Experience with covid vaccine

[MarkD]

Let the games begin. Pfizer shorts might work.

https://legalinsurrection.com/2022/10/p ... ssibility/

[Budge]

Let the games begin. Pfizer shorts might work.

https://legalinsurrection.com/2022/10/p ... ssibility/

And good news about another PFE product Paxlovid from Karl Denninger at The Market Ticker:

The review paper says that interactions between Paxlovid and certain blood thinners can cause an increased risk of bleeding. Interactions between Paxlovid and some cholesterol medications such as statins can be toxic to the liver, and interactions between Paxlovid and certain blood pressure medications could cause low blood pressure, flushing and swelling.

Incidentally the part that causes this appears to be the ritonavir, an AIDS medication that has been used for a long time and thus that it had potentially dangerous interactions with other drugs has been known for over a decade.

Specifically, it is well-documented that statins are dangerous when used with it.

You didn't need your liver, right?

https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=247159

[Tobeornot]

Let the games begin. Pfizer shorts might work.

https://legalinsurrection.com/2022/10/p ... ssibility/

And good news about another PFE product Paxlovid from Karl Denninger at The Market Ticker:

The review paper says that interactions between Paxlovid and certain blood thinners can cause an increased risk of bleeding. Interactions between Paxlovid and some cholesterol medications such as statins can be toxic to the liver, and interactions between Paxlovid and certain blood pressure medications could cause low blood pressure, flushing and swelling.

Incidentally the part that causes this appears to be the ritonavir, an AIDS medication that has been used for a long time and thus that it had potentially dangerous interactions with other drugs has been known for over a decade.

Specifically, it is well-documented that statins are dangerous when used with it.

You didn't need your liver, right?

https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=247159

And yet nothing will happen to the Pfizer bastards. Crime pays it seems. Hopefully I am wrong

[bpcw]

Let the games begin. Pfizer shorts might work.

https://legalinsurrection.com/2022/10/p ... ssibility/

And good news about another PFE product Paxlovid from Karl Denninger at The Market Ticker:

The review paper says that interactions between Paxlovid and certain blood thinners can cause an increased risk of bleeding. Interactions between Paxlovid and some cholesterol medications such as statins can be toxic to the liver, and interactions between Paxlovid and certain blood pressure medications could cause low blood pressure, flushing and swelling.

Incidentally the part that causes this appears to be the ritonavir, an AIDS medication that has been used for a long time and thus that it had potentially dangerous interactions with other drugs has been known for over a decade.

Specifically, it is well-documented that statins are dangerous when used with it.

You didn't need your liver, right?

https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=247159

And yet nothing will happen to the Pfizer bastards. Crime pays it seems. Hopefully I am wrong

Don't worry Jesus will judge em!

[Yodean]

By Tyler Durden

Why is Big Pharma investigating their own covid vaccines for myocarditis side effects if the vaccines were already supposedly tested and proven safe and effective?

Both Pfizer and Moderna have announced that they will be undertaking studies to determine the longer term risks of Myocarditis (an inflammatory condition of the heart which can lead to death) for people who have been injected with the mRNA based covid vaccines.

The decision comes after the release of multiple medical studies which show a correlation and causation between the vaccines and an exponential increase in heart problems, specifically among men 40 years old and younger. Only a year ago the link between covid vaccinations and myocarditis was widely denied.

Studies also show that myocarditis risk increases with the number of boosters a person has taken.

Before the year 2020, the average vaccine was tested and re-tested by pharmaceutical companies and the FDA for 10 to 15 years before it could be released to the public. This was done not only because testing is a complex process with a lot of red tape involved, but also because it is the only way to discover any long term side-effects that might be associated with a particular immunization product. If you read any medical journal or scientific outline on vaccine development published before 2020, they all agree that long term testing is necessary for public safety.

Suddenly, after 2020 and the advent of public activism against the covid mandates, a host of medical “professionals” and bureaucrats began arguing that the mRNA vaccines do not need the same lengthy testing time frame because government funding allowed for everything to be accomplished much faster. This is a lie.

What really happened? Governments fast tracked approval using national emergency measures allowing Big Pharma to skip necessary tests and trials.

Example: Pfizer representatives recently admitted under oath that they never tested the covid vaccine to see if it actually prevented transmission of the virus. They simply claimed that it did without verification.

And governments began trying to enforce vaccines requirements on the populace based on the false claim that vaccination stops the spread.

Mainstream media “fact checkers” insist that the covid vaccines were “initially effective” in preventing transmission of the original strains of the virus. There is no concrete evidence to confirm this.

