Experience with covid vaccine

[ksun80]

Hi everyone, I have been a long-time follower of tactical investor. I just wanted to give my experience with the Moderna vaccine. I am one of the unfortunate people who had myocarditis after taking the Moderna vaccine. My troponin level came back a few days ago highly elevated but the rest of my blood work came in absolutely clean. I am in my early 30s. I have been in perfect health up until I got the vaccine and now I have chest discomfort on a daily basis. While I am not a physician, I did go through pharmacy school and know that I do need to refrain from rigorous exercise for 3-6 months.

I took Sol's suggestion from past TI issues regarding vitamin supplements and have been regularly taking vitamin A/C/D/B complex, olive leaf extract, and zinc. I even bought shilajit from Amazon and took a suggestion on TI's website on self-testing for blood work as you can see from the screenshot below.



I was wondering if anyone or Sol can comment on these two questions:

1. Do you have any suggestions on anything that may help with vaccine-mediated myocarditis?
2. Where do you recommend getting methylene blue?

Thank you everyone and I hope we can all steer clear from the Covid hysteria.

[AstuteShift]

First I want to say I’m sorry this happened to you and hope for a speedy recovery

Another is, you should be checked by heart specialist. They need to see if your heart function decreased and whether you need cardiac tests and meds. Go see a cardiologist please so they can properly diagnose and treat you. The fact you still have chest pain is worrisome.

[ksun80]

First I want to say I’m sorry this happened to you and hope for a speedy recovery

Another is, you should be checked by heart specialist. They need to see if your heart function decreased and whether you need cardiac tests and meds. Go see a cardiologist please so they can properly diagnose and treat you. The fact you still have chest pain is worrisome.

Thank you. I am planning to see a cardiologist but I am only working part-time (paying off my school debt) and do not have insurance. I know health comes first but there's a lot for me to juggle currently. The fact that I rarely hear about these cases on the news also infuriates me. Safety always comes before efficacy. I do not do drugs, do not smoke, am not obese, and rarely drink alcohol. If I get this major adverse event, how many others could have contracted it?

[Budge]

First I want to say I’m sorry this happened to you and hope for a speedy recovery

Another is, you should be checked by heart specialist. They need to see if your heart function decreased and whether you need cardiac tests and meds. Go see a cardiologist please so they can properly diagnose and treat you. The fact you still have chest pain is worrisome.

Thank you. I am planning to see a cardiologist but I am only working part-time (paying off my school debt) and do not have insurance. I know health comes first but there's a lot for me to juggle currently. The fact that I rarely hear about these cases on the news also infuriates me. Safety always comes before efficacy. I do not do drugs, do not smoke, am not obese, and rarely drink alcohol. If I get this major adverse event, how many others could have contracted it?

I echo Astute's comments. Couple of points. Was the vax voluntary or were you coerced by employer?
Working part time, do you earn too much for medicaid?

[ksun80]

First I want to say I’m sorry this happened to you and hope for a speedy recovery

Another is, you should be checked by heart specialist. They need to see if your heart function decreased and whether you need cardiac tests and meds. Go see a cardiologist please so they can properly diagnose and treat you. The fact you still have chest pain is worrisome.

Thank you. I am planning to see a cardiologist but I am only working part-time (paying off my school debt) and do not have insurance. I know health comes first but there's a lot for me to juggle currently. The fact that I rarely hear about these cases on the news also infuriates me. Safety always comes before efficacy. I do not do drugs, do not smoke, am not obese, and rarely drink alcohol. If I get this major adverse event, how many others could have contracted it?

I echo Astute's comments. Couple of points. Was the vax voluntary or were you coerced by employer?
Working part time, do you earn too much for medicaid?

Ironically, I was afraid of getting the vaccine for the longest time. I know vaccines typically take 5-7 years to develop. But my parents actually convinced me to get it. Yes, I earn too much for Medicaid.

