West's duplicitous double standards: Russia War
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https://youtu.be/008c-KIuJ1o
Yodean you have wide ranging views, many of them interesting and or different. Can't say I agree 100% but I would say close to 80% which is rare as I rarely can agree with anyone on more than 55% of the stuff. So what's your take on this video
Strange things happening in Lyman. I wonder why Russia did not send more troops there
Yodean you have wide ranging views, many of them interesting and or different. Can't say I agree 100% but I would say close to 80% which is rare as I rarely can agree with anyone on more than 55% of the stuff. So what's your take on this video
Strange things happening in Lyman. I wonder why Russia did not send more troops there
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It's a pretty decent interview - Ritter makes many good points in this particular clip but still continues his tendency, at times, to be a bit melodramatic when pushing some of his more speculative points across.
But hey, as you know, I often do the same

I wrote in a post a long time ago at the beginning of the Russian conflict that Putin appearing relatively mild-mannered and calm publicly would be a sign that Russia was "winning." For the most part, he presented this image until fairly recently. Indeed, from my vantage point Russia appeared to be securing most of its objectives, up until now.
I also said in that same post that as soon as Putin showed more strength and aggression publicly, that would mean Russia was having problems in Ukraine. Well, that happened recently.
Leaders like to appear strong when they are not, and calm/mild-mannered when they are. Happens a lot in poker games, too - looking strong when you are bluffing and pretending to look weak when you hold aces.
My speculation is that Putin and his military advisors were given poor military intelligence about how easy it would be to secure the Donbas and Kharkiv, Odessa, etc. He wanted to minimize damage to infrastructure in Ukraine as well as civilian deaths, which he knows would be all over mainstream media.
So the Russian air force wasn't utilized in a significant role thus far, the most experienced Russian troops and most advanced military equipment were not deployed (from my understanding) in the initial Special Operations.
Classic modern military strategy in quickly securing foreign territory (if one didn't care about minimizing damage to enemy infrastructure and casualties) would be to take out enemy power grid, communications network, and water supply immediately (think "shock and awe" type tactics employed by U.S. military in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.) - i.e. bomb the living beejezus out of the enemy in the initial phase of the operations, using air superiority, then blietzkrieg in with ground forces and advanced equipment/SpecialForces.
Stun the enemy quickly at all his weak points simultaneously, slit his throat right away, and move in quickly before the blood has even stopped spurting.
Well, one has to remember that Ukrainians and Russians aren't really that different - so if you think Russians are tough or whatever, then so are Ukrainians - rightly or wrongly, the mainstream narrative was that Ukrainians were defending their homeland.
Soldiers fight the hardest when they are fighting for their homes, families, children, etc.
Plus Ukrainians had NATO/CIA help, advanced military tech, LMT's HIMARs or whatever, superior satellite intelligence, etc.
My base case: uneasy stalemate, with occasional escalation - both sides will have their moments, and lots of propaganda and misinformation. Donbas and adjacent regions become a bit of a buffer zone. Unrest for years to come.
U.S. DeepState/Military Industrial Complex continues to make tons of $$$, NATO gains more relevance/funding, etc.
Somebody posted the following elsewhere - I haven't fact-checked any of it, but also have no reason to doubt its overall veracity:
NATO has increased its presence around Eastern Europe this year and has no plans to de-escalate the situation. There are over 40,000 troops on the ground across Eastern Europe, and more are set to arrive. In fact, NATO will establish four additional “multinational battle groups” in Hungary, Romania, Slovakia, and Bulgaria.
Colonel Vincent Minguet, the commander of the NATO Combat Group in Romania, said the plan is for “the creation of a permanent, stronger battalion, with more heavy weapons, to prevent any aggression or any destabilization in Romania.” Alarmingly, Minguet believes that training will last for four or five years. They are planning for a long-term ongoing battle fought among numerous nations, aka a world war.
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Sometimes I think all these leaders are in some way in on this game. On one level they pretend there is a war for the public and on another level they are busy laughing at us peasants.
America has made many mistakes, but then again so has Russia. Some of the mistakes Russia has made a beyond stupid. What was Putin thinking when he allowed troops to to Kiev with light armor. If it was special operation to get rid of Fascists, etc why in the world would he or his generals expect Ukrainians to greet them with open arms. Whoever supplied that intelligence should be shot. Why are they still trying to get the UN and a host of other agencies that America controls to do anything meaningful. Simple logic tells you its a waste of time. As they drag their feet pretending they are doing something people get killed.
