West's duplicitous double standards: Russia War

[Yodean]

The video has English subtitles. Now lets see how fast he acts. So far they are crawling.

Public leaders tend to act strong when weak, and act calm/meek when in reality holding a strong position - like poker players, when playing a hand.

Putin's been talking a lot tougher lately ...

On another note, keep an eye on China - National Party Congress on October 16th. More political theatre, but ...

[George1010]

I watch such videos for entertainment purposes as there is nothing we can do to change the outcome. Its like a movie to some degree, the outcome is already determined.

Nevertheless Richard Black provides some interesting data


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALb2FPX ... rInstitute

[SOL]

https://youtu.be/EGZyj-_T6hQ

[chippermon]

https://youtu.be/EGZyj-_T6hQ

These are two people I admire greatly. Second only to Howard Zinn. It's their ability to think freely and communicate their thoughts in ways that others can understand that impresses me. I don't always agree with every conclusion (this is rare) but they all earnestly work hard to find the facts, present them and back them up.

We are witnessing a travesty of epic proportions right before our eyes and, to be honest, there is really nothing we can do but prepare ourselves to deal with whatever happens on a personal level.

By the way, Democracy Now is a non profit that does not accept money from advertising, underwriting or government agencies. FYI

[Budge]

@Yodean, I kind of agree.

Putin's speech was quite incendiary

The video has English subtitles. Now lets see how fast he acts. So far they are crawling.

I read a transcript of Vlad's speech and would not describe it as incendiary, but I fear we are in an area akin to Stalin's about it doesn't matter how people vote it's who counts the votes. Therefore, doesn't matter what he says it's how it's translated and who's version you read/believe.

Re: the crawling pace, I read somewhere that at heart Vlad is a bureaucrat and for the process of getting the four oblasts into Russia he was determined to do it legally from the Russian standpoint. Apply, referenda, results, put to the Duma to review and vote, official ceremony. Now they're part of Russia, attacks on them are acts of war.

I believe Vlad was patiently hoping the west would self-destruct over the winter while demonstrating to the world it's perfidy. Desperation on the part of the west is moving things along at a faster pace. The acts of sabotage and the glee shown by assorted western morons is building the anger in Russia and may precipitate earlier action. We'll see.

[chippermon]

@Yodean, I kind of agree.

Putin's speech was quite incendiary

The video has English subtitles. Now lets see how fast he acts. So far they are crawling.

I read a transcript of Vlad's speech and would not describe it as incendiary, but I fear we are in an area akin to Stalin's about it doesn't matter how people vote it's who counts the votes. Therefore, doesn't matter what he says it's how it's translated and who's version you read/believe.

Re: the crawling pace, I read somewhere that at heart Vlad is a bureaucrat and for the process of getting the four oblasts into Russia he was determined to do it legally from the Russian standpoint. Apply, referenda, results, put to the Duma to review and vote, official ceremony. Now they're part of Russia, attacks on them are acts of war.

I believe Vlad was patiently hoping the west would self-destruct over the winter while demonstrating to the world it's perfidy. Desperation on the part of the west is moving things along at a faster pace. The acts of sabotage and the glee shown by assorted western morons is building the anger in Russia and may precipitate earlier action. We'll see.

I'm not so sure it's incendiary or meant that way. I'm leaning more towards Yodean's interpretation of a leader on shaky grounds. Trying to puff his chest. Is that because of recent failures in the war? Is it because of the ease in which the only land connection between Russia and Crimea was so easily sabotaged? Not to mention Nordstream. Putin spends a lot of time laying the groundwork for the justifications of his actions, to date, in this speech and possibly future actions. I agree with many of the things he says. History ( I mean real historical facts ) has shown pretty much all of those things pertaining to colonialism that he mentions to be true. Also, it is clearly aimed at the Russian population too.