In fact, covid cases of the original variants began to plunge in the US and in other countries before the vaccines were widely distributed.

This is a fact, and the incredible drop in cases was likely due to an increase in natural immunity within the population.

[Budge]

By Tyler Durden

Why is Big Pharma investigating their own covid vaccines for myocarditis side effects if the vaccines were already supposedly tested and proven safe and effective?

Both Pfizer and Moderna have announced that they will be undertaking studies to determine the longer term risks of Myocarditis (an inflammatory condition of the heart which can lead to death) for people who have been injected with the mRNA based covid vaccines.

The decision comes after the release of multiple medical studies which show a correlation and causation between the vaccines and an exponential increase in heart problems, specifically among men 40 years old and younger. Only a year ago the link between covid vaccinations and myocarditis was widely denied.

Studies also show that myocarditis risk increases with the number of boosters a person has taken.

Before the year 2020, the average vaccine was tested and re-tested by pharmaceutical companies and the FDA for 10 to 15 years before it could be released to the public. This was done not only because testing is a complex process with a lot of red tape involved, but also because it is the only way to discover any long term side-effects that might be associated with a particular immunization product. If you read any medical journal or scientific outline on vaccine development published before 2020, they all agree that long term testing is necessary for public safety.

Suddenly, after 2020 and the advent of public activism against the covid mandates, a host of medical “professionals” and bureaucrats began arguing that the mRNA vaccines do not need the same lengthy testing time frame because government funding allowed for everything to be accomplished much faster. This is a lie.

What really happened? Governments fast tracked approval using national emergency measures allowing Big Pharma to skip necessary tests and trials.

Example: Pfizer representatives recently admitted under oath that they never tested the covid vaccine to see if it actually prevented transmission of the virus. They simply claimed that it did without verification.

And governments began trying to enforce vaccines requirements on the populace based on the false claim that vaccination stops the spread.

Mainstream media “fact checkers” insist that the covid vaccines were “initially effective” in preventing transmission of the original strains of the virus. There is no concrete evidence to confirm this.

In fact, covid cases of the original variants began to plunge in the US and in other countries before the vaccines were widely distributed.

This is a fact, and the incredible drop in cases was likely due to an increase in natural immunity within the population.

Evil stalks the globe

[SOL]

By Tyler Durden

Why is Big Pharma investigating their own covid vaccines for myocarditis side effects if the vaccines were already supposedly tested and proven safe and effective?

Both Pfizer and Moderna have announced that they will be undertaking studies to determine the longer term risks of Myocarditis (an inflammatory condition of the heart which can lead to death) for people who have been injected with the mRNA based covid vaccines.

The decision comes after the release of multiple medical studies which show a correlation and causation between the vaccines and an exponential increase in heart problems, specifically among men 40 years old and younger. Only a year ago the link between covid vaccinations and myocarditis was widely denied.

Studies also show that myocarditis risk increases with the number of boosters a person has taken.

Before the year 2020, the average vaccine was tested and re-tested by pharmaceutical companies and the FDA for 10 to 15 years before it could be released to the public. This was done not only because testing is a complex process with a lot of red tape involved, but also because it is the only way to discover any long term side-effects that might be associated with a particular immunization product. If you read any medical journal or scientific outline on vaccine development published before 2020, they all agree that long term testing is necessary for public safety.

Suddenly, after 2020 and the advent of public activism against the covid mandates, a host of medical “professionals” and bureaucrats began arguing that the mRNA vaccines do not need the same lengthy testing time frame because government funding allowed for everything to be accomplished much faster. This is a lie.

What really happened? Governments fast tracked approval using national emergency measures allowing Big Pharma to skip necessary tests and trials.

Example: Pfizer representatives recently admitted under oath that they never tested the covid vaccine to see if it actually prevented transmission of the virus. They simply claimed that it did without verification.

And governments began trying to enforce vaccines requirements on the populace based on the false claim that vaccination stops the spread.

Mainstream media “fact checkers” insist that the covid vaccines were “initially effective” in preventing transmission of the original strains of the virus. There is no concrete evidence to confirm this.

In fact, covid cases of the original variants began to plunge in the US and in other countries before the vaccines were widely distributed.

This is a fact, and the incredible drop in cases was likely due to an increase in natural immunity within the population.

We are all bugs on the wall waiting to get smashed unless we change our outlooks; the bad guys always win, no matter how hard the small guy tries he is always left with an empty rusty can that is full of crap. What's the moral? There are many, but I will let budge, Yodean, Astute, Harry, Scott, Nicolas, Eric and many others chime in.

