West's duplicitous double standards: Russia War

[Do-or-Die]

Macho Music - The Beat Goes On
The only panic I see is here in the West. Our economies are cratering, a great financial crisis is looming, our people are in a state of cold civil war, and our governments have long since been taken by corruption. It is us who are headed off a cliff. This view of impending doom here in the US is held by people of all political persuasions. Forget about Europe, they are toast. Save your concern trolling for the West ... Russia's future looks very bright. They have tiny amounts of debt and endless underexploited resources. - Ivan


Sushi sez: "The MIC may all vote for Biden but the rest of the country appears less than enthused. Blaming Putin appears difficult given Biden's executive orders on taking office - cancelling pipelines and O and G leasing. I can understand Joe Average asking "Why billions for Z and none for me?"

"The alternate explanation is that the West is totally FUBAR."

"Why should we spend all this money on overseas adventures, when food prices are skyrocketing and the number of people living in or near poverty levels keeps growing and growing." "Vote out the war-mongers and let's take care of Americans first." - aristodemos

"And the Empire really is a beast. It cannot be reasoned with. The West is “agreement incapable”. Note that it isn’t “agreement averse” or that it just prefers to break its agreements, but it is literally incapable. The West cannot honor any agreements, no matter how much in good faith they were made, because the entire West is suffering mass psychosis and its collective perception of reality is constantly in flux. The West is totally FUBAR, as Sushi suggested above." - Billy Gruff

After the no vote fails Russia should do the same thing to the US. The votes could be there to kick the US off. It would be the biggest shakedown in world history. It would cost the US a trillion dollars to buy the votes they need. It would be hilarious to hear the US howl like a stuck pig. - circumspect

"Take history away from the people - and in a generation they will turn into a crowd, and in another generation they can be controlled like a herd."


"It's a good thing we didn't know how bad we were. To die in the company of heroes is one thing, to die in the company of stumble bums led by fools, is quite another." - Paul Fussell, on the US Army in the ETO, WW2

The British armed forces are extremely unpopular in Britain. Sure, everybody says they love Our Boys, but nobody in their right mind wants to join them in a shooting war. They've been struggling with recruitment for years, and rightly so - you'd have to be an idiot to join the British Army and risk getting your balls shot off for a pittance in some godforsaken hellhole that never did anything to deserve being attacked by Blighty in the first place.

Britain's armed forces are about Diversity™, Climate Change, Feminism, and whatever else is in the Guardian this week, and goes around murdering helpless peasants in Third World countries while its own country is openly invaded by illiterate benefits-seekers and criminal gangs every day of the week.

Our culture is moronic and obscene. Our financial system is parasitical. Our foreign policy is based on the moral insights of Jeffrey Dahmer. - ZX

https://fivegunswest.blogspot.com/2022/ ... es-on.html

[Do-or-Die]

Ode to the war


War is war with Nature’s peace –
Eternal is the pounding drill.
War is Man in Evil’s grease –
Besmeared is he with chronic ill.

War deplores the question: ‘Why? ‘
War emits her eerie cry:
‘Oh! human nature in extremis,
E’er you sport your raging p*nis
Raping us until the grave.

War aggressive, war perverse,
War oppressive, be our curse!
Up the tension; not to mention
Pain to bear and loss to share –
We’re bait for you to so deprave! ‘

In war I love an ugly rhyme –
Like a piss, it passes time.

War created aberrant charm:
Behold! the beauty in the Bomb!
‘A bloom for me, a mushroom head –
Oh shrine of cloud, you are the dead.’

War is colour so demeaned:
Blood red, flash white,
Spattered o’er the civvies’ plight.

War is baying:
‘Victory -! Hail the winner! Fail the loser! ‘
Pitiful; there are no winners, sinners!
If winners that we must define, it’s
But the side who suffered less – yes;
No less! Powerless be us all.

War – sounds almost onomatopoeic:
War; gore; implore; score (to settle) :
Floor, on which you lie when dying,
Crying, spying, putrefying –
Petrifying!

War bears childhood fantasies:
Toy soldiers for young boys,
Computers now with games,
Destroy with click of mouse,
‘I shoot you down in flames! ‘

War is educational:
Jane’s Infantry Weapons.
Well hip-hip-hooray!
Now I have a great idea –
A birthday present with a sneer!

