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Eric wrote: Sun Jan 15, 2023 5:42 am The thing that gets me...the (thinks they're so) "smart" set that's pulling the strings on all this... they didn't factor in the fact that the sheeple they wish to rule would be the ones to die and the people like me with all the guns that refuse to bend to their tyranny would be the ones that are left.
That's why America is still good to some degree; the second amendment but they are trying to go after that. However, a huge swath of the population is armed and as Sol has pointed out its inevitable at some there will be clash of cultures. The left and right are diametrically opposed to each other; individuals from the same country but with strongly opposing views. In my not so humble opinion the Left has lost it. All this crap they are forcing on normal humans has to end. I have a decent supply of guns, though I am not as well versed as you are. However, at close range I am sure I will miss very little. But I have backup plans in place, which means there is a good chance that I won't be spending 12 months of the year in the US.

For the record there are lot of individuals like you, armed critical thinkers that are willing to fight these fuckers to the end. A large percentage of individuals I call friends or associates think along these lines.
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According to a Finland study of the entire country, the background rate of myocarditis pre-COVID was zero-4 cases per million people. According to two new studies among the jabbed, the rate of myocarditis is 25,000 per million people. The jabs are (un-)safe and (in-)effective! Be sure to get your clot-shot booster!
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The first video signals how dumb today's people are

https://youtu.be/u3gSkxqYIEs


These two videos potentially explains why civil war at some point is inevitable

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaC-RdknMiM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AS11SbvLmM
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Triplethought wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 9:21 pm ...I have a case of Covid again. I've been vaccinated 5 times, the latest was November 17th of 2022.
Does it give you pause at all to realize that if you or anyone else came to my house and tried to inject that poison into my kids, my wife, or myself, I would shoot you with a gun; and not just once or twice...? Don't bring a syringe to a gun fight. I am 100% serious, I believe with every fiber of my being that those shots are so dangerous it is a potential life-or-death self-defense scenario.

What about the math from all stratified data available (if you care to do the math) that says something like 95% of all deaths WITH covid were over age 65?...Gee...do old people make up the majority of deaths on a typical day prior to covid? What about the fact that the median age of "covid death" in America was TWO YEARS OVER THE AVERAGE LIFE EXPECTANCY IN AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!! Or the study out of Japan that said of the minuscule amount of deaths actually caused by covid and not caused by (primary) "comorbidities".... 85% could have been prevented by Vitamin D, Ivermectin, and Hydroxychloroquine? As of now 85% of all "covid deaths" in Australia are from the 4x (or more) "vaccinated" with 0% of COVID deaths from the "unvaccinated". At what point does reality overpower the magical thinking of "vaccines"?
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Yodean wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:40 pm
jonnyfrank wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:48 pm
I have not been vaxxed. I am what one would classify as an anti covid vaxxer.
Good. Kudos.

Anybody who has remained unjabbed this long, is among the StrongMinded, in my books, regardless of potential divergences in opinion regarding the markets.

Christ stands with the PureBloods atm:
There are very few of us amongst the Jesus followers who remained unvaccinated, most are mainstream narrative followers too! In fact I can only think of one friend who has not taken a covid jab, he is like me, a critical thinker and does a lot of research, also like me does a lot of research on alternative healthy diets and doesn't go to institutional church.

Luckily be unvaccinated isn't a requirement for salvation!

Blessed are the vaccinated believers for they will see Heaven.....................................far quicker than the unvaccinated! :mrgreen:
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bpcw wrote: Sun Jan 15, 2023 9:47 pm Blessed are the vaccinated believers for they will see Heaven.....................................far quicker than the unvaccinated! :mrgreen:
That's pretty good ... and sadly, statistically true, thus far.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1614159478617739264

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I knew the second person featured in that clip. RIP. Quite a few others I know who are not in the clip have had their lives, and those of their families irrevocably damaged by these vaccines.

Am currently doing some pro bono work for the vax-injured. Wasn't my specific intention, and it kind of started organically through word of mouth among former colleagues and friends.

Some of the same people that previously mocked me as a nutty anti-vaxxer are now seeking my help. It's kind of funny how that works ...

