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bpcw wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:31 pm Just look at these 2 statements from the same article:

On Tuesday, the government confirmed that 36 of the 54 passengers had tested positive. It said in a post on Facebook that all passengers are currently being monitored by health officials..
All of the passengers on the flight are fully vaccinated, the government said.


"The only way that we can fight this virus is through complete vaccination," the office of President Taneti Maamau said on Facebook. "The public is urged to complete their vaccination doses in order to protect themselves and families."

So what is the rational here, clearly vaccines don't reduce transmission. Is it really that we must all be vaccinated to protect ourselves, but isn't that then a choice if we are only protecting ourselves and cannot protect others through vaccination. Or are they just being thick?

Here's the full article if you wish to read: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-60092463
There are many holes in the vaccination argument, but the one that you have highlighted here seems to me to be the most, aah, I was going to say transparent but a transparent hole, ugh, never mind, keep going, no one will notice.

The official line is that by getting vaccinated you do not reduce your chance of getting the virus and you do not reduce your chance of transmitting the virus. This, so far as I can tell, is close to the truth. What they do claim is that a vaccinated individual will get less ill when they contract the virus. I can't assess if that is true or not.

Therefore if you believe what you are told, the idea that one should get vaccinated to protect others is clearly false - it would be to protect oneself. It does make me wonder why this argument was chosen in the first place.

Also, as an aside, I find it quite fascinating how quickly the UK seems to have changed course and with so little comment.
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harryg wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 3:43 pm
bpcw wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:31 pm Just look at these 2 statements from the same article:

On Tuesday, the government confirmed that 36 of the 54 passengers had tested positive. It said in a post on Facebook that all passengers are currently being monitored by health officials..
All of the passengers on the flight are fully vaccinated, the government said.


"The only way that we can fight this virus is through complete vaccination," the office of President Taneti Maamau said on Facebook. "The public is urged to complete their vaccination doses in order to protect themselves and families."

So what is the rational here, clearly vaccines don't reduce transmission. Is it really that we must all be vaccinated to protect ourselves, but isn't that then a choice if we are only protecting ourselves and cannot protect others through vaccination. Or are they just being thick?

Here's the full article if you wish to read: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-60092463
There are many holes in the vaccination argument, but the one that you have highlighted here seems to me to be the most, aah, I was going to say transparent but a transparent hole, ugh, never mind, keep going, no one will notice.

The official line is that by getting vaccinated you do not reduce your chance of getting the virus and you do not reduce your chance of transmitting the virus. This, so far as I can tell, is close to the truth. What they do claim is that a vaccinated individual will get less ill when they contract the virus. I can't assess if that is true or not.

Therefore if you believe what you are told, the idea that one should get vaccinated to protect others is clearly false - it would be to protect oneself. It does make me wonder why this argument was chosen in the first place.

Also, as an aside, I find it quite fascinating how quickly the UK seems to have changed course and with so little comment.
I didn't know Gates funded the BBC but makes a lot of sense!

If you're right that the official line is that the vaccines only help you as an individual then logic states that it should be a choice and medical passports etc. should be scrapped, I suspect they are not wanting to show that their nazi restrictions was never backed up by any evidence.
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SOL wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:33 pm
Budge wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:16 pm
Budge wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:47 pm Laugh he said it can't get any worse, so he did, and it did!

Die in France having had clot shots and it might be considered as suicide. Not great if your life insurance has a provision against experimental drugs:

"The case is currently causing a stir and sensation in France. A rich, elderly Parisian businessman from Versailles, who had taken out many life insurance policies (worth millions) for the benefit of his children and grandchildren, dies of a Covid vaccination (not disputed by the doctors or his life insurers). But now it gets worse: the insurance company does not pay out the insurance money because the deceased was acting at his own risk when he had the Corona vaccination."

"The reasoning is quite clear: the insurance company refused to pay to the family because the policy explicitly excludes the use of experimental medicines and treatments (including the Corona vaccination). The family consequently sues the insurance company, but ultimately fails."

https://ussanews.com/french-court-rules ... voluntar2/

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harryg wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 3:43 pm
bpcw wrote: Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:31 pm Just look at these 2 statements from the same article:

On Tuesday, the government confirmed that 36 of the 54 passengers had tested positive. It said in a post on Facebook that all passengers are currently being monitored by health officials..
All of the passengers on the flight are fully vaccinated, the government said.


"The only way that we can fight this virus is through complete vaccination," the office of President Taneti Maamau said on Facebook. "The public is urged to complete their vaccination doses in order to protect themselves and families."

So what is the rational here, clearly vaccines don't reduce transmission. Is it really that we must all be vaccinated to protect ourselves, but isn't that then a choice if we are only protecting ourselves and cannot protect others through vaccination. Or are they just being thick?

Here's the full article if you wish to read: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-60092463

There are many holes in the vaccination argument, but the one that you have highlighted here seems to me to be the most, aah, I was going to say transparent but a transparent hole, ugh, never mind, keep going, no one will notice.

