What I've healed from

[hooligan]

aquifers are generally better than reservoirs, which are open air. minerals have all kinds of anti-bacterial and filtration properties.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telluric_current

different minerals also have different electrical properties. Underground water flows over big and varying caverns and rocks. electric currents flow through the earth. this is the earth's lightning system but not only. human body is electric. "charged" water may be healthier, or different, etc. sacred ground and springs may have been revered for good reason.

dowsers are still used in modern prospecting. people still don't know how they do it. look it up.

none of this is that fancy. it's just more open minded than the main stream, which wants you to turn your mind off and take the pills and have the surgeries.

you should be careful not to confuse skepticism with closed-minded pessimism. discoveries are made from passion, and refined through skepticism. remember that.

sunlight is electric (think solar panels). fruits contain a sort of concentrated sunlight, mixed into an ionized, mineralized liquid.... contained in little silica-infused pockets or pulp ... protected by calcium rich housing . . . .

some perspective on what lemon juice does to your drinking water. or what an orange can do for your bloodstream. .. ..

it isn't really that controversial to say we are "made from" sunlight , and the ground , and the water , and the air ... and maybe the lightning too . . . . . . .

healthy to take interest in these things. unhealthy to ignore them, and squash every innocent curiosity towards these concepts. fake "skeptics" who just feed off of pessimism honestly make me sick.

[hooligan]

fun tidbit on organisms that comprise themselves of their surroundings

snails from deep thermal sea vents with iron shells

https://www.ripleys.com/weird-news/iron-shelled-snails/

there are also numerous sea animals known to be immortal, metabolism wise. definitely a good thing to stay curious about

[Triplethought]

aquifers are generally better than reservoirs, which are open air. minerals have all kinds of anti-bacterial and filtration properties.
That is possible. But take a look at this great article and read myth #4. He makes a good point about the minerals and quantities in water.
https://www.megahome-distillers.co.uk/n ... lled-water

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telluric_current

different minerals also have different electrical properties. Underground water flows over big and varying caverns and rocks. electric currents flow through the earth. this is the earth's lightning system but not only. human body is electric. "charged" water may be healthier, or different, etc. sacred ground and springs may have been revered for good reason.

dowsers are still used in modern prospecting. people still don't know how they do it. look it up.

dowsing doesn't work. period. exclamation point. Millions believe it does. It doesn't. I have tested many claimants on this myself. Believe me this is a subject I'm familiar with. I was part of the JREF and one of a group of people that combined a pool of money and offered a $1Million prize for any dowser who could demonstrate under controlled conditions that they could do it. No one ever claimed the prize. Not EVER in 20 years of trying. Look up James Randi to see the videos. I tested one guy who swore he used it every day to find underground sprinkler systems. We went to a playground and I buried a pipe in an 8x8 grid. He failed miserably. yet after failing he would not accept his obvious failure. Such is the power of the ideomotor effect

none of this is that fancy. it's just more open minded than the main stream, which wants you to turn your mind off and take the pills and have the surgeries.

you should be careful not to confuse skepticism with closed-minded pessimism. discoveries are made from passion, and refined through skepticism. remember that.
I can agree with that statement. I don't care what the "mainstream" wants me to think. But when an idea can't be explained scientifically and/or tested using peer reviewed double blinded science, it's important not to let the passion or wishful thinking override logic.

sunlight is electric (think solar panels).
Not really. sunlight is radiation from a fusion reaction. that radiation can be converted to electricity. Are there charged particles involved? Sure solar flares and the like if that's what you mean by electric.

fruits contain a sort of concentrated sunlight, mixed into an ionized, mineralized liquid.... contained in little silica-infused pockets or pulp ... protected by calcium rich housing . . . .

some perspective on what lemon juice does to your drinking water. or what an orange can do for your bloodstream. .. ..
Certainly there are nutrients there. No arguing it could be beneficial. hard to test I think though.

it isn't really that controversial to say we are "made from" sunlight , and the ground , and the water , and the air ... and maybe the lightning too . . . . . . .
I agree with you on this. That's why every form of energy in the world is really fusion in disguise. Burning a log is releasing energy from a plant that captured fusion energy from a distance. Same with oil, coal etc. wind is really from the sun's fusion reaction warming the atmosphere and moving air. With only 1 or 2 exceptions (gravitational and earth's core) all energy is fusion and that includes us.

healthy to take interest in these things. unhealthy to ignore them, and squash every innocent curiosity towards these concepts. fake "skeptics" who just feed off of pessimism honestly make me sick.

Trust me I'm a real skeptic and I don't enjoy pessimism. I'm Card carrying and I put my money where my mouth is. I participate in skeptics conferences, fund skeptical inquiry, and base my opinions on double blind peer reviewed science. There are many things science doesn't know or gets wrong but over time science will eventually correct itself. You don't pray space shuttles into space my friend. And you don't theorize them into space either. I have zero understanding for made up theories, snake oil salesmen, self deluded people. If it pisses you off or seems I squash every innocent curiosity I'm sorry. It's just that there are soooo many wrong headed ideas in this world that to me it's important to call bullshit when I see one. I realize that you don't make many friends telling people they may be wrong. The best I can do is try to be polite about it.