The vax-injured are having a tough time getting proper medical attention/help - most working mainstream MDs don't want to talk about the harmful effects of the vaccines (they could lose their license or at the very least, be demonized as a crazy "anti-vaxxer") and/or haven't looked into the actual vaccine research very carefully.

I'm accumulating a lot of interesting data on the vax-injured ...
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Yodean wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 10:41 am
I knew the second person featured in that clip. RIP. Quite a few others I know who are not in the clip have had their lives, and those of their families irrevocably damaged by these vaccines.

Am currently doing some pro bono work for the vax-injured. Wasn't my specific intention, and it kind of started organically through word of mouth among former colleagues and friends.

Some of the same people that previously mocked me as a nutty anti-vaxxer are now seeking my help. It's kind of funny how that works ...

The vax-injured are having a tough time getting proper medical attention/help - most working mainstream MDs don't want to talk about the harmful effects of the vaccines (they could lose their license or at the very least, be demonized as a crazy "anti-vaxxer") and/or haven't looked into the actual vaccine research very carefully.

I'm accumulating a lot of interesting data on the vax-injured ...
Kudos to you. With the data you accumulate you can become a major force for good just be wary of some of those still inhabiting Plato's Cave. Even so, I fear you'll never run out of those that need help.
In a study (not yet published) of 177 people in Puerto Rico (97% of whom were vaccinated), cardiac injury was objectively measured in 70% of the people measured (ages 8 to 84). I know the guy who did the study and we have all the records from the machine for each person. This is going to be hard for Jonathan to dispute. Really hard. But hey, if he can show me a study I’m wrong, it’s worth the $50K. So far, nobody else has.

In the US military, they did a thorough investigation of a large number of soldiers and found markers of cardiac injury in 68% of our soldiers. This was kept under wraps, but I am friends with the doctor who did the study.

The Thailand study is well known. It showed close to a 30% rate of cardiac injury in young adults. So that’s the backup plan. But the 70% rate of cardiac injury in Puerto Rico… that’s the slam dunk.

In addition I found this:

Changes of ECG parameters after BNT162b2 vaccine in the senior high school students in which 17.1% had at least one cardiac symptom 2-3 days after the second dose. This is only measuring ECG alone which is not very sensitive for measuring cardiac injury. So even if you believe this, it’s a good bet that more sensitive tests increase those numbers significantly.
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/jona ... e-50k-that

And then, in the "you can't make this shit up", we have Moderna wanting to profit on a problem they helped create:
In an interview with Sky News, Bancel said, “We are now in a super exciting program where we inject mRNA in people’s heart after a heart attack to grow back new blood vessels and re-vascularize the heart.”

In short, Moderna will fix the problem it created.
https://truthpress.com/news/moderna-ann ... -patients/
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Yodean wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 10:41 am
bpcw wrote: Sun Jan 15, 2023 9:47 pm Blessed are the vaccinated believers for they will see Heaven.....................................far quicker than the unvaccinated! :mrgreen:
That's pretty good ... and sadly, statistically true, thus far.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1614159478617739264

*****

I knew the second person featured in that clip. RIP. Quite a few others I know who are not in the clip have had their lives, and those of their families irrevocably damaged by these vaccines.

Am currently doing some pro bono work for the vax-injured. Wasn't my specific intention, and it kind of started organically through word of mouth among former colleagues and friends.

Some of the same people that previously mocked me as a nutty anti-vaxxer are now seeking my help. It's kind of funny how that works ...

The vax-injured are having a tough time getting proper medical attention/help - most working mainstream MDs don't want to talk about the harmful effects of the vaccines (they could lose their license or at the very least, be demonized as a crazy "anti-vaxxer") and/or haven't looked into the actual vaccine research very carefully.

I'm accumulating a lot of interesting data on the vax-injured ...
Do you pay by attention to the FLCCC? I listen to their weekly update occasionally and have used their protocol.
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Investor87 wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 4:00 pm Do you pay by attention to the FLCCC? I listen to their weekly update occasionally and have used their protocol.
Yes - very, very good site. Don't agree with everything they say, but I'm quibbling here - agree with most of the important points.