War is shame with Man to blame.
Shame on you! Shame on Man!
Damn your bomb and battle plan!
Deny the fight! Befriend the foe!

No, wait!

For if they do, then Man must go.

Copyright © Mark R Slaughter 2009

[Budge]

https://youtu.be/JxdHm2dmvKE

A rather good video as the dude does use his brain.

An excellent video. I find it unfortunate that he was recommended to discuss/consult Frederick Kagan - one of the Kagan/Nuland Clan:

"How the Kagan-Nuland Family Influences Coverage of the War in Ukraine"
https://europerenaissance.com/2022/07/1 ... n-ukraine/

From the very beginning of the military special operation in Ukraine, the Washington organization institute for the Study of War has been actively following its progress and covering the results. The NPO is basically typical of what the Mexican President described as a Jewish Mafia with an average annual budget of $1.7 million, is run by the sister-in-law of US Deputy Secretary of State Victoria Nuland. The ‘reports from the front’ from ISW are characterized by an openly pro-Kiev position. RT studied how the anti-Russian structure was born and what the Ukrainian roots of the Nuland family have to do with it.

As an aside, I found a reference to Blinken At his "Brit Milah male circumcision ceremony the best bit of Blinken was thrown away"

Robert Parry in Consortium News described a family business of perpetual war

In other words, the Family Kagan has almost a self-perpetuating, circular business model working the inside-corridors of government power to stimulate wars while simultaneously influencing the public debate through think-tank reports and op-ed columns in favor of more military spending and then collecting grants and other funding from thankful military contractors.

To be fair, the Nuland-Kagan mom-and-pop shop is really only a microcosm of how the Military-Industrial Complex has worked for decades: think-tank analysts generate the reasons for military spending, the government bureaucrats implement the necessary war policies, and the military contractors make lots of money before kicking back some to the think tanks — so the bloody but profitable cycle can spin again.

The only thing that makes the Nuland-Kagan operation special perhaps is that the whole process is all in the family.

https://consortiumnews.com/2015/03/20/a ... etual-war/

Meanwhile, for a Russian critique Frederick Kagan turn to Andrei Martyanov:

Frederick Kagan, another offspring of the politically fecund Kagan clan, which is a major contributor to the American neocon ideology, which is a euphemism for academic fraud and ignorance, penned a piece in Time magazine, which is an Exhibit A of the Kagans uncontrollable urges to spew BS any time they speak about Russia. Naturally, they know very little about Russia and American necocons are simply not good at warfare. In fact, they suck so badly that putting a lipstick on the pig of the American wars in Iraq and Afghanistan--brain children of the Robert Kagan and his neocon ilk from PNAC--cannot hide anymore an ugly record of strategic failure, lack of vision and, as a result, humiliating military and political defeats which culminated in the "escape from Afghanistan". Well, Frederick Kagan managed to teach military history in the USMA at West-Point. Boy, I wonder what this military "thinker" taught there. So, he concludes:


"The fight for Severodonetsk is a Russian information operation in the form of a battle. One of its main purposes for Moscow is to create the impression that Russia has regained its strength and will now overwhelm Ukraine. That impression is false. The Russian military in Ukraine is increasingly a spent force that cannot achieve a decisive victory if Ukrainians hold on. Russian President Vladimir Putin is therefore trying to turn his invasion of Ukraine into a brutal contest of wills. He’s betting his army on breaking Ukrainians’ collective will to fight on in their country. His own won’t likely break. Fortunately, Ukraine doesn’t need it to. If Ukrainians can weather the current Russian storm and then counterattack the exhausted Russian forces they still have every chance to free their people and all their land."

I know, Kagans hate Russian guts, it is natural for their extensive family which straddles a variety of corridors of power, academy and what passes in the US for diplomacy, having a lot of influence in D.C. But diplomats (like Vicky) or geopolitical thinkers (like Robert), or warfare professionals (like Kimberly), or military historians (like Frederick) they are not. Not even close.

