The Police State Is almost here

[stefk]

I wanna be a nomad capitalist, have several passports and what the heck with nationalism...

You consider a country like an hotel?

[davepanja]

I wanna be a nomad capitalist, have several passports and what the heck with nationalism...

You consider a country like an hotel?

I consider bringing job opportunities, social benefit and my contribution to several countries instead of traditionally just stuck in one country. For example in 2017, I sold my house in my home country and I rent where I live.
I became a nomad, homeless, but I have freedom to move around where I wanna live.

In 2018-2019, I used that money from my house selling and profit taking from my mining stocks portfolio, to buy an apartment in Australia and a commercial plot in another city in Indonesia. I turned those properties into my rental income. Becoming a nomad, I could bring positive contribution into Australian and Indonesian property market at the same time, and protecting our wealth with income in several currencies ( AUD and IDR ) with diversification strategy.

Because we cant predict the future political and economic stability in one country, look what has happened in Argentina, Chile and Turkey when their currencies became worthless because of economic and political turmoil.

[Yodean]

I consider bringing job opportunities, social benefit and my contribution to several countries instead of traditionally just stuck in one country. For example in 2017, I sold my house in my home country and I rent where I live.
I became a nomad, homeless, but I have freedom to move around where I wanna live.

I think this is becoming a slowly growing trend - the rise of the Digital Nomad (DN). A good one, at least through my current filters.

Clooney's _Up in the Air_ was a bit ahead of its time, perhaps.

If you think about it, "national pride," the whole concept of "countries," national boundaries," etc. are artificial filters used throughout history to polarize masses into war, revolutions, "us against them"-type scenarios, etc. while the Top Players (TPs) rake in the cash as well as power.

I remember early in the cv19 plandemic there was this mainstream idea of identifying who was in your "bubble" - i.e. a certain number of contacts or households you were "allowed" to spend time with.

When some of my friends asked me who was in my "bubble," I answered, "the whole earth is my bubble."

In any case, I would think the more DNs there are, the better - DNs, from what I have seen thus far, tend to be more creative, independent, free-thinkers - a much-needed commodity against the growing authoritarian trend in the West.

From a historical perspective, DNs vs. TPs (who generally would appear to exercise their powers through top-of-the-food-chain structures like central banks, governments, mainstream media) could be seen as yet another subtle manifestation of the eternal struggle of the Individual against Collectivism.

[stefk]

and what the heck with nationalism...

The problem with the cosmopolitans is their habit to spit at nationalism. Whats their problem with nationalism? They say the borders is a thing of the past. I think that a good border makes a country safer. In the history, the nomads didnt create great civilizations, they always lived of razzias and from the work of sedentaries. The nomads now are at search of good and stable countries, like Australia, they dont go in Sierra Leone or Congo or Malawy. The nomads now are at search of countries with good food, and who produces the food? the farmers, the good old farms, a thing of the past, with fences, a thing of the past. And when the nomads come back at home or at the hotel, they shut the door, an awful thing of the past, and to protect their family if they have one, they set the alarm, a mini version of the borders....

Why are they spitting at nations and nationalism ?

[davepanja]

"the nomads didnt create great civilizations, they always lived of razzias and from the work of sedentaries.."

As my ancestor came from Northern China, I can relate to this.. Northern China is the melting pot of sedentary peasant society with northern nomad people, through dynamic integration of peace and conflict times for more than 1000 years. In ancient times the sedentary society looked down on nomads ( the Xianbei/proto-Mongol, Manchu, Xiongnu, Jurchen,etc ) because they didn't have sophistication in culture, even many didn't have their own writing system and depending on raid and plunder from sedentary people or become mercenaries.
That's why the nomads are called "northern barbarians" in ancient times. In the end the northern nomads absorbed into mainstream "civilized" sedentary people

Why are they spitting at nations and nationalism ?

Nationalism is good if you live in a safe-stable, secular meritocratic, egalitarian society with a good governance country. However if you have ever live in a third world feudalism society, ridden with corruption and cronyism, a never-ending political struggle between secular nationalist vs fanatic religious fundamentalism, you will not "put all your eggs in one basket". Especially if you belong to an ethnic minority who could be a easy scapegoat target in political or economic crisis.

As Yodean said before, Digital Nomad tends to have creative, libertarian spirit against tyrannical government or the oppresive taxation.