Instead of waging such a rough war, why did they not just knock out all the power grid, and major infrastructure during the summer, so no one would freeze to death. Doing this would have reduced the body count significantly and pushed Ukraine to the negotiating table a lot faster.
Why did Russia not blow up every weapon shipment that was coming through Ukraine or place a total air blockade so nothing could come in. I don't support the war but when you look at it from a logical perspective, it seems that retards are running things both in Russia and the US.
On the USA front, instead of placing sanctions on Russia, they should have asked all the nations to pump as much oil as possible. They could have also removed all obstacles to boosting oil production in the USA and helped Canada boost production. Even force them to do so if necessary. Over supply would lead to a drop in oil prices hurting Russia's ability to conduct this war.
I could go on and on. From what I see its all a grand game and no matter what the outcome is, the end game is to make the masses poorer.
America has made many mistakes, but then again so has Russia. Some of the mistakes Russia has made a beyond stupid. What was Putin thinking when he allowed troops to to Kiev with light armor. If it was special operation to get rid of Fascists, etc why in the world would he or his generals expect Ukrainians to greet them with open arms. Whoever supplied that intelligence should be shot. Why are they still trying to get the UN and a host of other agencies that America controls to do anything meaningful. Simple logic tells you its a waste of time. As they drag their feet pretending they are doing something people get killed.
Instead of waging such a rough war, why did they not just knock out all the power grid, and major infrastructure during the summer, so no one would freeze to death. Doing this would have reduced the body count significantly and pushed Ukraine to the negotiating table a lot faster.
Why did Russia not blow up every weapon shipment that was coming through Ukraine or place a total air blockade so nothing could come in. I don't support the war but when you look at it from a logical perspective, it seems that retards are running things both in Russia and the US.
On the USA front, instead of placing sanctions on Russia, they should have asked all the nations to pump as much oil as possible. They could have also removed all obstacles to boosting oil production in the USA and helped Canada boost production. Even force them to do so if necessary. Over supply would lead to a drop in oil prices hurting Russia's ability to conduct this war.
I could go on and on. From what I see its all a grand game and no matter what the outcome is, the end game is to make the masses poorer.
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Amen.Cinnamon wrote: ↑Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:46 am Sometimes I think all these leaders are in some way in on this game. On one level they pretend there is a war for the public and on another level they are busy laughing at us peasants.
America has made many mistakes, but then again so has Russia. Some of the mistakes Russia has made a beyond stupid.
I could go on and on. From what I see its all a grand game and no matter what the outcome is, the end game is to make the masses poorer.
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I have often thought there are several groups of elites who want to be in control, thus they fight amongst themselves. Even with Trump I thought this. He is an insider. He knows what is going on. His group wants control over the group that is currently in control.Cinnamon wrote: ↑Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:46 am Sometimes I think all these leaders are in some way in on this game. On one level they pretend there is a war for the public and on another level they are busy laughing at us peasants.
America has made many mistakes, but then again so has Russia. Some of the mistakes Russia has made a beyond stupid. What was Putin thinking when he allowed troops to to Kiev with light armor. If it was special operation to get rid of Fascists, etc why in the world would he or his generals expect Ukrainians to greet them with open arms. Whoever supplied that intelligence should be shot. Why are they still trying to get the UN and a host of other agencies that America controls to do anything meaningful. Simple logic tells you its a waste of time. As they drag their feet pretending they are doing something people get killed.
Instead of waging such a rough war, why did they not just knock out all the power grid, and major infrastructure during the summer, so no one would freeze to death. Doing this would have reduced the body count significantly and pushed Ukraine to the negotiating table a lot faster.
Why did Russia not blow up every weapon shipment that was coming through Ukraine or place a total air blockade so nothing could come in. I don't support the war but when you look at it from a logical perspective, it seems that retards are running things both in Russia and the US.
On the USA front, instead of placing sanctions on Russia, they should have asked all the nations to pump as much oil as possible. They could have also removed all obstacles to boosting oil production in the USA and helped Canada boost production. Even force them to do so if necessary. Over supply would lead to a drop in oil prices hurting Russia's ability to conduct this war.
I could go on and on. From what I see its all a grand game and no matter what the outcome is, the end game is to make the masses poorer.
Your oil solution is a good one, but apparently the opposite is in the works.
OPEC, allies move to slash oil production
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business ... di-arabia/
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I should probably leave this alone but I can't help myself today.LoriPrecisely wrote: ↑Thu Oct 06, 2022 3:22 pm
I have often thought there are several groups of elites who want to be in control, thus they fight amongst themselves. Even with Trump I thought this. He is an insider. He knows what is going on. His group wants control over the group that is currently in control.