The official line is that by getting vaccinated you do not reduce your chance of getting the virus and you do not reduce your chance of transmitting the virus. This, so far as I can tell, is close to the truth. What they do claim is that a vaccinated individual will get less ill when they contract the virus. I can't assess if that is true or not.

Therefore if you believe what you are told, the idea that one should get vaccinated to protect others is clearly false - it would be to protect oneself. It does make me wonder why this argument was chosen in the first place.

Also, as an aside, I find it quite fascinating how quickly the UK seems to have changed course and with so little comment.
The bigger the lie the more often it has to be repeated. Meanwhile, Boris will pander to maintain power so he can continue Groundhog Day and screw the UK all over again (if he stays in).

Not looked into why Ireland is following suit.
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The more money that is printed the higher the population rises the more corruption there will be. It is amazing how most don't realize that both are necessary ingredients for malfeasance to surge.
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https://youtu.be/Cy6Nn944aiY

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Too little, too late, perhaps, as the PTBs are slowly moving to other narratives to continue to steal your money and whatever is left of your individual rights, but it's a nice three-minute clip and the group did pass our residence. My spouse also participated briefly. I declined to join, as I was in the middle of a headstand.

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Yodean. Interesting data. Can you provide a link?
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Yes interesting chart and interesting bias in the small print.

They are keen to point out the the number of deaths are skewed because most people who are vulnerable are vaccinated but not so with young people who are not vaccinated, especially under 12 for example.

They do not point out that you need to add the 4 right hand columns and get a total for those who have been vaccinated, that's my understanding anyway.

Also they do not clarify what mentioning covid on the certificate means, I know a consultant who works in a hospital in the UK who said during the first wave in 2020 "they are desperate to put covid on the death certificate", so presumably now they are desperate to mention it on the unvaccinated death certificates who have died and desperate to not put it on those who have been vaccinated, all they have to do is mention it, bingo!!!

Stats can always be manipulated, and let's face it, they are just plain lying with the facts in most cases.
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"One of these things is not like the others,
One of these things just doesn't belong," (Sesame St)

A case making the news:

"A Florida-based clinical research firm project manager was sentenced to 30 months in prison because of his involvement in a conspiracy to falsify clinical drug trial data. Previously, the primary investigator, clinic owner, and another senior employee at Miami-based Tellus Clinical Research were charged with various counts of mail and wire fraud, money laundering, as well as making false statements to Food and Drug Administration (FDA) inspectors."

https://www.natlawreview.com/article/ph ... sification

You have to do a bit of digging to find what pharma companies benefitted:

"The trials were to evaluate a drug for irritable bowel syndrome, opioid dependency and diabetic nephropathy. In the past, Tellus has worked with giants such as Pfizer, Gilead and Takeda. Work on some of those trials came into question in the past, including trials on opioid dependency — sponsored by Braeburn Pharmaceuticals — and diabetes, run by Gilead. Last March, four more employees, including the owner, were charged with conspiracy to commit mail and wire fraud and money laundering charges."

https://www.investorvillage.com/smbd.as ... d=22866365

On the other hand, we have a whistleblower case:

"A former testing site researcher in Texas has alleged that Pfizer’s pre-licensure BNT162b2 (also known as “Comirnaty”) COVID-19 biologic trials included falsification of data, unblinding patients, employing inadequately trained vaccinators, and delays in following up on experimental COVID vaccine adverse reaction reports."

"After Jackson reported protocol violations, she received a follow up e-mail and call from the FDA but was told that no further information could be provided. Following FDA’s approval of Pfizer’s COVID biologic, the FDA published a summary of its inspections of the trial. Of the 153 clinical trial sites, only nine were inspected. Ventavia’s sites were not listed among those inspected by FDA despite Jackson’s report directly to the FDA."

https://thevaccinereaction.org/2022/01/ ... gic-trial/

Maybe Tellus and the pharma companies didn't "talk" to the right people or pay large enough "user fees"?

Nothing to see here, move along. Meanwhile in other news:

"Sales of Pfizer COVID-19 Biologic for 2021-2022 May Near $70 Billion"

https://thevaccinereaction.org/2022/01/ ... 0-billion/
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The big boys got very sloppy and greedy. Taking on one country is not a big deal but taking on the world most of which they are losing control of was a bad mistake. There will be blow back, the question is how hard?
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SOL wrote: Fri Jan 28, 2022 1:19 pm The big boys got very sloppy and greedy. Taking on one country is not a big deal but taking on the world most of which they are losing control of was a bad mistake. There will be blow back, the question is how hard?
The big boys, you mean the ones in public?

Are the shadow players lining up these fat tunas for heads to be rolled like you mentioned before, I find it pretty fascinating how ruthless they can be.
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It's great to see the trucker protest in Canada, how far it will get I just don't know as the majority still seem to be buying into the usual narrative.

Can any Canadians here shed any light on the situation, is it changing opinion or just polarising even more?

Here in the UK they have lifted the legal requirement to wear masks in supermarkets on Thursday but my observation is that most are still wearing them, whether through fear or virtue signalling.
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The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.
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