Broad Discussion: Stock Market Outlook 2023

[Yodean]

skynet is overrated. G is getting worried about Chatgpt, they have even put their engineers on alert to focus on more AI products.

Although you may be right, I tend not to take readily available mainstream news at face value. I ran across the "news" about Google being worried as well ...

In general, you tend to get what you pay for - in chatgpt's case, it's free, so ...

I'm betting Google's DeepMind is years ahead, in terms of A.I. capabilities ... in my case, just some sort of intuition, or perhaps, "guess" is a better word. Still ...

Also, a few of my Frenemies who work in tech seem to think this is the case, as well ...

[outof thebox]

Well I hope Google melts and blows up after I sell, but while i a holding i want it to go to Mars. Logically speaking there will be more than one AI system . You need to be mobile and fast, remember how Kodak was the king and then they vanished, polaroid, AOL, and so on. Being big is not enough

[jonnyfrank]

Well I hope Google melts and blows up after I sell, but while i a holding i want it to go to Mars. Logically speaking there will be more than one AI system . You need to be mobile and fast, remember how Kodak was the king and then they vanished, polaroid, AOL, and so on. Being big is not enough

It is a rather different time, since Google, Facebook, etc. all have strings on them via the PTB and politicians, more so than ever. AI is a very big deal, and if greed is not kept in check then Terminator here we come.

[Jaz]

skynet is overrated. G is getting worried about Chatgpt, they have even put their engineers on alert to focus on more AI products.

Although you may be right, I tend not to take readily available mainstream news at face value. I ran across the "news" about Google being worried as well ...

In general, you tend to get what you pay for - in chatgpt's case, it's free, so ...

I'm betting Google's DeepMind is years ahead, in terms of A.I. capabilities ... in my case, just some sort of intuition, or perhaps, "guess" is a better word. Still ...

Also, a few of my Frenemies who work in tech seem to think this is the case, as well ...

When something is critically acclaimed, hyped, widely talked about, be very cautious.

I don't think it is a coincidence there is massive hype surrounding chatgpt, and OpenAi just happens to be making plans to IPO OpenAI. It is being hyped to inflate the valuation.

[Budge]

skynet is overrated. G is getting worried about Chatgpt, they have even put their engineers on alert to focus on more AI products.

Although you may be right, I tend not to take readily available mainstream news at face value. I ran across the "news" about Google being worried as well ...

In general, you tend to get what you pay for - in chatgpt's case, it's free, so ...

I'm betting Google's DeepMind is years ahead, in terms of A.I. capabilities ... in my case, just some sort of intuition, or perhaps, "guess" is a better word. Still ...

Also, a few of my Frenemies who work in tech seem to think this is the case, as well ...

When something is critically acclaimed, hyped, widely talked about, be very cautious.

I don't think it is a coincidence there is massive hype surrounding chatgpt, and OpenAi just happens to be making plans to IPO OpenAI. It is being hyped to inflate the valuation.

Karl Denninger has a good piece on Eliza, Wolfram Alpha and ChatGPT:

I challenged it directly including the contrary facts, which are facts as they came from a public medical study published by an extremely well-respected source: The Cleveland Clinic.

In response it apologized for its previous response not being accurate and then went on to repeat the false claim while deliberately evading the contrary evidence in its reply.

In other words it has been instructed how to lie by refusing to synthesize into its response the new information -- and its not very good at it either. Whether that's because its incapable of synthesis or has chosen not to is immaterial to the outcome which is that it presented a second false set of statements as the point was deliberately evaded.

https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=247817

[SOL]

Karl Denninger has a good piece on Eliza, Wolfram Alpha and ChatGPT:

I challenged it directly including the contrary facts, which are facts as they came from a public medical study published by an extremely well-respected source: The Cleveland Clinic.

In response it apologized for its previous response not being accurate and then went on to repeat the false claim while deliberately evading the contrary evidence in its reply.

In other words it has been instructed how to lie by refusing to synthesize into its response the new information -- and its not very good at it either. Whether that's because its incapable of synthesis or has chosen not to is immaterial to the outcome which is that it presented a second false set of statements as the point was deliberately evaded.

https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=247817

I suspect Chatgpt is different for the record based on what is available CHAPTgp 4 kicks googles Lamda's arse. It can handle 1 trillion parameters, while Lamaba can only handle about 175 billion. It also knocks Google's Palm bot which supposedly can handle a bit more than Lambda

What makes Chatgpt interesting is that it can be used to interface with other potentially more logically or mathematically accurate AI. Now we have a program that writes with an independent spell checker, so as to speak or data verifier. In tech, what counts is speed, and G appears to have been caught with its knickers in a knot.

The expectation is mounting up around OpenAI’s ChatGPT-4, which is scheduled for 2023, although there is no official confirmation on either the launch or beta testing of it.

GPT-4 stands for Generative Pre-trained Transformer 4. It’s basically an artificial intelligence system that can create human-like text.

While the current ChatGPT-3 has 175 billion parameters, ChatGPT-4 might have 1 trillion, or even more, according to some reports. Similarly, it will be capable of text answering, content generation, language translation, and text summarization, just like the current ChatGPT-3.

The increase of parameters — a measure of the complexity of the neural machine to do useful things — should enable ChatGPT-4 to produce more accurate responses at a much faster rate. This AI-powered technology might prompt a major shift in the economy, some experts claim.

It’s been 29 months since OpenAI launched GPT-2, its large-language model, which demonstrated the power of transformers-based neural networks. GPT-2 impressed experts with the quality of its natural text generation. Its successor GPT-3, released in 2020, was a bigger, more complex model, that delivered even more powerful results, not only with texts but with audio, images, and movies.

https://iblnews.org/chatgpt-4-the-fined ... jor-shift/

[scott]

The next "Black Swan"?

Zandi Says Too-Calm Investors Raise Risk of US Default Calamity

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... t-calamity

[SOL]

The next "Black Swan"?

Zandi Says Too-Calm Investors Raise Risk of US Default Calamity

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... t-calamity

Or maybe the Ugly duckling event could be worse than a black swan, albeit very short-term. There is reason to believe that the big players will act differently in areas where the masses have come to expect a resolution. Perhaps not this issue, but the new cycle for the next 9-12 is to do the unexpected in areas where the masses expected things would resolve as they have for the past 80 to 100 years.

However, one thing will never change the greater the deviation from the norm in and out of the markets, the greater the opportunity for those that understand the way this game is played