Your oil solution is a good one, but apparently the opposite is in the works.
OPEC, allies move to slash oil production
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business ... di-arabia/
Concerning Trump, he is their little bitch. Hands down. He hasn't got a clue what's really going on. He just thinks he does.
OPEC slashing oil production is just words and words move the markets. Like the FED does. Right now OPEC isn't even meeting it's allowed quotas. So what's the point?
I'll tell you the point. Dolla Bill Y'all. Just follow the money.
All the things Cinnamon is talking about are good points but it doesn't make them money.
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Hahahaha the comment on Trump was funny.chippermon wrote: ↑Thu Oct 06, 2022 5:46 pmI should probably leave this alone but I can't help myself today.LoriPrecisely wrote: ↑Thu Oct 06, 2022 3:22 pm
I have often thought there are several groups of elites who want to be in control, thus they fight amongst themselves. Even with Trump I thought this. He is an insider. He knows what is going on. His group wants control over the group that is currently in control.
Your oil solution is a good one, but apparently the opposite is in the works.
OPEC, allies move to slash oil production
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business ... di-arabia/
Concerning Trump, he is their little bitch. Hands down. He hasn't got a clue what's really going on. He just thinks he does.
OPEC slashing oil production is just words and words move the markets. Like the FED does. Right now OPEC isn't even meeting it's allowed quotas. So what's the point?
I'll tell you the point. Dolla Bill Y'all. Just follow the money.
All the things Cinnamon is talking about are good points but it doesn't make them money.
Put in very simple terms, it's a currency war, and the idea is to finish to the bottom last. Yes, running neck and neck is the massive greed to make more dollars and at any cost, i might add.
It will be interesting to see how things unfold when the dollar tops. Will Europe be so decimated (I hope not, as there are a lot of good people there) that they won't be able to recoup? For now, things don't look too bright for the powerhouse Germany. A cheap energy solution has to be found. Otherwise, deindustrialization is the only option. Even that does not mean America will benefit, as the workers needed to man those factories are almost non-existent here. It could indirectly push countries like Vietnam, South Korea, and other Asian countries to the forefront of manufacturing; they certainly have more skilled workers in the manufacturing industry than the US.
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Lol, I like it when you leave the politeness behind. And to think I kind of had you pegged as a bit of a MAGA supporter previously ...chippermon wrote: ↑Thu Oct 06, 2022 5:46 pm I should probably leave this alone but I can't help myself today.
Concerning Trump, he is their little bitch. Hands down. He hasn't got a clue what's really going on. He just thinks he does.
I'll tell you the point. Dolla Bill Y'all. Just follow the money.

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Some laughs to go with that blistering statementchippermon wrote: ↑Thu Oct 06, 2022 5:46 pmI should probably leave this alone but I can't help myself today.LoriPrecisely wrote: ↑Thu Oct 06, 2022 3:22 pm
I have often thought there are several groups of elites who want to be in control, thus they fight amongst themselves. Even with Trump I thought this. He is an insider. He knows what is going on. His group wants control over the group that is currently in control.
Your oil solution is a good one, but apparently the opposite is in the works.
OPEC, allies move to slash oil production
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business ... di-arabia/
Concerning Trump, he is their little bitch. Hands down. He hasn't got a clue what's really going on. He just thinks he does.
OPEC slashing oil production is just words and words move the markets. Like the FED does. Right now OPEC isn't even meeting it's allowed quotas. So what's the point?
I'll tell you the point. Dolla Bill Y'all. Just follow the money.
All the things Cinnamon is talking about are good points but it doesn't make them money.
https://youtu.be/LRhKS7gYq9E
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Interesting to note, $100B Micron fab facility (the first of many) and the US will likely be unable to find sufficient analytical individuals to staff this huge employment need in the future. Something has to change very quickly at your local Publik Skool.SOL wrote: ↑Thu Oct 06, 2022 6:03 pmHahahaha the comment on Trump was funny.chippermon wrote: ↑Thu Oct 06, 2022 5:46 pmI should probably leave this alone but I can't help myself today.LoriPrecisely wrote: ↑Thu Oct 06, 2022 3:22 pm
I have often thought there are several groups of elites who want to be in control, thus they fight amongst themselves. Even with Trump I thought this. He is an insider. He knows what is going on. His group wants control over the group that is currently in control.
Your oil solution is a good one, but apparently the opposite is in the works.