I don't see any capitulation in the speech but perhaps a call to other world leaders, that might by more sympathetic to Russia, to look at the facts and perhaps open up a path to some kind of two way dialogue. Winter is a comin' and western Europe is not prepared. Of course this was also about the occupation of the new territory and it's wish to join Russia but this is all part of the overall plan for negotiations. Of course this would mean a crack in the NATO alliance but I would hate to be the guy to tell French citizens to wash only once a week and put on another sweater.

Maybe the USA, I mean NATO (pffft. just kidding) saw this possibility about to occur and that's why they blew up Nordstream 1 and 2. Tr to stop the plan in it's tracks. At least delay it.

[Cinnamon]

I read several articles and I saw a video where General Macgregor agrees with what these articles state, which is that Russia only pulls back to save its troops, as all the territory they give up is open territory so it would be easy to take back as Ukraine has no air-force to provide air cover. He also states that they are paying heavily (manpower and equipment) for territory that provides no military advantage. When Russia retreats it does so with all its equipment and minimal losses. It appears that they are waiting for winter. Based on Macgregor, they are playing the long waiting game and winning and come winter the Russians will be in a position to deliver a very heavy punch.

FYI it seems like the Crimea bridge was not taken down as it was hyped in the media. One lane is open and the second one is being fixed. Apparently the trains are working too.

What a mess, the US keeps pushing Ukraine to fight. All of this could have been settled back last year or even earlier this year by enforcing the Minsk Agreement. The stock market correction would have been normal instead of this grinding down type of action.

[deepthinker]

@Yodean, I kind of agree.

Putin's speech was quite incendiary

The video has English subtitles. Now lets see how fast he acts. So far they are crawling.

I read a transcript of Vlad's speech and would not describe it as incendiary, but I fear we are in an area akin to Stalin's about it doesn't matter how people vote it's who counts the votes. Therefore, doesn't matter what he says it's how it's translated and who's version you read/believe.

Re: the crawling pace, I read somewhere that at heart Vlad is a bureaucrat and for the process of getting the four oblasts into Russia he was determined to do it legally from the Russian standpoint. Apply, referenda, results, put to the Duma to review and vote, official ceremony. Now they're part of Russia, attacks on them are acts of war.

I believe Vlad was patiently hoping the west would self-destruct over the winter while demonstrating to the world it's perfidy. Desperation on the part of the west is moving things along at a faster pace. The acts of sabotage and the glee shown by assorted western morons is building the anger in Russia and may precipitate earlier action. We'll see.

I'm not so sure it's incendiary or meant that way. I'm leaning more towards Yodean's interpretation of a leader on shaky grounds. Trying to puff his chest. Is that because of recent failures in the war? Is it because of the ease in which the only land connection between Russia and Crimea was so easily sabotaged? Not to mention Nordstream. Putin spends a lot of time laying the groundwork for the justifications of his actions, to date, in this speech and possibly future actions. I agree with many of the things he says. History ( I mean real historical facts ) has shown pretty much all of those things pertaining to colonialism that he mentions to be true. Also, it is clearly aimed at the Russian population too.

I don't see any capitulation in the speech but perhaps a call to other world leaders, that might by more sympathetic to Russia, to look at the facts and perhaps open up a path to some kind of two way dialogue. Winter is a comin' and western Europe is not prepared. Of course this was also about the occupation of the new territory and it's wish to join Russia but this is all part of the overall plan for negotiations. Of course this would mean a crack in the NATO alliance but I would hate to be the guy to tell French citizens to wash only once a week and put on another sweater.

Maybe the USA, I mean NATO (pffft. just kidding) saw this possibility about to occur and that's why they blew up Nordstream 1 and 2. Tr to stop the plan in it's tracks. At least delay it.

Let's be blunt and Sol alluded to this many times. As the money supplies rises, things will worsen. And as you stated, its all about the money. I don't think anything is going to get better. Until life gets totally unbearable and until death is viewed as a better option, nothing is going to change.

[LoriPrecisely]

Let's be blunt and Sol alluded to this many times. As the money supplies rises, things will worsen. And as you stated, its all about the money. I don't think anything is going to get better. Until life gets totally unbearable and until death is viewed as a better option, nothing is going to change.