[Yodean]

We are all bugs on the wall waiting to get smashed unless we change our outlooks; the bad guys always win, no matter how hard the small guy tries he is always left with an empty rusty can that is full of crap. What's the moral? There are many, but I will let budge, Yodean, Astute, Harry, Scott, Nicolas, Eric and many others chime in.

I tend to lean towards the basic idea that morality is generally relative to circumstances.

As for why the Dark seems to generally "win" against the Light, I have no clear answers, leaving aside the concept that "darkness" and "light" are filters in their own right. Both must exist for each to be present.

Another consideration is that in most of the major mainstream world religions, the concept of sin includes actions like murder, theft, rape, torture, etc.

These religions teach that those who perform these actions should be punished in some fashion, whether on Metaverse Earth or in Metaverse Hell or Metaverse Purgatory. Or to be reincarnated as a lower-level avatar on Metaverse Earth again.

What if one includes the "relative sin" of ignorance?

I.e. if one views ignorance or stupidity - on a relative basis - as somewhat of a sin, that would change the perspective on a whole host of issues.

So, those who follow blindly, get jabbed, and suffer side-effects/die ... in essence, are being punished for their "sin" of ignorance/stupidity, and paying the appropriate price.

Likewise for those who fall prey to financial scams, etc.

I am not stating that I necessarily subscribe to this perspective, but it occurred to me awhile back and I found it somewhat interesting.

How would the world look if the major mainstream world religions taught that pure obedience and the lack of independent, critical thinking were sins that deserved some degree of punishment?

In some ways, this ties in with Plato's Allegory of the Cave.

[scott]

We are all bugs on the wall waiting to get smashed unless we change our outlooks; the bad guys always win, no matter how hard the small guy tries he is always left with an empty rusty can that is full of crap. What's the moral? There are many, but I will let budge, Yodean, Astute, Harry, Scott, Nicolas, Eric and many others chime in.

Not bugs on the wall, peeps with aspirations. Go for the main course, might get smacked down. The leftovers be aplenty.

Light, dark, moral, immoral, good, bad? Is there a correlation (and inverse correlation) between them?

Physicists say there is more dark matter in our universe than light (what we can see) matter. They can't measure it directly, but do so mathematically, since it has the same gravity effect as light matter.

Joel Gold, an eminent psychiatrist and professor at NYU made an analogy between light/dark matter and conscious/unconscious "parts" of our mind. People want a stable marriage, but continue to cheat on their spouse. Investors want to make a lot of money, but lose it. Aristotle defined man as a rational animal. Contradictions like these show we're not so rational. Our unconscious mind is irrational. Before Freud we were limited to our conscious awareness trying to explain our incompatible thoughts, feelings and motivations. The unconscious can explain why supposedly rational people are irrational. Mind you (pun intended) the conscious mind is a small fraction of the mental world. The unconscious wields a lot more gravity.

Why is there more dark matter than light, more unconscious than conscious. Our science would dictate everything should balance. Well, our universe is not static, its evolving, the pendulum swinging.

Concerning morality, I found solace in "Cosmic Consciousness: A Study in the Evolution of the Human Mind", recommended by TI. Burke, the author contends that morality is evolving genetically.

The human moral nature includes many faculties, such as conscience, the abstract sense of right and wrong, sexual love as distinguished from sexual desire or instinct, parental and filial love as distinguished from the corresponding instincts (man has both these instincts in common with the brutes as well as the higher feelings), love of our fellow men as such, love of the beautiful, awe, reverence, sense of duty or responsibility, sympathy, compassion, faith. No human nature is complete without these and others; it is therefore a very complex function; but for the purpose of the present argument, it must be treated as if it were a simple sense. Now at what age does this human moral nature appear in individual man? It is never present in quite young children. It is often still absent at puberty and even at adolescence. It is a late acquired faculty. It would probably not be far wrong to say that the average age for its appearance in the individual is somewhere about fifteen years. It would seem clear from a study of history that our human moral nature cannot be more than some ten or twelve thousand years old. For a careful consideration of the records that have come down to us from the early Romans, Hellenes, Hebrews, Egyptians, Assyrians and Babylonians would.

So, bpcw might find it in his heart to forgive Plato. Burke (self-proclaimed as enlightened) thought (in 1909) that perhaps one in 20-25 people has no morals. So hard to measure morality, subjective as it is, also, what is learned and expected versus what is genetic; Nature vs. Nurture.

So, I have hopes for mankind, knowing hope is not a plan (best laid plans of mice and men). Having miniscule to no purview, hope geneticists find the morality (not mortality) gene, and physicists figure out fusion power. As for me, let's roll!

