What I've healed from

[langdj]

Funny to see these posts. I have been running my own hydration experiments this week! I am ALWAYS thirsty, this has been my nature my whole life and starting to think my water consumption is hurting, not helping me. Constantly drinking water and peeing can lead to mineral loss, although you don't see that in too many places


Here is a link that has a contrarian view to the 8 glasses of water thing. Apparently your body does need eight glasses of water but............... about a third of that is recycled by your metabolism and another 1/3 ingest in food (food is 50% to 70% water) meaning you really only need to drink 2 or 3 glasses to have your body get 64oz a day.


https://www.gutsense.org/fiber-menace/w ... -body.html

[langdj]

Funny to see these posts. I have been running my own hydration experiments this week! I am ALWAYS thirsty, this has been my nature my whole life and starting to think my water consumption is hurting, not helping me. Constantly drinking water and peeing can lead to mineral loss, although you don't see that in too many places


Here is a link that has a contrarian view to the to drink 8 glasses of water. Apparently your body does need eight glasses of water but............... about a third of that is recycled by your metabolism and another 1/3 ingest in food (food is 50% to 70% water) meaning you really only need to drink 2 or 3 glasses to have your body get 64oz a day.


https://www.gutsense.org/fiber-menace/w ... -body.html

[bpcw]

Here is a link that has a contrarian view to the 8 glasses of water thing. Apparently your body does need eight glasses of water but............... about a third of that is recycled by your metabolism and another 1/3 ingest in food (food is 50% to 70% water) meaning you really only need to drink 2 or 3 glasses to have your body get 64oz a day.

Heard this some while back, that it never meant pure water but would be interesting to see what others experience has been, seems experimenting oneself is the only way to know for sure and of course it's horses for courses!

[SOL]

I think every system is differrent. Some might need more water, some might need less. I follow a simple rule, When I am thirsty I drink. If I am not thirsty I won't. When I drink two cups of coffee I follow it with one or two small glasses of water with a slice of lemon. I also consume more salt than most people but it's only put in my food as opposed to eating Junk food with a lot of salt. Funny after doubling my salt intake, I felt a lot better and my blood pressure did not increase at all

[Triplethought]

https://podcasts.ufhealth.org/studies-s ... ehydrated/

You ask for objective data. It seems (maybe I am wrong) that you have a bias when it comes to topics you automatically shun or dislike. However, you seem to place a lot of trust on Dr's (some are really good, but most are just drug pushers) and today's science, a lot of which is pseudoscience as the FDA and CDC will push any narrative that helps the drug companies make money.

I have a question. You took the Pfizer shot. Did you objectively look at all the data? if you did, you would see that the EUAs granted for these vaccines cut many corners. Additionally, there was no real double-blind test as Pfizer decided to give the control group the shots (someone mentioned that in this forum). Examined from a logical and objective standpoint of view it does not make sense to take these vaccines.

And I just scratched the service on the many other reasons one should wait including statements from the Inventor of the MRNA tech.

OK we're all walking around dehydrated. And getting the Covid vaccine was silly. Especially since i still caught Covid afterwards.
Just for grins I'm going to drink tea instead of water for the next 3 days including brushing my teeth with it. Since we can't live without water for more than 3 days I should be dead by the end of the experiment because "tea isn't hydrating."

[bpcw]

OK we're all walking around dehydrated. And getting the Covid vaccine was silly. Especially since i still caught Covid afterwards.
Just for grins I'm going to drink tea instead of water for the next 3 days including brushing my teeth with it. Since we can't live without water for more than 3 days I should be dead by the end of the experiment because "tea isn't hydrating."

Lol, let us know if you do happen to die Triplethought!

I'm not sure people have understood it that you cannot get hydration from liquid such as tea but if you drink 8 glasses of strong coffee you may find yourself dehydrated as opposed to 8 glasses of water, if you drink 20 glasses of strong coffee you are probably fine.

I have not really thought about drinking pure water much in the past as I drink lots of tea a day and some coffee and have relied on how I feel and the colour of my pee much more. I remember when drinking lots of beers on a night out when younger that I would be so thirsty in the morning, showing that it's not just the volume of water but also anything additional, obviously alcohol is a major dehydrator after the body has taken what it can in water.

However, I like to be open minded, especially on diet as we've been so indoctrinated on taking a pill as a solution for everything!

[scott]

I was told by a Navy guy, that he was told, if you drink too much (wasn't told how much) water they use for the turbines (as pure as they can make water) it will kill you. Takes too many minerals, and I imagine other goodies, from your body.

[Triplethought]

I was told by a Navy guy, that he was told, if you drink too much (wasn't told how much) water they use for the turbines (as pure as they can make water) it will kill you. Takes too many minerals, and I imagine other goodies, from your body.

Weird the things people believe. Drinking too much regular water can kill you too. It's a safe bet the same number of gallons of distilled or tap will do the trick. I find the proposition that distilled water takes minerals from your body comical and absurd. But a quick google shows plenty of people believe it.

[hooligan]

I will always give the advice that worked for me. I sometimes know the deeper mechanisms of the suggestion, other times my understanding will only be cursory, and I simply trusted the advice and it worked.

Water is a complicated topic. Very poor consensus in most areas despite it being such a crucial basic need.

I always work to combine science with intuition. Measurement is a wonderful tool but can lead one to myopia. Known unknowns, unknown unknowns, are important to keep in mind. Always respect the big picture. Before humans developed strong reasoning, our intuition kept us alive. However now that our surroundings are less natural, our intuition can be programmed, desensitized, or over-sensitized.

Interesting fact:

Water is an electric insulator when distilled, it doesn't conduct electricity on its own.

https://www.usgs.gov/special-topic/wate ... er_objects

[Yodean]

I will always give the advice that worked for me. I sometimes know the deeper mechanisms of the suggestion, other times my understanding will only be cursory, and I simply trusted the advice and it worked.

