Life extension theraphies and more

[stefk]

Wow, 120 pushups in a row, not everybody can do it !!!!!! you have a good basis to try the sapate ( dands with baithak). Sure you can do 50 sapate in a row, and maybe later 100 per sequence. Try it, it trains the shoulders, the arms, the quads and the glutes. It will give you a beautiful male physique, a physique with "go muscles" and not "show muscles". A physique ready for a fight in case of. This exercice can be a full workout. Better to do it outside with good pure air, shirtless and barechested in the sun. Women will turn their head at you !!!!!!!!

[langdj]

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[langdj]

Sol, do you really attempt to do 100 pushups ? In one time ? if you really want to spend time and energy for pushups, forget the conventional western pushups. this is a poor exercice, with poor range of motion. Go better for the hindu push ups or dands. This exercice comes from planet India, and is a staple for the kushti wrestlers. They mix it with a squat or baithak. There is good range of motion, and you feel more the "flow" with a good breathing.

Yes, I attempt many times i can get over 100, as high as 120, sometimes if I am tired it is around 80. However, it is not the Hindu pushup. I am sure if I try these pushups, I will be lucky to hit 40 to 50. However, they do appear to be far superior.

As for vegans, note how powerful the Gorilla, it's ripped and its diet is entirely vegan if I am not mistaken

While Gorillas do eat bugs they are primarily ruminants. One thing to consider with Gorillas use FAT for energy. Thats right! They have big pot bellies and bacteria which ferment their food into Butyrate (like the stuff found in Butter) This is similar to cows and lambs. We have no such mechanisms that can be run at scale as we digest most of our nutrients in the small intestine (no fermentation there). Twigs / grass type stuff found in the real world would just stop us from starving until we found bio-available fat / protein sources

[SOL]

While Gorillas do eat bugs they are primarily ruminants. One thing to consider with Gorillas use FAT for energy. Thats right! They have big pot bellies and bacteria which ferment their food into Butyrate (like the stuff found in Butter) This is similar to cows and lambs. We have no such mechanisms that can be run at scale as we digest most of our nutrients in the small intestine (no fermentation there). Twigs / grass type stuff found in the real world would just stop us from starving until we found bio-available fat / protein sources

Thank you for the interesting information. I had no idea that Gorillas used Fat for energy. I was certainly not aware of the fermentation process that leads to the production of butyrate. But is this what gives them their muscular definition

[stefk]

The world is full of interesting people and interesting traditions.

ZURKHANEH is a multi millenar physical tradition in Persia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM0824iD5r4

at minute 4, you have another form of pushups, for you Sol, the pushups champ.

at minue 16, you have a fantastic session of meels, the persian clubbells. There is a little friendly rivality between Persia and India, for the origin of the clubbells.

[Yodean]

at minute 4, you have another form of pushups, for you Sol, the pushups champ.

Once one is able to do 100+ conventional Level 3 push-ups in a single go, one is then almost ready to progress to the Level 4 push-up:

https://youtu.be/JlQfBg3VJJU

[stefk]

Which style of martial art did Bruce Lee practice ? was it a shaolin style ? I think he didnt speak mandarin and never went in China. Are there shaolin temples in Hong Kong and in Taiwan ?

[scott]

Which style of martial art did Bruce Lee practice ? was it a shaolin style ? I think he didnt speak mandarin and never went in China. Are there shaolin temples in Hong Kong and in Taiwan ?

It's my understanding he studied many, choosing aspects that suited him, and formed his own style. Bruce (and or others) called it Jeet Kune Do.

[Budge]

Which style of martial art did Bruce Lee practice ? was it a shaolin style ? I think he didnt speak mandarin and never went in China. Are there shaolin temples in Hong Kong and in Taiwan ?

While Lee lived in Hong Kong he learned Wing Chun Kung Fu from Grandmaster Ip Man.

Wing Chun is reputed to be the only martial art style founded by a woman:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Wing_Chun

[Yodean]

Which style of martial art did Bruce Lee practice ? was it a shaolin style ? I think he didnt speak mandarin and never went in China. Are there shaolin temples in Hong Kong and in Taiwan ?

Bruce was the first true MMA (Mixed Martial Arts) practitioner. His original base of training was Wing Chun (the IP Man taught him a little bit - lots of Hollywood movies about this, very overblown - just a way to make money off Bruce). He grew up in HK, for the most part.

In high school, he was a terrible student academically, but he did win a local Tango contest. Dancing at the highest levels has some profound similarities to martial arts, when practiced at the highest levels. Few talk about his dancing background, but I feel it was important to his eventual development.

What separated Bruce from other kung-fu masters was that he didn't constrain himself to the ideology of a single martial tradition - i.e. Wing Chun masters didn't know how to wrestle or grapple, or fight on the ground, for example.

Bruce didn't believe in the whole "my kung-fu style is better than yours" thing prevalent at that time, etc. . . . instead, he studied pretty much every fighting style available at that time (including Greco-Roman wrestling, Western boxing, Muay Thai, Tae Kwon Do, Shaolin, Karate, etc.), and took the bits and pieces he liked, and put them together in a unique way.