[Budge]

Thank you. I am planning to see a cardiologist but I am only working part-time (paying off my school debt) and do not have insurance. I know health comes first but there's a lot for me to juggle currently. The fact that I rarely hear about these cases on the news also infuriates me. Safety always comes before efficacy. I do not do drugs, do not smoke, am not obese, and rarely drink alcohol. If I get this major adverse event, how many others could have contracted it?

I echo Astute's comments. Couple of points. Was the vax voluntary or were you coerced by employer?
Working part time, do you earn too much for medicaid?

Ironically, I was afraid of getting the vaccine for the longest time. I know vaccines typically take 5-7 years to develop. But my parents actually convinced me to get it. Yes, I earn too much for Medicaid.

Damn! Too late to change parents! Explain your circumstances to the cardiologist and see if you can cut a deal. Most are understanding. All the very best.

[SOL]

I use Kordon's Methylene blue and I also use pharmaceutical grade MB, while the latter is usually triple the price of the former I have not noticed any difference between the two. When sick I take up to 10 drops of pure Kordon's Methylene blue or its equivalent each drop has about 1.3mg of MB. Under normal conditions, I dilute the MB down to 0,1% so in the case of Kordon's as the concentration is 2.3%. I dilute each spoon or shot glass with 23 spoons/shot glasses of water and then from that mixture I put 60-90 drops into a glass of water and drink it.

As you don't have insurance you can try these guys. Someone said they are pretty good. For example, you can save quite a bit on taking an EKG which I suspect would be the first step to determining heart health

https://www.talktomira.com/

Here is a write up of this company. For a monthly fee, they provided discount rates on a huge variety of medical services

https://www.talktomira.com/post/how-muc ... rgent-care


I think there are probably other services that offer similar benefits


Here is another option for 15 bucks a month you get free access to a doctor. You can call a dr for free, they help you find the best insurance plans. They also have faith-based plans, alternative medicine plans, and a host of other features. Maybe you can find a good short term plan there. I think with MIRA and this plan you should be in a position to get the attention you need at a discounted rate

https://www.takecommandhealth.com/membership

[ksun80]

I use Kordon's Methylene blue and I also use pharmaceutical grade MB, while the latter is usually triple the price of the former I have not noticed any difference between the two. When sick I take up to 10 drops of pure Kordon's Methylene blue or its equivalent each drop has about 1.3mg of MB. Under normal conditions, I dilute the MB down to 0,1% so in the case of Kordon's as the concentration is 2.3%. I dilute each spoon or shot glass with 23 spoons/shot glasses of water and then from that mixture I put 60-90 drops into a glass of water and drink it.

As you don't have insurance you can try these guys. Someone said they are pretty good. For example, you can save quite a bit on taking an EKG which I suspect would be the first step to determining heart health

https://www.talktomira.com/

Here is a write up of this company. For a monthly fee, they provided discount rates on a huge variety of medical services

https://www.talktomira.com/post/how-muc ... rgent-care


I think there are probably other services that offer similar benefits


Here is another option for 15 bucks a month you get free access to a doctor. You can call a dr for free, they help you find the best insurance plans. They also have faith-based plans, alternative medicine plans, and a host of other features. Maybe you can find a good short term plan there. I think with MIRA and this plan you should be in a position to get the attention you need at a discounted rate

https://www.takecommandhealth.com/membership

Thank you Sol for taking the time to reply to the topic! I will utilize these resources and come back with an update.

[MarkD]

JNJ putting the need for a covid booster squarely on Fauci's desk. Their own research does not seem to justify a booster shot for most.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/05/health/j ... index.html

[AstuteShift]

JNJ putting the need for a covid booster squarely on Fauci's desk. Their own research does not seem to justify a booster shot for most.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/05/health/j ... index.html

The trend for Covid related nonsense seems to be dying down however we all know 2022 and beyond that more and more nonsense will come, be prepared for the juicy opportunities

[Eric]

That sucks. This time will eventually be judged by history to be as barbaric as the holocaust. COVID is a lot of things, but dangerous and untreatable it is not.