The fact that Frederick is a fraud as "military historian" is this his risible conclusion:


"The Russians have adapted to this grim reality by changing their tactics to something reminiscent of the First World War or the “Methodical Battle” doctrine of the French Army in 1940—artillery barrages destroy everything in a given sector of the battlefield and then Russian troops crawl forward through the ruins. But even this approach has its limits. Russia’s supply of artillery pieces is not infinite. They have had to concentrate artillery densely in the prioritized sectors, pulling it away from other areas. They have drawn artillery (and tanks and other equipment) out of ancient Soviet-era stores. And they’ve begun taking equipment out of Belarusian stocks as well—likely the last stockpiles of gear Putin can reliably get his hands on."

So, no wonder the US Army cannot win shit in the last 30 years. When you have such "professors" like Frederick, who, obviously doesn't know the subject--that is Russia's approach to modern war (and he doesn't, none of the Kagans does, including Kimberly who runs this sinecure for the retired US Army "Napoleons"--ISW), does the US really need enemies? Explaining to Frederick what modern combined arms warfare is, is an exercise in futility because he will not understand it because the person who writes such a hysterical drivel really needs to undergo his professional evaluation, because, obviously the only thing he is good at, same as most US neocons, including those from the US military, is lying and fantastical thinking. But applying "Methodical Battle" doctrine of the French Army which in 1940 successfully collapsed in 6 weeks and France was humiliated by Hitler in Compiegne, to modern Russian operation in 404. Somebody explain to this "military" historian what are modern stand-off precision weapons are and how operations are planned.

If Frederick, who is allegedly a "military historian" wants to find better examples in trying to portray Russia's war effort in 404 in the light which allows his fanatically Russophobic relatives not to have an aneurysm outright, he should have come up with better BS, or, maybe, just maybe, tried to study actual Russian military history and see for himself how Russian military thought developed from the times of Peter the Great to Brusilov (yes, yes--rolling artillery wall, his invention) in 1916, to Triandafilov, Svechin, in the end--to military leaders of the Great Patriotic War. That will spare him a lot of butt-hurt and emotional stress. Or will it? In the end, you may recall (both in my videos and here in blog) that I state constantly--if you decided to lie on matters of warfare, at least learn to lie professionally and that implies serious military knowledge, which none of the Kagans has.I know, Kagans hate Russian guts, it is natural for their extensive family which straddles a variety of corridors of power, academy and what passes in the US for diplomacy, having a lot of influence in D.C. But diplomats (like Vicky) or geopolitical thinkers (like Robert), or warfare professionals (like Kimberly), or military historians (like Frederick) they are not. Not even close.

https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2022/0 ... -like.html

[Yodean]

So, no wonder the US Army cannot win shit in the last 30 years.

Another perspective for consideration is how one defines "winning."

For example, Afghanistan wasn't really about the U.S. winning territory. Among other reasons, it was about enriching the pockets of the U.S. MIC (Military-Industrial Complex), which it did. As well as testing out new weapons.

The current Russian-Ukrainian conflict may also be viewed through a similar lens. In this case, the situation is even better for Uncle Sam's MIC. No American lives need to be risked in terms of negative publicity.

U.S. MIC and NATO - the latter really just an extension of the U.S. MIC - get to test out a lot of new weapons and tactics on the battlefield, and MIC is making big bank on all the weapons contracts.

Parts of Ukraine will need to be rebuilt - so more money for U.S. and other Western companies to secure lucrative contracts.

Putin badly miscalculated how much the Ukrainian resistance, backed by the U.S. MIC/NATO, would be - he was way too soft in the beginning. Prolly because of poor military intelligence Vlad was given - this tends to happen in ossified kleptocracies and communist societies where people are afraid to speak their minds to their superiors.

I foresee a stalemate of sorts - there's a lot of domestic pressure for Russia to turn up the offensive and at least secure the Donbas.

A stalemate with the threat of constant escalation from both sides once again benefits the U.S. MIC - Western Europe will become increasingly dependent on the U.S. more and more, for many different things.

Meanwhile, more Russians die, as well as Ukrainians.

So, I ask again - who's really "winning?"

