West's duplicitous double standards: Russia War

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harryg wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 8:45 pm
Budge wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:50 pm
SOL wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 4:01 pm https://youtu.be/KZHHQlcNW04

The general is becoming more Vocal. Does he have a point? He has experience and knows his history relatively well.
Excellent.

Some thoughts:

He talks of Europeans letting go of old animosities. Not going to happen. Animosities from years, decades and centuries survive and fester. How did the US and west get into the mess that we have? Several reasons:
Arrogance of the Anglo-Saxon imperialists.
The embracing of the unreconstructed Nazis and their offspring after WWII.
The embrace of the international Marxists in the form of Jewish bankers since .. forever.

He's right to ignore Merkel, she's been a force for evil. Destroyed the southern EU nations especially Greece and then to prove she really had a heart unilaterally agreeing to mass immigration. Now it turns out she ran interference for Ukraine during the Minsk Agreement. It was never about peace but giving Ukraine time to become an armed camp.

Yes, the US and probably other western nations are run by the political donors. My view of the Big Lie: Of course, elections are free and fair. (WTF!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA4v1H-tY_M
Right on. The British method to get Johnny Foreigner to understand is to speak slower and shout. What'ya mean learn their language? Get outa here!

Here's an article by Dr Pattberg, on his travails a student in China Studies. In reality he points out that any of the current crop of experts on China are really anti-China experts. All part of the imperial hangover that demeans and denigrates other races. Although this applies to China it could just as easily refer to any non-Anglo Saxon/Western country.

"There comes a time during or shortly after the academic training of every “Student of China” when he frequently runs into one of the many agents of Western anti-China state security.

They are adverse hostile forces, they run a complete background-check on you, and then they‘ll make you a simple offer: You either produce anti-Chinese content for the West, or they‘ll mark you as anti-democratic and enemy of freedom, a traitor. In that case, you’ll never find work in the West again.....

I do not expect you to believe at first what I am about to tell you. I would not have believed it myself, back then I mean, before I joined some of the many “Studies” invented by the Western Empire of LIES.

“China Studies” is not about China. It could be, but it is not. It is warfare against China. To keep China down. To sabotage her. To control her people and her history.

In this war, it is the West or you perish. Joining the enemy, China, is a capital crime. Have you ever wondered why there are no pro-China talking heads in the books, in the papers or on telly? It is because pro-China people in “China Studies” were the enemy. They didn’t make it through graduation, they weren’t hired, etc.."

https://thesaker.is/the-coming-purge-of ... ina-hands/
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Was Viktor Bout really a Russia spy? Larry Johnson (ex CIA) makes a good case:

https://sonar21.com/there-is-more-to-th ... s-the-eye/
I believe Viktor Bout was a Russian intelligence officer operating under cover as an arms dealer. In this capacity he could identify key players in revolutionary and criminal movements around the world. It is the United States that has created the Merchant of Death tale.

Let us start with the fact that Bout previously sold weapons to the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan. That kind of sale would have been monitored and known to Russian intelligence. Important to recall that the Northern Alliance played a key role in helping the United States oust the Taliban in the wake of the 9-11 attacks. Although some reports claim Bout also sold to the Taliban, I’ve seen no credible evidence supporting that. However, I cannot discount him doing so with the support of Russia’s Government as a means of identifying and developing potential intelligence sources with the Taliban.

Vladimir Putin was the first world leader to call George W Bush after the 9-11 attacks to offer assistance. We took him up on that and the Russians, as a result of their ties to the Northern Alliance, facilitated the deployment of the CIA JAWBREAKER team. First team in was led by Gary Schroen, who was followed by Gary Berntsen. Gary Berntsen’s book, JAWKBREAKER, recounts that adventure.

Bout’s work as a Russian intel operative working under the cover of arms trafficking gave him incredible access to sources and activities not normally available to a Russian intelligence officer working under diplomatic or military cover. It is a smart way for the Russians to collect intel and recruit human sources on a variety of active insurgent groups and criminal organizations. If you think the United States has not ried something like this, think again.

I know from previous conversations with friends involved in CIA logistics activities that the United States has used people like Bout to buy weapons for our own international adventures. Worth recalling that the CIA was gathering up weapons and arming Islamic radicals in Syria in a bid to overthrow Bashir Assad (remember Benghazi?).

Bout’s arrest in March 2008 needs to be considered in the broader context of U.S./Russian relations. It is trued that Bout was arrested in Thailand as part of a DEA sting. But the story has some significant holes. The official version is that a DEA Confidential Informant approached Bout about selling arms, including SAMs, to the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC). The subsequent US indictment claimed that Bout was selling weapons use against U.S. forces in Colombia.

This is nonsense. That was an artful creation on the part of US prosecutors. The FARC’s military capability in 2008 was in severe decline. If the FARC had plans to use IGLAs, they would have been used against Colombian air assets attacking FARC camps in the jungles of Colombia.
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SOL wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:25 am https://t.me/Slavyangrad/28536
So, Molotov Cocktails on steroids. The destruction of that country is unbelievable. Who's going to want it after this is all done or is that the point.
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chippermon wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 2:12 pm The destruction of that country is unbelievable. Who's going to want it after this is all done or is that the point.
Apparently Blackrock is already in talks with Zelensky about "rebuilding" the country.