I think being a digital nomad is one way of expressing our "contrarian spirit" without being "a barbarian" but a cosmopolitan person.

[SOL]

Many in the west are unfamillar with the currency risks and stability risks poised in living in developing or third world countries. From an observer perspective, an attachment to any given perspective is a disadvantage as it prevents one from following the trend. Having said that the trend suggests that corrupt nations are slowly moving towards a free market system, while most western based societies are happily embracing socialism/communist based ideas. Think of all the money the US is printing to help the so-called helpless individuals. There are no free meals and free meals tend to cost 3x and up to 10X more than a meal that is paid for.

The trend suggests that South East Asia, which Indonesia is part of, will do well in the years to come. Let's see if our trend projections are valid. In the short to intermediate terms, the Indonesian Rupiah could test the 17K ranges again.

All the digital nomads or warriors I have met over the years are some of the easiest going and adaptive individuals I have met. The digital nomad trend is going to gain traction and then explode in the years to come.

[stefk]

the digial nomads or the cosmopolitans are not so open mind as they think. It is all what I meant in my post.

I also note that the minorities are proud of their ancestors and their traditions, I find it very good. But why dont we, the sedentaries, the closed minds, the dummies dont have the same rights to be proud of our history? Everywhere in Europe, our history and traditions are revised and denied.

[stefk]

Davepanja, do you practice qi gong? My best memory with chinese guys and women, is an improvised qigong session with them in a park in Brussels......

[SOL]

the digial nomads or the cosmopolitans are not so open mind as they think. It is all what I meant in my post.

I also note that the minorities are proud of their ancestors and their traditions, I find it very good. But why dont we, the sedentaries, the closed minds, the dummies dont have the same rights to be proud of our history? Everywhere in Europe, our history and traditions are revised and denied.

I believe individuals should respect the traditions of the country they are entering as guests. However, today's western-based governments seem eager to throw their citizens under the bus. I would not dream of going to Belgium or Italy and imposing my rules. I would be prepared to accept and embrace the traditions of the nation that was hosting me. I understand from an MP perspective why the governments are doing this ( I disagree with the way they are using MP but there is nothing I can do about that), the idea is to polarise the population so that while the populace focuses on this issue, the governments rob them blindly via higher taxes, and silly concepts such as carbon credits, abusing the global warming story to push rules and regulations that only benefit them and the list is endless.

This is why the Alt-right as the press loves to call them will continue to gain traction. Nothing moves in a straight line, so while it appears that things are calming down, it's just a base-forming before the next leg up.

From what I have seen most digital nomads respect the country that is hosting them and tend to adhere to the rules of that nation. The problem is when individuals that cannot contribute or do not want to contribute are allowed in and provided with ample opportunities to milk the system while the citizens of that nation have to toil for a living.

[davepanja]

the digial nomads or the cosmopolitans are not so open mind as they think. It is all what I meant in my post.

I also note that the minorities are proud of their ancestors and their traditions, I find it very good. But why dont we, the sedentaries, the closed minds, the dummies dont have the same rights to be proud of our history? Everywhere in Europe, our history and traditions are revised and denied.

As an European, you should be proud of your rich history and achievements...

European with her unique judeo-christian values, especially the western Europe laid the foundation for modern

civilization for the last 250 years.

[davepanja]

Davepanja, do you practice qi gong? My best memory with chinese guys and women, is an improvised qigong session with them in a park in Brussels......

My mom is practicing qi gong, some says it could bring healing effect to the body, turning workout

into "moving" meditation, calming effect and enhancing our mental visualization..

However I have never tried it, because I prefer more aggresive form of exercise, like boxing or gym

[davepanja]

The trend suggests that South East Asia, which Indonesia is part of, will do well in the years to come. Let's see if our trend projections are valid. In the short to intermediate terms, the Indonesian Rupiah could test the 17K ranges again.

All the digital nomads or warriors I have met over the years are some of the easiest going and adaptive individuals I have met. The digital nomad trend is going to gain traction and then explode in the years to come.

Actually Indonesia should have a prosperous future, a growing population as large as the US, young demographic and plenty of natural resources. But she has an "achilles heel" that is tantamount to future nation integrity : the rising of Islamic radicalism.

The majority of moslem here are moderate, they are kind hearted and open minded, however this Islamic radical minority are growing stronger and stronger, they have zeal and long term planning. ( it was like Moslem Brotherhood movement in Iraq, Egypt and Jordania 30 years ago.)