[Tobeornot]

Regarding Ukraine’s recent “hugely successful” advance into the Kharkov oblast, the fact is this: Russia withdrew in a orderly manner and suffered very few casualties (even the analysts in the UK Ministry of Defence admitted this), while the Ukro/NATO troops suffered many thousands of deaths, being shelled in open territory as they advanced (a classic Mongol “withdrawal” tactic, learned by the Kievan Rus to their great cost historically, and now used against the dumbass UkroNazis to their great cost). With such a glorious success, it is just a matter of time before the UkroNazis suicide their way to moribund “victory”.

Russia and China are definitely NOT the parties who pose the risk of nuclear war to the world, although if fired upon first they will not hesitate to retaliate without restraint, which was Putin’s actual message. The USA is the only party which defacto seriously considers first nuclear strikes, because their policy has long been captured by despicably immoral, unethical and criminally insane psychopaths:

https://johnmenadue.com/gunboat-diploma ... dicted-us/

Here is another previous comment of mine (slightly modified):

I would like to make it clear that I am NOT against all Americans in general. America is not a monolith, it consists of:

AmeriCANs, who are a tiny minority courageously striving for truth and a better world and better living conditions for average Americans. I named some of them previously (Chris Hedges, Noam Chomsky etc). I support the AmeriCANs with every fiber of my being, they are true American patriots, unlike the MAGA knuckleheads. However the majority of the population in the USA are:
AmeriCANTs, who make up the teeming masses of hapless, clueless citizens who lack agency and are suffering dreadfully under a rapacious Kleptocracy. Then there are:
AmeriCUNTs, the tiny minority of psychopathic Neocons and their ilk. They are like the ant brain fungus Ophiocordyceps or rat brain parasite Toxoplasma that cause their hosts to engage in suicidal behavior to benefit said parasite.
Here is something I wrote (slightly modified) in response to Pepe Escobar’s recent article about the US in Africa https://thesaker.is/the-real-us-agenda- ... -hegemony/

There was a time when the USA under JFK might truly have become a force for good in Africa and the world. JFK was a friend to the social justice champion Patrice Lumumba who was the democratically elected leader in the Congo. Things changed utterly when Lumumba was assassinated by proxy by the CIA. JFK’s anguished dismay at this news was captured in a famous photograph, reproduced in this article https://jfkjmn.com/new-page-1/

All hope (for a better world) was lost completely after JFK, then RFK, were assassinated by the CIA and FBI. View Oliver Stone’s documentaries to get the facts. AmeriCANs lost control of their country, it was taken over by AmeriCUNTs.

http://thesaker.is/satirium-est-ipecac- ... n-veritas/

Interesting piece

[Yodean]

AmeriCANs,
AmeriCANTs,
AmeriCUNTs,

At this point in the game, I'm not sure how helpful this is.

[Budge]

So, no wonder the US Army cannot win shit in the last 30 years.

Another perspective for consideration is how one defines "winning."

For example, Afghanistan wasn't really about the U.S. winning territory. Among other reasons, it was about enriching the pockets of the U.S. MIC (Military-Industrial Complex), which it did. As well as testing out new weapons.

The current Russian-Ukrainian conflict may also be viewed through a similar lens. In this case, the situation is even better for Uncle Sam's MIC. No American lives need to be risked in terms of negative publicity.

U.S. MIC and NATO - the latter really just an extension of the U.S. MIC - get to test out a lot of new weapons and tactics on the battlefield, and MIC is making big bank on all the weapons contracts.

Parts of Ukraine will need to be rebuilt - so more money for U.S. and other Western companies to secure lucrative contracts.

Putin badly miscalculated how much the Ukrainian resistance, backed by the U.S. MIC/NATO, would be - he was way too soft in the beginning. Prolly because of poor military intelligence Vlad was given - this tends to happen in ossified kleptocracies and communist societies where people are afraid to speak their minds to their superiors.

I foresee a stalemate of sorts - there's a lot of domestic pressure for Russia to turn up the offensive and at least secure the Donbas.

A stalemate with the threat of constant escalation from both sides once again benefits the U.S. MIC - Western Europe will become increasingly dependent on the U.S. more and more, for many different things.

Meanwhile, more Russians die, as well as Ukrainians.

So, I ask again - who's really "winning?"

Is MIC winning? James Tweedie on Saker quotes some numbers/details:

But NATO is really just a pyramid scheme to sell overpriced Western, especially US, arms to its vassals. And therein lies a contradiction, because the US military-industrial complex (MIC) has competition from those of the UK, Germany, France and even Sweden — a country with a smaller population than the city of Moscow.

