The Return of the God Hypothesis

[Yodean]

One of my mistakes was assuming individuals I assumed I knew well, would not be infected with wokeness or fakeness. Hence when I said what was actually true, I got into trouble for it.

One positive thing that came out of the last three years or so for me personally is that the people with whom I interacted regularly were forced to show their true colours in a way that never happened previously ... the manner in which a particular individual responded to cv19 news, lockdown measures, mask requirements, vaccine mandates, Western mainstream media news regarding the Ukraine conflict, huge market drawdowns and melt-ups, etc. ... told me everything I needed or wanted to know about a person. There was nowhere to hide the deeper parts of oneself, I am guessing.

Most were negative surprises to the downside, but there were a handful of shocks to the upside.

As always, when it comes to people, quality over quantity is my basic motto. A lot of culling was performed - continues to this day.

[MarkD]

I also found a significant number of cv19 true believers among my family and friends. My own children don't know what to make of me as I continue to be very direct with them. One had to "manage" a trans employee issue so I believe some eyes were opened.

Some friends are fully recovered from the deceit especiallythose with health conditions post vax, some still in denial, a few making bank in the gift who won't admit their folly. Most are civil at least.

Cousin of mine didn't want to hear how f'd up DC is atm as her offspring is working for Congress. Too bad she's going to burn through daddy's $$$$ and will have to recognize high living is not in her LT best interest.

[bpcw]

I was out talking to people yesterday, spoke to an Indian guy who asked me to watch this fella, what do you think? Triplethought may agree with him.

https://youtu.be/iXyLbU1GGqU

[stefk]

well, well, I would repeat the quote of Gandhi: ""An ounce of practice is worth more than tons of preaching"".

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If you want to approach the beginning of enlightment, practice the ancient techniques of pranayama, like Jesus, Moses, lord Hanuman, Bouddha, Bodhidharma etc.........

https://www.britannica.com/topic/atman

Atman, in sanskrit, is the self, but how strange is it, it also means BREATH.

The Origin of the Word “Spirit”
The origins of the word “spirit” are Latin. “Spiritus” means breath, and refers to both respiration and the wind. It's also related to the Latin word “spirare” which means “to breathe.” Eventually, the word would come to refer to a person's character or disposition.

[scott]

I was out talking to people yesterday, spoke to an Indian guy who asked me to watch this fella, what do you think? Triplethought may agree with him.

Thanks for that bpcw.
I thought stefk would be interested also.
The author of "Cosmic Consciencnous" (reccomended reading) prefered that term to enlightment. Krishnamurti says there is no enlightenment. To me its semantic in nature, and why "western" languages deem things as a dichotomy.
Perhaps the dichotomy is you will never understand, until you realize you will never understand.
All one can do is "think", ruminate, about truthь. In the end, if there is an end, its all just your experience, and thoughts.
Depend on science, depend on faith, religion, or depend on what? I think people depend on their experience, however convoluted their thinking.

[Yodean]

Krishnamurti says there is no enlightenment.

indeed, krishnamurti is correct.

enlightenment is a cis-man-made concept, and, as such, is an artificial intellectual projection at best.

if anything, "enlightenment" is the disappearance, temporary or otherwise, of the illusory sense of an individual ego that exists as an independent entity.

there are no truly "enlightened" or "awakened" individuals because at the point of Awakening, the sense of the separate individual disappears. it may return later, wholly or in part.

anyone claiming to be an Awakened One is a False Guru.

the best TruthGuides, imo, never claim to be "Awakened," or "Enlightened." their followers might, but never the TruthGuide herself.

many on the internet claim to have undergone "Awakening" experiences ... while this may be partially true in a minority of cases, it is impossible to be wholly true because at the point of genuine Enlightenment, the sense of the separate individual disappears, rendering the formation of memory impossible, so once the "individual" returns from a true Awakening experience, it would be impossible to remember and convey in words precisely ...

the true meaning of existence, past a certain point, will always remain a Mystery, Mystical in nature - can be experienced and forgotten instantaneously, to proceed to the next experience ...

many believe, but few understand.