Lots of money ...
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Yodean wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 2:02 pm https://twitter.com/NarcissusNinja/stat ... 1623374851

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Follow the money ...
Imagine if this was a normal winter that is typically colder. $$$$. Storage in Europe is actually at capacity right now.

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SOL wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:25 am https://t.me/Slavyangrad/28536
Must be a really old video. We ALL know the Russians ran out of these munitions months ago. We've been told that every month since..I forget but it must be true. Unless, hmm, they managed to find some washing machines that still had semis. That has to be it. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Seriously, pity the poor bastards under that. There are reports that some Ukrainian forces don't bother to add up the dead and wounded. Too many to know.
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Yodean wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 2:28 pm
chippermon wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 2:12 pm The destruction of that country is unbelievable. Who's going to want it after this is all done or is that the point.
Apparently Blackrock is already in talks with Zelensky about "rebuilding" the country.

Lots of money ...
Ha, ha, ha: One for you, three for me, 10% for the big man and who else? Let me fink, let fink.
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Budge wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 2:36 pm
Yodean wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 2:28 pm
chippermon wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 2:12 pm The destruction of that country is unbelievable. Who's going to want it after this is all done or is that the point.
Apparently Blackrock is already in talks with Zelensky about "rebuilding" the country.

Lots of money ...
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Ukraine: The War That Went Wrong
NATO support for the war in Ukraine, designed to degrade the Russian military and drive Vladimir Putin from power, is not going according to plan. The new sophisticated military hardware won't help.
https://scheerpost.com/2023/01/29/chris ... ent-wrong/
Perhaps a bit long but to the point, and I think spot on. Includes analogy to fall of the Roman empire.
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scott wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:02 pm Ukraine: The War That Went Wrong
NATO support for the war in Ukraine, designed to degrade the Russian military and drive Vladimir Putin from power, is not going according to plan. The new sophisticated military hardware won't help.
https://scheerpost.com/2023/01/29/chris ... ent-wrong/
Perhaps a bit long but to the point, and I think spot on. Includes analogy to fall of the Roman empire.
It's generally easier to play defense (Russia) vs. playing offense (NATO). Good article, but also good to consider the other angle of perception.

Also, the fall of the Roman Empire, as both stefk and I both previously posted, took over 1000 years ... this comparison of USA global hegemony to the fall of the Roman Empire is a bit too superficial and mainstream at this juncture, which is why I tend to increasingly question its validity.

There are some very bright peeps (including Doug Casey) who think of Russia as a "gas station with a gun shop attached, in the middle of a field of wheat."

Putin's going to be vulnerable this year - politically, healthwise, etc. - Russia may yet win the current war, but slowly break up internally into different factions/areas. Not my base case atm, but as a potential scenario, the odds of this happening grows persistently.
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In related news CNN asked Evgenii Prigozhin (Wagner's leader) the next question: Good afternoon, Can you please explain why recruitment in the Russian prison system has ended for Wagner? What is the reason behind this?

Prigozhin's response: After the release of Wagner PMC advertisement aimed at American audience we received more than 10 million applications from US citizens wishing to join the Wagner PMC to fight against NATO. At the moment, we are considering about one million American citizens for employment. Therefore, we temporarily suspended the recruitment of volunteers from Russian prisons, however, if there is a corresponding request from the US State Department, we will recruit from American ones."

He did actually respond like that. Of course, this part was ignored by CNN, LOL. But on a more serious note on this issue: Vladimir Rogov today informed (in Russian) that several thousand of citizens of other countries, such as UK, US, Canadians, French, Germans, Portuguese, in all from 47 countries, want to join Russian Armed Forces to fight. He stated that after resolving logistics issues and background checks by FSB they may join. He also underscored that for many of those people it is the matter of not only fighting globalism but defeating it for their own countries to survive and reform. How strange, in a good way, to see today the rebirth of Internationalist Brigades fighting for a good cause. This is your primer.
https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/

I wonder if that's true or a joke? Could not find anything else along the same lines
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Cinnamon wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 5:19 pm I wonder if that's true or a joke? Could not find anything else along the same lines
There's a lot of misinformation from both sides. The Western mainstream media is far worse, but let's face it, during times of war, both parties tend to lie - a lot - to the masses.

https://swprs.org/the-ukraine-war-in-2023/

The above link has a single article that covers the entire conflict, with decent references, and touches on the geopolitical and financial implications, to date.

I don't agree with everything in it, but as a _single_ article covering the entire conflict, it's probably the best I've read, thus far. Well worth reading it a few times, and mulling over some of the data. Also gets updated regularly, as more information comes in.

Takes a fairly balanced view.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0KTRiD0P9g

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establishment, the Americans and the world would listen to him and pay close attention to his warnings.
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