[hooligan]

Trust me I'm a real skeptic and I don't enjoy pessimism. I'm Card carrying and I put my money where my mouth is. I participate in skeptics conferences, fund skeptical inquiry, and base my opinions on double blind peer reviewed science. There are many things science doesn't know or gets wrong but over time science will eventually correct itself. You don't pray space shuttles into space my friend. And you don't theorize them into space either. I have zero understanding for made up theories, snake oil salesmen, self deluded people. If it pisses you off or seems I squash every innocent curiosity I'm sorry. It's just that there are soooo many wrong headed ideas in this world that to me it's important to call bullshit when I see one. I realize that you don't make many friends telling people they may be wrong. The best I can do is try to be polite about it.

A fine reply. Everything you said is agreeable to me overall. Good to know. Cool to have fusion as a primary concept.

I respect your bent overall, the idea-ecosystem requires "weeding". One has to be careful not to squash what may become valuable inquiries just because full rigor isn't yet in play, though. And be careful not to take pleasure in others disappointment. The idea is they really may be on to something, and may discover something new. If you show them a shade of incorrectness at their Current stage, less than generously, it may halt the whole inquiry.

I prefer the chaos gardening approach, as opposed to weeding. I really see very little harm in utterly wild imagination and even schizophrenia, etc. There isn't any point in closing doors. Just leave them open and come back to them later. Something helpful may come through while you aren't looking and tap you on the back. Accidents are also major fuel for progress.

Not convinced on the dowsing. I would say your controlled circumstance is off the mark. The idea would be that a human can feel voltage differences, or subtle magnetic pulls on their own blood. This probably requires larger caverns and bodies of water underground. It's also somewhat of a taboo topic so I'm not surprised you didn't get many calls, though I acknowledge that $1million is enticing. Stigmatized people keep to themselves. Matters of advertising etc. Better would be to actually go looking for people who succeed regularly. I have seen decent reports of this. If you're near tahoe . . . . large magnetic fields may throw off anyone's ability to sense smaller objects or flows of water.

"monster magnet meets blood"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVsWTkD2M6Q&t=400s

Regarding mineral water, it's instructive to acknowledge the idea of trace minerals in the body, and how they're just as crucial nutritionally despite being required in very tiny amounts. They serve special roles in cellular functions. Less can be more in our world.

Low presence of mineral content in water may have important consequences for the water's electric properties, what sorts of electric waveforms it can conduct etc. And which minerals may make a difference. Etc etc. Health isn't always "input output". It's not only about what the human body intakes, but the charges and flows and dispersion of material, which are hydroelectric internal events. amino acid pathways ... phytochemical glucose pairs which allow for cellular uptake etc. All of our internals are, put crudely, oxygenated, mineralized, electric liquid. (air earth fire water).

the danger with distilled is we didn't evolve with it. so i consider it unprecautionary, given it's such a basic substance for us. why mess with what we evolved with.

[MarkD]

ok kiddos. Time for a change up. Fell on Sunday and fractured my elbow radial cap and ulna in forearm.

Surgery consultation tomorrow. What questios do I need to ask and what answers do I want to hear?

[SOL]

ok kiddos. Time for a change up. Fell on Sunday and fractured my elbow radial cap and ulna in forearm.

Surgery consultation tomorrow. What questios do I need to ask and what answers do I want to hear?

Yodean and Astute are the best suited to answer the surgery aspect. However, I do know many individuals who took cider vinegar three times a day before and after surgery and their recovery rate according to them was much faster. In fact, they all commented on how fast they healed. Btw they all mixed it with raw honey. This could be anecdotal but over the years I have heard at least 12 individuals report similar outcomes.

[MarkD]

Is the cider vingegar consumed straight of diluted? Assuming honey is added to taste.

[SOL]

Is the cider vingegar consumed straight of diluted? Assuming honey is added to taste.

The way it is done is two teaspoons of cider vinegar (you can take up to two tablespoons if you can handle it) mixed in a glass of warm water with a tablespoon or more of raw honey. You can add the honey to taste, sometimes I add up to two tablespoons of honey. Raw cider vinegar has smoother and less acidic taste.

[AstuteShift]

I would shop around and make sure you have a great surgeon, if the surgeon is a money hungry slob then that should have you thinking to find someone else

Another is asking their approach to the surgery, whether they do it alone or train another surgeon. I would go to someone else if he is training someone since who wants to be a Ginny pig to an inexperienced surgeon.

Another is asking the recovery and rehab/physical therapy. Find their reviews if you need to have it

After it’s all done, the key is to remain calm and stress free. Stress adds on to the recovery time.

[MarkD]

Great info. I did see his profile and he is highly recommended but his area of concentration is hand/wrist. Hope he has some expertise in elbow. Or can recommend a colleague that specializes in that joint/forearm.

Appreciate the info!