I think the increased risk of aggressive cancers is underestimated (due to impaired cancer surveillance from jab) - so the idea that one is "in the clear" if she gets jabbed and has no noticeable side-effects up to a year is somewhat suspect.

But on balance, excellent data at that site and associated links. Everyone that has been vaxxed would likely benefit from reading the information presented. As a side note, I _love_ the fact they present intermittent fasting as one of their suggestions (increase autophagy, clear unwanted spike proteins).

We're in uncharted territory here - more and more data is coming in.
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Budge wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 11:49 am
Kudos to you. With the data you accumulate you can become a major force for good just be wary of some of those still inhabiting Plato's Cave.
In an interview with Sky News, Bancel said, “We are now in a super exciting program where we inject mRNA in people’s heart after a heart attack to grow back new blood vessels and re-vascularize the heart.”

In short, Moderna will fix the problem it created.
https://truthpress.com/news/moderna-ann ... -patients/
Moderna: classic (create) Problem - (elicit) Reaction- (provide) Solution paradigm. Stock likely to do extremely well. Not MCOT - I'm definitely no saint, but I have to draw the line somewhere.

Collecting data re/ vax-injured purely for satiation of intellectual curiosity - the immune system is quite complex and not well understood in its interactions with itself as well as with surrounding biological environment by mainstream medicine. Plus some initial data suggesting epigenetic effects of mRNA/DNA therapies - the vax may actually affect the expression of various genes in unpredictable ways, such as tumour suppressor genes, in additon to causing more immediate adverse side-effects.

So I'm kind of helping some of these people mostly out of self-interest - I'm curious - they provide me with their private medical information/labwork/tests/symptoms, and I try to offer some sort of thesis of what is happening.

Mostly, I tell them to stop getting another jab - that's a lot of work in itself, because you also end up having to explain the PCR tests, the masking studies, the low lethality of cv19, etc., Big Pharma's power, and so forth.

There's also a small part of me that's morbidly enjoying watching these folks struggle with the cognitive dissonance of what they have done - i.e. recommending jabs to family and friends, including their own children.

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Good read:

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-cont ... -FINAL.pdf
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Yodean wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 8:40 pm

Moderna: classic (create) Problem - (elicit) Reaction- (provide) Solution paradigm. Stock likely to do extremely well. Not MCOT - I'm definitely no saint, but I have to draw the line somewhere.

Collecting data re/ vax-injured purely for satiation of intellectual curiosity - the immune system is quite complex and not well understood in its interactions with itself as well as with surrounding biological environment by mainstream medicine. Plus some initial data suggesting epigenetic effects of mRNA/DNA therapies - the vax may actually affect the expression of various genes in unpredictable ways, such as tumour suppressor genes, in additon to causing more immediate adverse side-effects.

So I'm kind of helping some of these people mostly out of self-interest - I'm curious - they provide me with their private medical information/labwork/tests/symptoms, and I try to offer some sort of thesis of what is happening.

Mostly, I tell them to stop getting another jab - that's a lot of work in itself, because you also end up having to explain the PCR tests, the masking studies, the low lethality of cv19, etc., Big Pharma's power, and so forth.

There's also a small part of me that's morbidly enjoying watching these folks struggle with the cognitive dissonance of what they have done - i.e. recommending jabs to family and friends, including their own children.

*****

Good read:

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-cont ... -FINAL.pdf

Be wary of the saying no good deed goes unpunished. Whether you are collecting the data to satisfy your curiosity or not, you are still providing information that might wake up too many sheep, and you are Doctor. So a good Doc is one that plays along with the given narrative and you are rocking the boat :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Kudos to you for thinking out of the box and being willing to go the extra mile. The data should prove to be very interesting as we all know they will keep unleashing more plagues on the world. The next one might be called Mindvid. Don't take the shot; you might lose your mind

You might find this study interesting.