There was a poll that indicated something like 2% of democrats were able to correctly identify that only about 1% of COVID cases require hospitalization (I don't think it was in the poll, but only about 1% of hospitalizations BECAUSE OF COVID result in death). I think the overall number was that people think COVID is 65x more dangerous than it really is and that democrats are dramatically more scared of COVID than republicans are.

The "vaccines" however are dangerous and they're not actually vaccines in the classical sense; over the last several years the WHO and CDC have been changing the definition of "vaccine"...look it up.

It's anecdotal, but the head nurse in our local emergency department was talking to a friend that works in the OB department of a major metro hospital and found out miscarriages are up 600% at that hospital in 2021 vs previous years.

It's criminal that (anyone, but ESPECIALLY) people under 65 are being coerced into or forced into taking these shots when according to the CDC's own numbers 93% of "COVID deaths" are people 65 and older.

[Eric]

Also, realize that the "vaccines" (therapeutics at best) were only given "emergency use authorization" because "there is no other effective treatment for COVID". If Nobel prize winning $20/course of treatment drugs with long proven safety records were RECOGNIZED as effective treatments for COVID the EUA would have been voided. All the things that COVID had been so useful for never would have come to fruition.

[Yodean]

1. Do you have any suggestions on anything that may help with vaccine-mediated myocarditis?

Wrt to vaccine-induced myocarditis, as mentioned by others, you should get checked out by a cardiologist.

Most cases in young, healthy patients like yourself do very well with conservative therapy (rest), but when it involves the heart, you can't be too careful. In a few years, whatever exorbitant amount of money you are forced to pay to get checked out properly won't mean anything, and besides, you'll likely be rich if you continue to follow the TI way of investing.

Rare effects of vaccine-induced myocarditis include dysrhythmias and significant myocardial damage, although these are less likely in your case given that some time has passed since you initially developed symptoms and you are well enough to get on this forum to type.

Initial treatment often includes some combination of ASA, +/- beta blocker if there is evidence of systolic or diastolic dysfunction (I am assuming you understand all these terms given your pharm. background), and in severe cases, prednisone or prednisolone. If it's really bad, you are admitted to hospital and monitored on telemetry for some time. NSAIDs are also sometimes used in cases when patients are fairly healthy and don't have co-morbidities like pre-existing renal damage or severe hypertension, etc. (as you know, NSAIDs often worsen those conditions).

On a different note, I generally don't recommend you try any new supplements in the setting of a new, acute diagnosis of any sort. It muddies the picture . . . generally, if you want to try a new supplement, wait until you're back to your "baseline" of health, whatever that may be. Supplements may be very helpful if used properly, but they carry their own risks, as I am sure you are aware.

You may find this article interesting:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8270733/

P.S. Never, never, ever, listen to your parents, except in rare cases when they make sense. So, like, never.

[Eric]

P.S. Never, never, ever, listen to your parents, except in rare cases when they make sense. So, like, never.

Literally the first time I ever listened to my dad in my entire life was when he told me buying $50,000 worth of Google IPO was a horrible idea. Years later he was bragging to me that he purchased Google at only $700...

[ksun80]

Thanks, everyone. Quick update -

I signed up for both Mira and Take Command Health. Both are processing my requests. In the meantime, I am feeling slightly better. I am a runner and actively compete in 5k or 10k, but I have stopped all strenuous activity and have resorted to walks. I have also stopped all caffeine and increased my fruits and vegetable intake. Also watching the amount of salt in my diet. Definitely would not take NSAIDs due to risks associated with the heart. Plus, they are only for symptom relief. I'm still taking a multivitamin to help with my immunity.

And I know... for the longest time, I did not get the vaccine, and I refused to even though I am pro-vaccine. We do not have enough evidence for a rushed vaccine in terms of long-term effects. So I waited over a half year and didn't hear much on the "news" in terms of side effects, so I was convinced to get it. By the way, now we are hearing that Sweden, Denmark, and Finland are pausing the Moderna vaccine due to myocarditis in young adults. Doh. I'll move past it. Now focusing on getting better.