[Yodean]

Minerals, ions, underground electric currents, kinetic energy of moving water all may play a role in the subjective differences.

Thanks for all the interesting information you posted, hooligan. I am debating whether I should change your moniker (in my subjective Ninja World) from OrangeNinja to WaterNinja.

It's interesting how - despite the somewhat hackneyed and corny public image - Sadhguru talks about water from a Yogic perspective. What you posted would actually support a lot of what he says.

One of his recommendations, besides taking a quick shower before going to sleep, is to take a lot of quick showers or quick dips in the the bath (he used to take seven to eight daily, or more), for energetic or aura cleansing reasons. I've been doing this for a few months as well, and I certainly feel better. And that's from a baseline of generally feeling pretty good.

He also recommends to let your drinking water sit in sunlight when possible, to absorb the benefits of natural sunlight. It's not too onerous for me, so I've been doing this as well. This practice would make sense based on some of what you posted.

Pretty interesting stuff, H20.

https://youtu.be/1TIvgR3KkLU

[hooligan]

Pretty interesting stuff, H20.

i always appreciate sadhguru for some intuitive inspiration. love what he does to try and link the two worlds.

[Cinnamon]

Based on an ancient Hawaiian tradition and some science, sunlight coupled with blue glass can act as a water purification system. Enter SOL Water, a blue glass water bottle that, when left in sunlight, transforms water into purified healing water. It sounds a little outlandish, sure, but so does sticking tiny needles in various locations on your body to relieve aches and pains.
The idea behind solarized water, rooted in color therapy or chromotherapy, is that the penetration of sunlight through blue glass changes the chemical, physical, and biological properties of the water, creating a sort of super water that could potentially provide things like improved hydration, clearer thoughts, and less stress. The science behind solarized water is that when a bottle is left in the sun long enough, the heat and ultraviolet radiation of the sunlight kill bacteria and various other pathogens. SOL Water throws in a charitable component, as well sharing 1 percent of all proceeds to charities, like Water For People, that support clean drinking water in third world countries.

https://www.instyle.com/lifestyle/food- ... n-purified

Hey SOL someone is using your name



Solar Energy and Photosynthesis
What we do know for sure is that both water and sunlight are critical components of biological function.

Sunlight is the main element from which all physical life originates and is energized. In fact, the essential life process is a “little electrical current sent to us by the sunshine,” according to Dr. Szent-Gyorgi, Nobel Prize Laureate. In addition, Gerald Pollack, Ph.D., author of the book The Fourth Phase of Water: Beyond Solid, Liquid, and Vapor," writes that the near-infrared rays of sunlight penetrate our skin and structure the water in our cells, which then act as “light-driven batteries.”

As light hits the water in the cell, it begins the first phase of photosynthesis, splitting water into positively- and negatively-charged water. Healthy human cells are negatively charged.

I think it’s interesting that human photosynthesis is quite similar to plant photosynthesis
https://www.waterbenefitshealth.com/sun ... water.html


Benefits of Sun Charged Water

Energizing water brings life back to water after it looses it’s aliveness that naturally occurs as it leaves its source. Consider that water can only change as at its source it flows over rocks, minerals, and is exposed to sand, dirt, roots, branches, leaves and water life and then is redirected into filtration systems and travels through pipes before reaching it destination! Energize your water by sun charging it, putting clean rocks and minerals in your water container or adding herbs, edible flowers and leaves. Another way of energizing your water has been reflected in the work of Dr. Emoto and his experiments who used different influences to reflect changes in the water through differing crystal shapes the water created when exposed to words, sounds and thoughts.

Water is our main source of energy at a cellular level. It ranks as one of the primary elements for survival of the human body, along with oxygen, salt, and potassium. These four elements along with magnesium are the key elements for energy regulation as fluid passes in and out of our cells.

“The body’s water supply is responsible for and involved in nearly every bodily process, including digestion, absorption, circulation, and excretion. Water is also the primary transporter of nutrients throughout the body and so is necessary for all building functions in the body,” writes Phyllis A. Balch, Prescription for Nutritional Healing.

Personally, I have found that sun charged water creates a contented feeling that has resulted in a loss of cravings for snacks and coffee. As I feel more hydrated, I feel more energized and have had deeper sleep patterns. My metabolism has increased and I feel lighter and happier.

It’s a great way to get back to enjoying our natural resources and it’s free!
https://livingnatureslove.blog/tag/bene ... ged-water/

[AstuteShift]

SOL should charge for that

Awaken your mind with this refreshing beverage

[dmak]

Try FSM- frequency specific microcurrent.Has been shown to speed healing of fractures and other maladies. You will have to look for someone in your area that does this. It is different than TENS, that alot of PT and neuro uses.I believe there is a website that lists practitioners. When I had several severe hand and wrist fractures, I used local magnet therapy. Potential method of action is increased blood flow to area based on paramagnetic properties of heme. Ortho said healing speed increased over what he typically sees, (he didnt know I was using magnets). Not that it matters, but am a physican, almost 40 y experience.
thanks