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Socarates Did not like Democracy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLJBzhcSWTk


Plato also viewed it through a negative lens

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0au4gWNauwI



A simple video that illustrates why democracy does not work

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Er1cuQCt-o
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SOL wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:13 pm
Let's face it, all forms of government are corrupt because they involve human beings. Athenian democracy is not what we'd consider democracy. Only 20% of the population were considered citizens and able to vote. Hmmm, come to think of it, maybe not such a bad system: both parents Athenian, no vote until >20, women, slaves and foreigners were non-citizens! :lol: :lol:
..whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government..
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https://philosophy-models.blog/2019/01/ ... -republic/

The ideal state for Plato, kallipolis, was an aristocratic state based on reason and philosopher king. Three classes, the guardians, the auxiliaries and the producers. The guardians have always the power.

For him, democraty is the fourth system and lets eventually place to tyranny. For Plato, in order of preference

1) aristocraty
2) timocraty
3) oligarchie
4) democraty
5) tyrany
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Budge wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:07 pm
SOL wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:13 pm
Let's face it, all forms of government are corrupt because they involve human beings. Athenian democracy is not what we'd consider democracy. Only 20% of the population were considered citizens and able to vote. Hmmm, come to think of it, maybe not such a bad system: both parents Athenian, no vote until >20, women, slaves and foreigners were non-citizens! :lol: :lol:
The Athenians compared themselves with other greek states or other civilizations. In comparaison with Sparta, Athens was democratic, in comparaison with Persia, Athens was an advanced democraty, and they were proud of their democratic institutions.
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"" GNOTHI SEOUTON""" know thyself, was written on the temple of Delphi.

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Interesting take on replacing Politicians

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyGWML6cI_k
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Thank god we Amerikans live in an Oligarchy. I feel better now... :o
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MarkD wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:30 pm Thank god we Amerikans live in an Oligarchy. I feel better now... :o
But I think we're about to jump/drop the Ancient Greek Barriers here in the Modern US, going from Oligarchy straight to Tyranny with no intervening Democracy. You'll feel even better then (or rather you'll do what you're told).
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SOL wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 6:57 am Interesting take on replacing Politicians

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyGWML6cI_k
Wow.. I mean this guy has the best intentions for this idea to work but I can already see the problems associated with something like this. Whoever controls the software controls everything I guess..
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Budge wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:00 pm
MarkD wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:30 pm Thank god we Amerikans live in an Oligarchy. I feel better now... :o
But I think we're about to jump/drop the Ancient Greek Barriers here in the Modern US, going from Oligarchy straight to Tyranny with no intervening Democracy. You'll feel even better then (or rather you'll do what you're told).

http://prsinstitute.org/downloads/relat ... lCycle.pdf

The theory of the social cycles comes from an hindouist point of view. It is not so far as the plato s theory.

Life is a dynamic principle and the movement of the social cycle continues without any break or pause, and further cannot be checked as stagnation implies death3.The direction of the social cyclethrough time is determined by how the classes struggle with their environment. Sarkar imagines this cycle as rotating between worker (or brute, chaotic)power, warrior (or expansionist)power,ideational (or rule of priests or technocrats)power and capital (capitalism)power. Each epochtransforms the social conditions of the previous era. The social cycle in itself cannot be transformed, that is a perfect society is not possible, only a good society where periods of exploitation graduallydecrease.
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-2-minutes:

https://youtu.be/nNAb5OxeorE

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bpcw wrote: Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:54 pm Proud of these Americans!
There is a word for a nurse who works with Covid patients who doesn't get the vaccine. "Dumbass"

Have you seen the demonstrations of people putting magnets on their shoulders? Comically ignorant of science.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bDSz6DsIq8
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Triplethought wrote: Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:33 pm
bpcw wrote: Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:54 pm Proud of these Americans!
There is a word for a nurse who works with Covid patients who doesn't get the vaccine. "Dumbass"

Have you seen the demonstrations of people putting magnets on their shoulders? Comically ignorant of science.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bDSz6DsIq8
Interesting reaction. In this case, would you see yourself outside of Plato's cave or still in it?
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