Edit/add... WTF does this have to do with CV19? Nazis?

[bpcw]

Firstly Scott, lol, I have nothing to forgive Plato for, hasn't harmed me as far as I'm aware, just stating facts about the dark side of his philosophy!

Evolution is bs so not much hope of morality evolving, what invisible mechanisms are we talking about for this evolution to be guided in a particular direction. How does one know a line is squigly until one knows what a straight line is. We know that the universe has entropy, it is going from order to chaos. God declared that because of sin the whole of creation had become corrupted, that is what we observe with the exception of man's technological advances (intelligent design).

Before God's revelation through Christ of what his moral laws are and the explosion of Christianity around the world and it's influence on our societies people lived in savagery and brutality, children being sacrificed to imaginary gods etc.. The US was founded on Christianity and before it GB and across Europe. Our legal system, education, national health etc. are all founded by Christian thought. Most probably have no idea how much influence Christianity has on them, morality didn't evolve or come randomly out of the ether, it has a supernatural mind behind it.

Darkness is the absence of light, whenever light comes it exposes what's hidden in the dark. No one says "can someone turn the dark up in here". Jesus is the light that came into the world, for those who choose the light there is eternal life, most choose the dark but their deeds will be exposed when their time comes. These are spiritual things, not of the physical world. This life is short and most only focus on it. Satan is the god of this world and he is in control for a time, he along with demonic forces work in darkness but he can never extinguish the light. Our bodies and everything of the world is subject to it, but our spirits which are not of this world and are only alive in Christ cannot be harmed by the darkness.

“Don’t be afraid of those who want to kill your body; they cannot touch your soul. Fear only God, who can destroy both soul and body in hell. Matthew 10:28

The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance. 2 Peter 3:9

The true light that gives light to everyone was coming into the world. He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God— children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God.
John 1:9‭-‬13.


Do not take the jab, come into the light - that's a comment just so this has some relevance to the covid vaccine!

[stefk]

Amen and inch buddha.....namasté

[bpcw]

Amen and inch buddha.....namasté

I will say more later, off to share the Gospel with people now!

[scott]

Evolution is bs so not much hope of morality evolving...

Thanks for staying on topic bpcw! I wouldn't say evolution is BS, maybe its a feature of the "Creation".

[bpcw]

So Jesus was a good man and what good did it do him, he ended up nailed to a cross, darkness defeated light, you guy's are so right!

Now look at this verse:

You were dead because of your sins and because your sinful nature was not yet cut away. Then God made you alive with Christ, for he forgave all our sins. He canceled the record of the charges against us and took it away by nailing it to the cross. In this way, he disarmed the spiritual rulers and authorities. He shamed them publicly by his victory over them on the cross.
Colossians 2:13‭-‬15

So the claim is that Jesus's death on the cross was a victory, doesn't seem like it does it, until you pay attention to the word spiritual in there.
The penalty for sin is death, Jesus though he never sinned died for all mankind's sins by paying our debt, and it is imputed to us through faith. Satan's power of spiritual death over us was defeated and there is a way to spiritual life now. So Jesus went to the cross willingly in order to provide the way through which we could be set free into spiritual life, what seemed like a defeat was a victory.

Because God’s children are human beings—made of flesh and blood—the Son also became flesh and blood. For only as a human being could he die, and only by dying could he break the power of the devil, who had the power of death. Only in this way could he set free all who have lived their lives as slaves to the fear of dying. Hebrews 2:14‭-‬15

For the joy set before him he endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.
Hebrews 12:2

Now don't be tempted to think this is a dualistic battle, God is all powerful and Satan is a maggot compared to God but he has certain powers for now until his final fate.

[bpcw]

Evolution is bs so not much hope of morality evolving...

Thanks for staying on topic bpcw! I wouldn't say evolution is BS, maybe its a feature of the "Creation".

Many Christians believe in evolution and that this was God's mechanism for our eventual appearance and that many of the old testament stories were metaphoricall in nature, not to be taken literally but that they contain certain messages.

However, there is a big theological issue with this, you would have to believe that God created a world with death, pain and suffering from the outset. A much better and more Biblical understanding is that there was no death, pain or suffering in the beginning and as it says that death came through sin and the whole of creation fell at that point and continues to by it. We are told that one day Jesus will restore all things for creation and believers and that the last thing to be defeated is death itself and the Lion will lay with the lamb. There is very good scientific theory to support this now there is an awful lot wrong with evolution as a scientific theory, all they can really prove is adaptation within a kind (dog, cat, horse etc.).