Whether and how an acute immune challenge may affect DNA Damage Response (DDR) is unknown. By studying vaccinations against Influenza and SARS-CoV-2 (mRNA-based) we found acute increases of type-I interferon-inducible gene expression, oxidative stress and DNA damage accumulation in blood mononuclear cells of 9 healthy controls, coupled with effective anti-SARS-CoV-2 neutralizing antibody production in all. Increased DNA damage after SARS-CoV-2 vaccine, partly due to increased oxidative stress, was transient, whereas the inherent DNA repair capacity was found intact. In contrast, in 26 patients with Systemic Lupus Erythematosus, who served as controls in the context of chronic immune activation, we validated increased DNA damage accumulation, increased type-I interferon-inducible gene expression and induction of oxidative stress, however aberrant DDR was associated with deficiencies in nucleotide excision repair pathways. These results indicate that acute immune challenge can indeed activate DDR pathways, whereas, contrary to chronic immune challenge, successful repair of DNA lesions occurs.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8171000/

I am not sure that the DNA damage can be reversed quite as easily or fast as they claim


On a side note, two identical twins took the shot, and one suffered various side effects ranging from mild to very strong. While the second one followed a protocol that keeps inflammation at bay, and so far, he appears to be well and healthy as a horse. Hopefully, the other twin decides to wake up sooner than later
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On this forum, we have a doc who thinks outside the box, its not common, and I really think its a chance for u.
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SOL wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 6:23 am https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8171000/

I am not sure that the DNA damage can be reversed quite as easily or fast as they claim
Agreed. The study you posted is interesting, in the sense that at least somebody was willing (half-heartedly) to look at this particular clinical question.

However, in the "experimental group," there was only nine healthy subjects, aged 27 to 44, seven of which were women. And the presented results were following one or two doses of the cv19 jab or flu vax.

The results are not sufficient to extrapolate in any significant manner. E.g. what about older men with co-morbidities? What about after 4 to 5 jabs? In any case, having only nine patients is far too few.

Speaking of which, I am becoming increasingly worried about YoungAnakin. Hopefully he is okay - his silence on this board is somewhat ominous.

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The following is quite good, even if you are PureBlooded. It has a lot of interesting data on various therapies and supplements, all referenced nicely:

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-cont ... -FINAL.pdf

It's got good information on stuff like intermittent fasting (my favourite), methylene blue (Sol's favourite), melatonin ... as well as heat therapy (e.g. saunas, heat shock proteins), cold exposure (cold showers, etc.), sunlight (beyond vitamin D) ... and especially for those who have been jabbed, can serve as a decent starting point for getting better.

The data in there can also potentially accelerate physical and mental gains for those who are already very healthy but looking to become more so.
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Yodean wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:56 pm
Triplethought wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 9:51 pm Anyway right now I have an itchy torso and am trying to figure out if the chemicals in my hot tub are off or if it's a rash related to Covid, or maybe if it's shingles.
@YoungAnakin: you're been exceedingly lucky so far ... still doing fairly well after 5 jabs, apart from a terrible "delta" infection after your 2nd or 3rd? shot, horrible shingles, and now more skin issues ...

Your 6th shot might be your last. I'm not kidding. As the situation stands, my speculation is that your long-term immune system has been compromised in ways we are just beginning to understand - this includes defense against the development of all types of cancers.

I'm only interested in keeping you alive because you supplied 50% of my JBS (Jesus Buy Signal) triggered last October. Sometime in the future, I expect you will play a significant role in triggering my JSS (Jesus Sell Signal) - likely when you start making buy recommendations to me.

As for your skin reaction, some interesting links to peruse:

https://swprs.org/covid-vaccine-adverse-events/

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 352100053X

https://t.me/s/covidvaccineinjuries/1453

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8525834/

Follow the real science ... it's not too late, but the clock's ticking ...
Har har. I actually seriously do have to decide whether to do a 6th jab at some point. Given how many times I've had Covid and how it knocks my dick in the dirt for 6 months at a time I'm not anxious for a repeat. I'd hardly call early october a Jesus Buy signal. Unless JBS is the minor version of a MOBO or FOBO I suppose.

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A Dr Malhotra interview on BBC is covered in the God Hypothesis section. Here's a longer interview he did with Tucker Carlson:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3MPnBpfrRk
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