OPEC, allies move to slash oil production
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business ... di-arabia/
Concerning Trump, he is their little bitch. Hands down. He hasn't got a clue what's really going on. He just thinks he does.
OPEC slashing oil production is just words and words move the markets. Like the FED does. Right now OPEC isn't even meeting it's allowed quotas. So what's the point?
I'll tell you the point. Dolla Bill Y'all. Just follow the money.
All the things Cinnamon is talking about are good points but it doesn't make them money.
Put in very simple terms, it's a currency war, and the idea is to finish to the bottom last. Yes, running neck and neck is the massive greed to make more dollars and at any cost, i might add.
It will be interesting to see how things unfold when the dollar tops. Will Europe be so decimated (I hope not, as there are a lot of good people there) that they won't be able to recoup? For now, things don't look too bright for the powerhouse Germany. A cheap energy solution has to be found. Otherwise, deindustrialization is the only option. Even that does not mean America will benefit, as the workers needed to man those factories are almost non-existent here. It could indirectly push countries like Vietnam, South Korea, and other Asian countries to the forefront of manufacturing; they certainly have more skilled workers in the manufacturing industry than the US.
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Michigan, too.
This is something she is using in her campaign for re-election.
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This is something she is using in her campaign for re-election.
Gov. Whitmer & SK Siltron Bring Semiconductor Supply Chain to Michigan with New Bay City Facility
$300 million investment secured by Governor Whitmer will ensure future of semiconductors is made in Michigan, strengthen high-tech manufacturing, and reduce shortages and delays of critical products
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More interesting headlines today.....
Biden admin looks to scale down Venezuela sanctions
Discussions of possible sanctions relief on Venezuela come as President Biden faces mounting political pressure to address rising gas prices ahead of the November midterms. It also comes as the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC+) said it would be cutting oil production by 2 million barrels a day, creating another headache for the president.
The Biden administration is reportedly gearing up to wind down sanctions against Venezuela’s authoritarian regime, clearing the way for Chevron to resume its oil operations and reopen U.S. and European markets.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/bi ... d-dirtiest
Why would Biden choose this route rather than to reopen the Keystone Pipeline?
This also brings up the questions of why Trump put the sanctions on Venezuela, and
why did he want to replace Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro with Juan Guaido, when the people of that country clearly did not want Guaido?
Biden admin looks to scale down Venezuela sanctions
Discussions of possible sanctions relief on Venezuela come as President Biden faces mounting political pressure to address rising gas prices ahead of the November midterms. It also comes as the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC+) said it would be cutting oil production by 2 million barrels a day, creating another headache for the president.
The Biden administration is reportedly gearing up to wind down sanctions against Venezuela’s authoritarian regime, clearing the way for Chevron to resume its oil operations and reopen U.S. and European markets.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/bi ... d-dirtiest
Why would Biden choose this route rather than to reopen the Keystone Pipeline?
This also brings up the questions of why Trump put the sanctions on Venezuela, and
why did he want to replace Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro with Juan Guaido, when the people of that country clearly did not want Guaido?
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Anyone familiar with this guy. Young dude but seems to be quite well informed
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Honestly, although those questions are interesting to some, in general I find that spending too much time thinking about politics is not profitable - really, politics is mostly theatre, and a distraction.LoriPrecisely wrote: ↑Thu Oct 06, 2022 11:39 pm This also brings up the questions of why Trump put the sanctions on Venezuela, and
why did he want to replace Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro with Juan Guaido, when the people of that country clearly did not want Guaido?
In my direct experience, financial advisors who get too emotional about politics tend to do poorly in terms of risk-adjusted CAGR.
Like Chippermon said, just follow the friggin' $$$.
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@Yodean, I kind of agree.
Who cares about the why? Nothing has changed over the centuries, the rich rob and rape the poor that's how the story begins and ends. My goals
Goal 1: don't get raped by staying out of the way or work on getting rock hard butt cheeks
Goal 2: Find a way to profit from it or maybe this should be goal 1
Putin's speech was quite incendiary
https://youtu.be/ZP69jld8XAE
The video has English subtitles. Now lets see how fast he acts. So far they are crawling.
Who cares about the why? Nothing has changed over the centuries, the rich rob and rape the poor that's how the story begins and ends. My goals
Goal 1: don't get raped by staying out of the way or work on getting rock hard butt cheeks
Goal 2: Find a way to profit from it or maybe this should be goal 1
Putin's speech was quite incendiary
https://youtu.be/ZP69jld8XAE
The video has English subtitles. Now lets see how fast he acts. So far they are crawling.
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