He invented Jeet Kune Do - roughly translated, "Way of the Intercepting Fist." It was a mix of everything he learned from all the other martial arts, with his own unique contributions. For example, in most of the traditional martial arts, emphasis is given to striking at critical, weak points (head, throat, eyes, neck, solar plexus, groin, etc.) of your opponents - nothing wrong with this, it works - but if you're facing another master, she will protect those areas well.

Jeet Kune Do taught how to take away your opponents weapons instantly - so for example, instead of just going for the traditional weak points, you place a premium on attacking your opponent's weapons. So when she throws a punch at your face, you move out of the way, and then you strike to break her forearm or wrist. Low kicks to the knee, foot stomps (to take away your opponent's kicking ability and mobility), elbows anywhere, etc. Fighting "dirty," in a sense.

Krav Maga (Israeli martial arts), of which I have intermediate proficiency, draws heavily on the some of the principles of Jeet Kune Do (the Krav Maga teachers won't say this publicly, but if you get to know them, they all admire Bruce and understand Jeet Kune Do).

Bruce grew up in HK (parents born in China), and most who grow up in HK speak both Mandarin and Cantonese.

[Budge]

at minute 4, you have another form of pushups, for you Sol, the pushups champ.

Once one is able to do 100+ conventional Level 3 push-ups in a single go, one is then almost ready to progress to the Level 4 push-up:

https://youtu.be/JlQfBg3VJJU

He once said he'd never let work get in the way of training. In his case, one and the same.

[Triplethought]

Why not work backwards? Check the oldest living persons and see what their diet and health regime is or was. It seems to me all this honey, special diet, supplements, and standing on your head bullshit should be undertaken after checking with 100 plus year olds and confirming that's what they do/did. Otherwise you guys are just masterbating

I am sure you know this, but even if one does what you say, the data acquired doesn't help that much - "survivorship bias," "correlation does not equal causation," etc. I am sure you know what I am getting at here.

And you're assuming I'm doing all this kind of stuff for longevity - others may be, but not me.

Basically, I do all this stuff because I find it enjoyable - I simply enjoy life more when I train in certain ways, both physically and mentally. I feel and think better when I keep myself in shape and acquire new mental and physical skills. And if you've been training consistently for decades like I have, you sort of need to change up your training regimens on a regular basis to keep it fresh and fun.

To me, the "Ultimate Divine Skill" (UDS) is to maximize your enjoyment of each moment of your life. One may practice it at any time, anywhere - it's accessible to everybody.

Since you like to quantify data and avoid "woo woo New Age bogus," I will illustrate how to improve the UDS in a practical manner. Let's say in this particular moment, you are pretty happy - for example, you happen to be prodding Sol about something - you give how you feel this moment a subjective numerical value, like 65%happy/35%unhappy.

Then the goal of UDS is to improve that rating a bit, by doing something with your mind (i.e. recontextualizing or changing how you view that particular situation) or your body (e.g. taking some deep breaths, putting yourself in a better posture, taking a shot of vodka), so the "happy" score goes up.

It works for "negative situations," too. For example, let's say your Zillow holdings continue to crater, and the red number besides that asset grows bigger and bigger. So when you look at it, you experience 10%happy/90%unhappy. You can still apply UDS in this context - the goal is to simply increase the "happy" score a bit and decrease the "unhappy" score. You win even if it's a "1%" difference.

The ultimate manifestation of UDS is to be able to face your death in the next moment with a balanced score. Lifetime of training and practice, this.

Anyhow, to me, all the training, supplements, etc. is really to improve my UDS as much as possible. Longevity actually means very little to me - when the Universe wants me to leave this plane, I plan to be at peace with that moment, whenever it might be.

Driving harder and faster uses the calories and thus the body up faster. Not a perfect analogy as the body regenerates (whereas a car doesn't) but it does draw in the research suggesting a starvation diet could be one secret to longer life. (although arguably not as happy).

[Triplethought]

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Bruce Lee, the mentor of Yodean, adopted the dands and baithaks for his daily training !!!!!!!

if indeed Bruce Lee died from a reaction to Equagesic (muscle relaxant) it could be argued that his training regimen induced sufficient muscle or other pain that he took too much of the drug. So over exercising may have indirectly killed him.

Which is why I like the saying all things in moderation....including moderation.

[stefk]

For triplethought, a good meta analysis, they found a relation between grip strength and cardiovascular diseases

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6778477/

""They determined that grip strength was a more powerful predictor of cardiovascular mortality (hazard ratio 1.17) than systolic blood pressure. They also found grip strength to be associated with all-cause mortality (hazard ratio 1.16), myocardial infarction (hazard ratio 1.07), and stroke (hazard ratio 1.09).""

Personnaly, I find it cool to have a good grip strength. For the grip, there is not better than a good training with persian meels.

[stefk]

https://www.theoctobersky.com/the-forgo ... s-follower

Bruce Lee, the mentor of Yodean, adopted the dands and baithaks for his daily training !!!!!!!

if indeed Bruce Lee died from a reaction to Equagesic (muscle relaxant) it could be argued that his training regimen induced sufficient muscle or other pain that he took too much of the drug. So over exercising may have indirectly killed him.

Which is why I like the saying all things in moderation....including moderation.

Bruce Lee was not a shaolin monk, and maybe he didnt include qigong in his training. Kung fu training is very hard, its yang, therefore the shaolin monks practice a lot of qigong, its yin.