The Ukraine has used the referenda on unification with Russia as the latest pretext to demand Germany donate its newest models of Leopard 2 tanks and Marder infantry fighting vehicles. But why doesn’t Kiev ask the US for some of its M1 Abrams and M2 Bradleys instead? The Pentagon has many more to spare.

The truth is that neither Germany nor the US can afford to have its supposedly-invincible wunderwaffen shown up, and blown up, in battle with Russian forces. Despite weighing only two-thirds as much as the US and German behemoths, the Russian tanks have about the same effective armour protection — thanks to state-of-the-art ERA technology — and guns of equal destructive power. And there are a lot more Russian tanks, anti-tank missiles, attack jets and helicopters on the battlefield in the Ukraine.

The US has only managed to sell the M1 to eight other countries, compared to 18 for the Leopard 2. The export model of the Abrams is ‘Nerfed’ by removing the depleted uranium rods from its composite armour, so countries like Australia and Saudi Arabia get sub-par tanks. The only overseas customer for the British Challenger 2 is Oman, while the French Leclerc tank has been exported to the United Arab Emirates and Jordan.

By contrast, the Russian T-72 is currently in service in 40 countries, including both Russia and the Ukraine. Like the Russian intervention in Syria, the war in the Ukraine could prove to be a serious marketing tool for the Russian arms industry — eating the US MIC’s lunch.

https://thesaker.is/will-the-ukraine-de ... se-itself/

[Budge]

AmeriCANs,
AmeriCANTs,
AmeriCUNTs,

At this point in the game, I'm not sure how helpful this is.

Dunno - made me larf

[Do-or-Die]

AmeriCANs,
AmeriCANTs,
AmeriCUNTs,

At this point in the game, I'm not sure how helpful this is.

Dunno - made me larf

Hahahaha, have to agree it made me almost choke on my coffee.

[Do-or-Die]

AmeriCANs,
AmeriCANTs,
AmeriCUNTs,

At this point in the game, I'm not sure how helpful this is.

Dunno - made me larf

Along those lines you might like this one

The craven sycophancy demonstrated by Germany, France and the United Kingdom in their passionate embrace of America’s confrontation with Russia is now on life support. Despite continued bombastic threats to keep arming Ukraine until Russia collapses, economic reality is hitting the Europeans like an icy cold shower from a fire hose. Rapid inflation, particularly in the energy sector, is forcing factories and businesses to shutter operations. The de-industrialization of Europe, especially Germany and the UK, has started. German steel plants are closing, German bakeries are trying to figure out how to pay soaring utility bills while still making bread and pretzels and German toilet-paper manufacturer Hakle GmbH has applied for insolvency proceedings in self-administration. If you don’t have a bidet or a bucket full of sand, toilet paper is an essential item. The inflationary spiral may lead to the day where it is cheaper to wipe your ass with a 100 Euro note than three sheets of Hakle.

https://sonar21.com/will-europe-break-w ... ed-states/

[Budge]

At this point in the game, I'm not sure how helpful this is.

Dunno - made me larf

Along those lines you might like this one

The craven sycophancy demonstrated by Germany, France and the United Kingdom in their passionate embrace of America’s confrontation with Russia is now on life support. Despite continued bombastic threats to keep arming Ukraine until Russia collapses, economic reality is hitting the Europeans like an icy cold shower from a fire hose. Rapid inflation, particularly in the energy sector, is forcing factories and businesses to shutter operations. The de-industrialization of Europe, especially Germany and the UK, has started. German steel plants are closing, German bakeries are trying to figure out how to pay soaring utility bills while still making bread and pretzels and German toilet-paper manufacturer Hakle GmbH has applied for insolvency proceedings in self-administration. If you don’t have a bidet or a bucket full of sand, toilet paper is an essential item. The inflationary spiral may lead to the day where it is cheaper to wipe your ass with a 100 Euro note than three sheets of Hakle.

https://sonar21.com/will-europe-break-w ... ed-states/

Ah yes. But the problem is absorbency or lack of it of paper money. Any of our British colleagues old enough to remember Bronco Brand toilet paper. Like wiping your arse with wax paper!! School kids wandered around like Charlie Brown's Pig Pen followed by a horde of flies.