I always work to combine science with intuition. Measurement is a wonderful tool but can lead one to myopia. Known unknowns, unknown unknowns, are important to keep in mind.

Pretty much sums up my approach, not only in matters of physical health, but towards investing as well.

@hooligan: wanted to pick your brain regarding H2O; the drinking water in Canada isn't great, and I am mildly concerned regarding the fluoride content; we've been using one of those Santevia filters which claim to get rid of all the fluoride (as well as other contaminants, etc.), and we also drink distilled water when we can, as well as carbonated Pellegrino natural mineral water (the last for pleasure, mixing, etc.). It would be good to know if this Santevia filter is doing what it claims:

https://www.amazon.ca/Santevia-Gravity- ... 8d18bf51be

[hooligan]

Since we can't live without water for more than 3 days I should be dead by the end of the experiment because "tea isn't hydrating."

the idea is more that tea is less hydrating.

you won't make progress hydrating your body to better levels if you skip water for tea. if you drink exclusively tea over water for a few months, i'm sure you'll feel it. go ahead and try if you like. you will get sick of the tea without a doubt, and probably suffer some debilitation of your capacities. skip tea for water however, and you'll be fine, probably healthier.

tea can be great as an herb delivery system. the water makes the herb more available to disperse around your organs. but most people drink crap teas anyway. actual tea leaves are caffeinated, and for me out of the question health-wise. caffeine triggers adrenaline which takes you entirely out of a healing mode for hours. great for battle or work however, if you've got the juice to spend !

[hooligan]

@hooligan: wanted to pick your brain regarding H2O; the drinking water in Canada isn't great, and I am mildly concerned regarding the fluoride content; we've been using one of those Santevia filters which claim to get rid of all the fluoride (as well as other contaminants, etc.), and we also drink distilled water when we can, as well as carbonated Pellegrino natural mineral water (the last for pleasure, mixing, etc.). It would be good to know if this Santevia filter is doing what it claims:

We just get spring water delivered. It's cheap and we dispense it from a ceramic little tower thing. I didn't want to deal with the hassle of researching and maintaining filters.

That filter looks pretty good though honestly.

I think the body can do a pretty good job of filtering out chlorine, disinfectant byproducts, and fluoride from tap water. I just don't like to take the risk with ground runoff and poor american standards for toxin control.

To me more important is putting some lemon juice in it. It just feels so much more hydrating that way. Also, for some reason, cold water feels way more hydrating too. At one point I had some evidence on hand as to why that may actually make sense.

I'm definitely curious about springs in general. Some anecdotal stuff I've heard about wells in ireland, switzerland....

Minerals, ions, underground electric currents, kinetic energy of moving water all may play a role in the subjective differences. Behavior of animals regarding water is also interesting.

[Triplethought]

I think every system is differrent. Some might need more water, some might need less. I follow a simple rule, When I am thirsty I drink. If I am not thirsty I won't. When I drink two cups of coffee I follow it with one or two small glasses of water with a slice of lemon. I also consume more salt than most people but it's only put in my food as opposed to eating Junk food with a lot of salt. Funny after doubling my salt intake, I felt a lot better and my blood pressure did not increase at all

My doctor mentioned casually one time that low salt diets aren't very effective at controlling blood pressure. But i think that's just because most people cheat sooner or later. Same reason most diets for losing weight "work" but scientifically don't lead to long term weight loss. Most people (including me) just can't make a lifestyle change long term. How do you know you consume more salt than most people? Do you track it or add a lot to your food? I've noticed on the cooking shows they never spare the salt in good recipes.

[Triplethought]

I'm definitely curious about springs in general. Some anecdotal stuff I've heard about wells in ireland, switzerland....

Minerals, ions, underground electric currents, kinetic energy of moving water all may play a role in the subjective differences. Behavior of animals regarding water is also interesting.

This is getting dangerously close to a conversation about Homeopathic remedies. In short, the theory is if you want to sleep you take a drop of something like caffeine and dilute it millions of times. The more dilute you make it, the more effective the sleep medicine is. This is the principal of homeopathy. Believers say the reason it works is that the water has a "memory" of the original compound. From a chemical and scientific standpoint the original element (caffeine in this example) is completely undetectable and so it could have no impact. The fact there is no scientific way to determine what's in a homeopathic dilution should say everything. Yet hundreds of thousands of people believe in and take homeopathic treatments without understanding that it works on these extreme dilutions.

One time at a skeptics convention I drank an entire bottle of homeopathic sleep medicine while on stage. It didn't make me sleepy (*or make me sick) because it was completely bogus but the look on the audiences faces were priceless. People kept waiting for me to drop dead.

[Triplethought]

@hooligan: wanted to pick your brain regarding H2O; the drinking water in Canada isn't great, and I am mildly concerned regarding the fluoride content; we've been using one of those Santevia filters which claim to get rid of all the fluoride (as well as other contaminants, etc.), and we also drink distilled water when we can, as well as carbonated Pellegrino natural mineral water (the last for pleasure, mixing, etc.). It would be good to know if this Santevia filter is doing what it claims:

FWIW about 2 weeks after I caught Covid and was getting better I thought perhaps I had Giardia in my well water because I was drinking a lot of water and had extreme diarrhea. I captured a quart jar of the water in a glass container (the lab didn't want plastic and didn't want me to leave it in a plastic container). they charged $400 to do a complete analysis. The funny part was the doctor then ordered a lab test of my stool (not a pleasant task but they give you the necessary materials), which was covered by my medical insurance with a $25 copay.

but now I know whats in my well water. Comes off the Sierra Nevada mountain aquifer right below Tahoe so it's pretty good stuff.