Much too pessimistic for me!!!

[Yodean]

[Budge]

And so, the next stage - it begins:

On October 10, the explosions thundered in almost all Ukrainian regions. First attacks were confirmed by authorities in Kiev, and later in other regions. All major cities of Ukraine were hit by the strikes. The escalation followed the explosion on the Crimean Bridge. The day before, Russian President Vladimir Putin confirmed that the attack on the bridge which claimed lives of three Russian citizens was “a terrorist attack aimed at destroying the critical civilian infrastructure of the Russian Federation and its authors, performers, customers are the special services of Ukraine.”

The Russian military launched strikes using X-101 and Kalibr cruise missiles, as well as Geranium-2 suicude drones. Victims were reported.

So far, explosions were reported in Kiev, Rovno, Lvov, Ternopol, Ivano-Frankovsk, Khmelnitsky, Zhitomir, Kremenchug, Kropivnitsky, Krivoy-Rog, Odessa, Zaporozhie, Dnieper, Poltava, Kharkov and other smaller towns of Ukraine.

According to the Ukrainian side, the numbers of the strikes are the following:

60 in Kiev region;
20 in Kharkov region;
47 in Nikolaev region;
15 in Lvov region;
27 in Vinnytsia region;
15 in Odessa region.

https://southfront.org/russia-starts-to ... n-ukraine/

[LoriPrecisely]

And so, the next stage - it begins:

On October 10, the explosions thundered in almost all Ukrainian regions. First attacks were confirmed by authorities in Kiev, and later in other regions. All major cities of Ukraine were hit by the strikes. The escalation followed the explosion on the Crimean Bridge. The day before, Russian President Vladimir Putin confirmed that the attack on the bridge which claimed lives of three Russian citizens was “a terrorist attack aimed at destroying the critical civilian infrastructure of the Russian Federation and its authors, performers, customers are the special services of Ukraine.”

The Russian military launched strikes using X-101 and Kalibr cruise missiles, as well as Geranium-2 suicude drones. Victims were reported.

So far, explosions were reported in Kiev, Rovno, Lvov, Ternopol, Ivano-Frankovsk, Khmelnitsky, Zhitomir, Kremenchug, Kropivnitsky, Krivoy-Rog, Odessa, Zaporozhie, Dnieper, Poltava, Kharkov and other smaller towns of Ukraine.

According to the Ukrainian side, the numbers of the strikes are the following:

60 in Kiev region;
20 in Kharkov region;
47 in Nikolaev region;
15 in Lvov region;
27 in Vinnytsia region;
15 in Odessa region.

https://southfront.org/russia-starts-to ... n-ukraine/

It seems Russia has to be more aggressive because every time they step back or quiet down, we hear of Ukraine getting aggressive. Will this war ever end?

[Yodean]

It seems Russia has to be more aggressive because every time they step back or quiet down, we hear of Ukraine getting aggressive. Will this war ever end?

Gloves are off - Putin's not playing around anymore, like he was in late February.

Russian Federation will want to consolidate its gains and set up secure defensive formations before winter sets in, particularly wrt the four annexed regions.

Likely uneasy stalemate with intermittent escalation during winter months.

Stock indices holding up relatively well, all things considered.

[SOL]

It is interesting to note that Putin has put General Sergei Surovikin in charge of everything. Before there were several commanders in place. Now, this dude is in charge of the entire operation. He was also known as the Butcher of Syria for his ruthlessness in dealing with the rebels in Syria. His nickname is General Armageddon.

“Now, I am 100% satisfied with the operation,” Kadyrov wrote on his Telegram channel on Monday in regards to the large number of missiles fired into Ukraine

Let's what happens next, but I suspect things will suddenly heat up and judging by the number of missiles fired into Ukraine, it looks like Russia is transitioning into the next phase. It's still a bloody shame, so many innocent people have to die.

[Do-or-Die]

Look at what just surfaced

https://youtu.be/JeWHviwLMy8