[SOL]

Ah yes. But the problem is absorbency or lack of it of paper money. Any of our British colleagues old enough to remember Bronco Brand toilet paper. Like wiping your arse with wax paper!! School kids wandered around like Charlie Brown's Pig Pen followed by a horde of flies.

A walk down memory lane for some lol



Roll of "Bronco" lavatory paper, made by the British Patent Perforated Paper Company Ltd., London, E9 England, 1935-1950, 700 SHEETS/[SQUARE] BRONCO PAPER/TRADE MARK/"BRONCO"~ THE/De Luxe/TOILET PAPER/GUARANTEED 100% PURE and ASEPTIC/~MADE iN GREAT BRITAIN BY/The BRITISH PERFORATED PAPER CO. LTD. LONDON E.9./...

Rough on one side, shiny on the other and seemingly non-absorbent, toilet papers such this ‘Bronco’ brand would be very familiar to anyone over the age of forty. At one time advertised with the slogan “Bronco, for the bigger wipe”, today much softer and more effective varieties are preferred.

The continuous roll of toilet tissue with sheets we use today was patented in 1870 by the Scott Brothers in Philadelphia. The British Patent Perforated Company was one of the first British firms to produce this type of toilet tissue. Previously, toilet tissue was only sold in boxes of interleaved separate sheets. This roll has approximately 700 smooth sheets of strong paper.

https://collection.sciencemuseumgroup.o ... tory-paper

[harryg]

Izal medicated anyone?

A bit like greasy sandpaper.



It's an orphan brand, a bit like Pearce Duff Blancmange.

No one wants it, but for some reason they can't stop making it.

Ah yes. But the problem is absorbency or lack of it of paper money.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce2dfvDIMUk

[LoriPrecisely]

Ukraine, EU’s dictatorship and change of global order: Lavrov speaks at UNGA
The following are some excerpts from Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov when he spoke at the 77th UN General Assembly on Saturday.
1. The West’s exceptionalism has fueled multiple aggressive wars over the past decades, but the world order is changing, the top diplomat says
2. The ongoing conflict in Ukraine is largely a result of the inability of the collective West to negotiate with Russia and address its security concerns, Lavrov told the UNGA. All the repeated attempts to establish the rules of co-existence made by Moscow have been ignored, he said.
3. For the Anglo-Saxons, who have completely subjugated Europe, Ukraine is simply expendable material in the fight against Russia.
4. NATO declared our country a direct threat on the path to total US dominance, and named China as a long-term strategic challenge,” Lavrov told the UNGA.
5. Recently, Ukrainian military has admitted that the Pentagon chooses its targets, he explained.
6. Having proclaimed victory in the Cold War, Washington elevated itself almost to the rank of the messenger of God on earth, with no obligations, but only ‘sacred’ rights to act with impunity, as it pleases and anywhere,” Lavrov said.
7. Any nation can fall victim to Washington’s ambitions should it somehow anger the “self-styled masters of the world,” Lavrov warned. That fate has befallen the people of Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya and other countries, he added.
8. The minister recalled fresh remarks by European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, who threatened Italy with consequences should right-wing candidates sweep to power, as indicated by polls, in Sunday’s election.
9. Despite all the effort made by the US, its era of dominance is ending and the unipolar world is crumbling, Lavrov said. He added that the future of the world order is being decided now. The question is whether said order will be with “one hegemon, forcing everyone to live according to its notorious ‘rules’ that are beneficial only to itself,” or will be a truly “democratic, just world without blackmail and intimidation of objectionable people, without neo-Nazism and neo-colonialism,” the diplomat said, adding that Moscow firmly stands by the second option.

https://www.rt.com/news/563474-lavrov-unga-world-order/

[bpcw]

Dunno - made me larf

Along those lines you might like this one

Ah yes. But the problem is absorbency or lack of it of paper money. Any of our British colleagues old enough to remember Bronco Brand toilet paper. Like wiping your arse with wax paper!! School kids wandered around like Charlie Brown's Pig Pen followed by a horde of flies.

Thanks for bringing back the nightmares!