And for the last three decades, they sistematically creep in into state education, military and legislative power.
Their end-game is changing state ideology from secular democracy into Islamic law ideology..

In the long run, this phenomenon could bring disintegration to this country since several strategic eastern provinces in Indonesia are Christian majority, and a Hindu majority in Bali province.

[stefk]

Davepanja, do you practice qi gong? My best memory with chinese guys and women, is an improvised qigong session with them in a park in Brussels......

My mom is practicing qi gong, some says it could bring healing effect to the body, turning workout

into "moving" meditation, calming effect and enhancing our mental visualization..

However I have never tried it, because I prefer more aggresive form of exercise, like boxing or gym

What chance you have to have a mother practising qi gong. Dont hesitate to practice with her. It is the best investment you can provide to your body for his longevity. As you say, all the sports and fitness exercices are agressive for the body, and qi gong provides a weapon to avoid the physical burnout. The most basic and the most effective form for me is the 8 brocades, the qi gong from shaolin temple. You can see shaolin monks practicing their martial art till 80, 90 years old, it is thanks to their qi gong practice. By practising the 8 brocades, you benefit of hundreds years of observation from the monks on their body.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3085832/

[SOL]

Actually Indonesia should have a prosperous future, a growing population as large as the US, young demographic and plenty of natural resources. But she has an "achilles heel" that is tantamount to future nation integrity : the rising of Islamic radicalism.

The majority of moslem here are moderate, they are kind hearted and open minded, however this Islamic radical minority are growing stronger and stronger, they have zeal and long term planning. ( it was like Moslem Brotherhood movement in Iraq, Egypt and Jordania 30 years ago.)

And for the last three decades, they sistematically creep in into state education, military and legislative power.
Their end-game is changing state ideology from secular democracy into Islamic law ideology..

In the long run, this phenomenon could bring disintegration to this country since several strategic eastern provinces in Indonesia are Christian majority, and a Hindu majority in Bali province.

The Army would never embrace Radical Islam as it would cut their power base in half. Secondly, as you stated the vast majority of Indonesian Muslims are moderate and with the advent of the Internet, social media and the huge mobile penetration of Indonesia, the majority will resist and eventually if pushed mount a strong fight against the radicals. Once people taste freedom, they don't want to go back and with forces like Tookpedia, Grab, Gojek, Traveloka and various other platforms providing a means for Indonesians to build wealth, the radicals are fighting a losing battle. The Muslim Brother Hood movement did not last in Egypt, they were overthrown by the military. So in the event something like that occurred in Indonesia (low probability based on the trend), the Military would step in for the military makes more money and enjoys more powers under a secular system.

This story indicates that the trend is building. When I was in Manado about 2.5 years ago. I was surprised to see how well the Christian and Muslims got along there. It was almost impossible to distinguish one from the other, especially in the evening when they would descend on the famous fish restaurants near the beach where they would feast on seafood and drink beers, etc.


Indonesia Disbands Radical Islamic Group Over Charges of Violence

The hard-line Islamic Defenders Front was outlawed by the Indonesian government on Wednesday and ordered to cease all activities less than two months after its fiery leader, Rizieq Shihab, returned from self-imposed exile and pledged to lead a “moral revolution.”

In a statement signed by top officials and the national police chief, the government said that members of the group had engaged in terrorist and criminal acts and that activities organized by the group had disturbed public order.

Mr. Rizieq, 55, a cleric who claims to be descended from the Prophet Muhammad, is accused of violating coronavirus protocols by holding gatherings of thousands of people. He surrendered to the police earlier this month and faces up to six years in prison. Days before his arrest, six of his bodyguards were shot and killed by the police in what the authorities said was self-defense. Mr. Rizieq remains in jail.

http://www.mcac.maryland.gov/newsroom/H ... ce-nytimes


Lastly, Vietnam is growing in leaps and bounds and was it not for COVID that trend would have continued. The New Omnibus law that the present government introduced is a means to make Indonesia Attractive to foreign investment and a direct response to what Vietnam is doing to attract foreign investment. Trend analysis indicates that Asia is going to continue growing in leaps and bounds and the South East Part of Asia is one of the regions that is likely to experience the highest growth over the next 10 years

[Yodean]

Here's a 58-second clip of Osho commenting on democracy:

https://youtu.be/XOurojSW8oQ