SOL wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 1:15 pm
MarkD wrote: ↑Thu Sep 14, 2023 5:19 pm
SOL wrote: ↑Thu Sep 14, 2023 3:11 pm
We have plenty of natural resources in the United States, but here's the crucial question: Do we have the right people to make the most of them? Opening a mine can be a long journey, but without skilled workers, it won't happen. The US is facing a labour shortage in the resource sector.
My view on immigration, illegal or not, is to provide folks who will do the work indigenous refuse to consider. Mining and military fit that profile. Plus, in the beginning they work for less. I have seen this in construction and manufacturing on all scales throughout my career.
I concur regarding regular labour, but when it comes to specialized labour, it's a different story. For instance, in a coal mine, you would require...
1. Geologists: They assess the geological conditions of the mine, helping to locate and determine the quality of coal deposits.
2. Mining Engineers: Responsible for designing and planning the mine layout and overseeing extraction methods.
3. Environmental Specialists: Ensure compliance with environmental regulations and minimize the impact of mining on the surrounding ecosystem.
4. Safety Inspectors: Monitor safety protocols to prevent accidents and ensure the well-being of mine workers.
5. Equipment Operators: Operate heavy machinery such as bulldozers, excavators, and conveyor systems used in coal extraction.
6. Maintenance Technicians: Perform regular maintenance and repairs on mining equipment to keep it running smoothly.
7. Miners: Workers who physically extract coal from the mine. This may include drillers, blasters, and machine operators.
8. Surveyors: Measure and map the mine's layout to guide mining operations accurately.
9. Logistics and Transport Specialists: Oversee the transportation of coal from the mine to processing facilities or end-users.
10. Administrative Staff: Handle paperwork, permits, payroll, and other administrative tasks related to the mine's operations.
11. Healthcare Professionals: Provide medical care and emergency response services to mine workers.
12. Firefighters and Rescue Teams: Trained to respond to emergencies, such as fires or mine collapses.
13. Quality Control Inspectors: Ensure the coal extracted meets quality standards before shipment.
While some positions may be filled with inexpensive labour, recruiting individuals with specialized skills is not as readily achievable on short notice.
I wholeheartedly agree but provide the following based upon my experience.
1. Geologists are plentiful and mostly underemployed, have been for years. They are high priced technicians in many consulting firms and government. There are also some in the petro industry with capability to transition.
2. Mining Engineers are a bit of an issue. The transition away from domestic production began a generation ago. I recall the son in law of some friends who graduated at the time of the housing crisis in 2008. He transitioned into other engineering work. Like geologists, this individual and others can be redeployed, however, it will be costly (good for him). The exact same thing happened to petroleum, chemical, chemists, etc., in the 1980s, when the oil cartel was broken. I know dozens of these types of folks who transitioned to defense and consulting. That includes some who had worked in heavy equipment manufacturing (CAT, DE) as mining operations for oil shale development ended.
3. Environmental specialists. We have too many already and they all seem to be in regulatory positions creating havoc for American industry.
4. Safety Inspectors are not necessarily career educated in schools as I personally know half dozen who came from diverse backgrounds to meet OSHA "competent individual" definitions. OTJ is and has been sufficient from corporate to the field operations. Crafts, business degrees, basic science, admin have all performed this work in my experience.
5/6/7. These are the jobs immigration can provide, as they are also OTJ type skills. It will take the right individual but it has and will continue to be manageable.
8. Surveyors are available.
9. Logistics personell should just contact Yellow Roadway. The industry is full of personnel.
10. Administrative personnel are everywhere. Maybe that's why the lockdowns occurred, to get a younger generation out of the office and into the countryside where the new work will take place. No more lattes at the corner, just work and income. And better schools for their children.
11. Healthcare pros are available.
12. Fireffighters etc same.
13. QC are available.
I come from a background where I have seen all of this occur before. The former state of residence has a mining school still in business. My hometown was a mining company town.
If the USA is going to go back to work then the mentality of foiks has to change. We can do this transformation if we can place useless windmills all over the landscape. Most folks want a place to call home for their family and as factories become more automated there is an opportunity. Management is full of idiots but I could sell this reality.