Ms. Death continues to laugh at me quietly ...

[SOL]

I was out talking to people yesterday, spoke to an Indian guy who asked me to watch this fella, what do you think? Triplethought may agree with him.

Thanks for that bpcw.
I thought stefk would be interested also.
The author of "Cosmic Consciencnous" (reccomended reading) prefered that term to enlightment. Krishnamurti says there is no enlightenment. To me its semantic in nature, and why "western" languages deem things as a dichotomy.
Perhaps the dichotomy is you will never understand, until you realize you will never understand.
All one can do is "think", ruminate, about truthь. In the end, if there is an end, its all just your experience, and thoughts.
Depend on science, depend on faith, religion, or depend on what? I think people depend on their experience, however convoluted their thinking.

Another way to look at it is that there is no such thing as enlightenment because we are born in a state of awareness, but due to the influence of religion, cultural norms, and conditioning, we fall asleep and lose touch with that state. Therefore, what individuals are attempting to do is to return to the state in which they were born. Those who are truly enlightened might discount this because they have maintained that state, so there is nothing to boast about. In contrast, followers who are still asleep but briefly wake up may make claims of having seen the light.

[scott]

Therefore, what individuals are attempting to do is to return to the state in which they were born.

Sounds good to me, though I might need an accommodating teat.

At any rate, we are all part and parcel to the universe. No tantrums here.

[Do-or-Die]

https://youtu.be/xSqXRaRpJVk

Damn, with a little more makeup, some aerobics and toning, she would have a decent shot at Hollywood.

Certainly in the right circumstances could make a believer out of me ...

she could read parables from the bible anytime, preferably in high heels

[Yodean]

she could read parables from the bible anytime, preferably in high heels

That sounds fun ...

*****

https://youtu.be/QJkPnBd389s?t=14

-the first 10 minutes or so is pretty worthwhile ...

[harryg]

Therefore, what individuals are attempting to do is to return to the state in which they were born.

Sounds good to me, though I might need an accommodating teat.

I believe that the very early years are formative.

I was bottle-fed, as you can see...

[bpcw]

Interesting comments!

The guy has a nihilistic worldview but this philosophy kind of collapses on itself, he talks about everything is just cause and effect and belief is just a construct of the mind that has no meaning etc., effectively we're just a bundle of atoms.

The problem with this thinking is, how can he have confidence in his own words, what's the point of even discussing anything, you end up entering your own backside! No one actually lives like they actually truly accept this philosophy accept the insane, we all live as if life has meaning which lends itself to the fact that we are this way by design although a corrupted version.

As I've stated before, Friedrich Nietzsche who espoused this philosophy and was frustrated by those who didn't live out this whilst stating it to be their belief, tried to live it out and spent the last years of his life in a mental asylum.

[scott]

Therefore, what individuals are attempting to do is to return to the state in which they were born.

Sounds good to me, though I might need an accommodating teat.

I believe that the very early years are formative.

I was bottle-fed, as you can see...

Drink, don't think. Children should be seen and not heard.

[Yodean]

https://youtu.be/LI1dWrL02CI?t=1

*****

The Adversary representative has slightly better Greco-Roman wrestling (still crappy) vs. the JesusLover, but the latter has some serious anger issues and was likely bottlefed in a similar fashion as fellow sub Harryg.

[bpcw]

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The Adversary representative has slightly better Greco-Roman wrestling (still crappy) vs. the JesusLover, but the latter has some serious anger issues and was likely bottlefed in a similar fashion as fellow sub Harryg.

That's pretty funny!

He needs to look at the plank in his own eye before taking the spec out of the other's.

"Bless your enemies and pray for them", think the Christian might have got this slightly wrong! This guy dressed as the devil isn't even an enemy, just provocative, ideal person to have a nice chat to, says much more about the Christian who isn't following the teachings of Christ!

Don't follower Christians, follow Christ!