposure" therapy/training also leads to similar but somewhat different benefits. This type of training may lead to the upregulation of "cold shock" proteins, which are also beneficial for a variety of reasons. Cold exposure also "exercises" the peripheral venous vasculature, which ultimately results in more resilient cardiovascular functioning.

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For years - apart from the lockdown periods when the sauna room in my building was closed - I have combined heat and cold training in various ways. There is enough room for me to shadowbox and do some bodyweight exercises in the sauna room, so I will often do this at the max. heat settings. I also monitor my heart rate and oxygen saturation with a oxygen-sat. monitor, and when training in the sauna in this way, I can get my heart rate really high quickly and train at the extreme zones. You also sweat profusely.

So sauna training in this way combines the benefits of exercise, profuse sweating, and the induction of increased "heat shock" proteins, etc. (there may be others, like increasing growth hormone production in some) at the same time. Pretty powerful. When I reach the perceived limit of what I can handle, I'll take a cold shower before returning to the sauna room for more training. In the winter, I'll step outside to the nearby open terrace in my shorts after the sauna and lay on the snow or ice and practice some type of Breathwork - combining "cold exposure" training with Breathwork and usually some type of Death Meditation (very easy to do laying prone only in shorts in the depths of the Canadian winter, since you feel like you're dying).

I call this type of training FITON ("Fire and Ice Training of the Ninjedi") - been doing it for years. Besides intermittent fasting, I credit FITON with my generally superb health over the years - I rarely get sick with colds or flu-like illnesses, etc., and on most common measures of functional physical strength, speed, endurance, flexibility, etc., I like my chances against most healthy North American 20-year-olds (a.k.a. mostly Snowflake P*ssies).

Random fact #1: the U.S. Special Forces, prior to deploying a unit to a particularly hot region of the world to do DeepState B.S., will train that unit for two weeks or so in artifically-induced hot and humid conditions.

Random fact #2: the O.G. parents of children from the former U.S.S.R., Siberia, and some other countries would often put their toddlers with minimal clothing out in the cold for a few minutes or longer to build their cold tolerance and to optimize their immune systems.