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[jlhooter]

Been a pretty brutal last couple of weeks for me.

Hang in there - it's darkest before the light. Corny but true. With my "red" positions I just ignore them, wait, and eventually they turn black. Usually, lol.

Also, want to see where ANGI closes today before potentially selling.

COUP, 2nd lot, filled @ 204.00;

Yodean I agree and when trying to find the bottom of a cycle it is impossible so when you get in you should expect to see a short term drop below your entry. At least with my very little experience that is what I think. When I feel pretty good about a play that has recently dropped I look away; ignorance in this case really is bliss!

[Pachoo9]

Yep, thanks. I am sure it will go back up. At least we are getting into some good new positions.

[SOL]

This kind of correction is the worst, I am referring to the silent kind. It appears that the markets are going up but a large number of stocks from almost every sector are getting hit even when they release spectacular earnings. But in the end, such corrections (they don't occur often) tend to lead to large gains. Let's see how this pans out going forward

The almost surreal part is that bullish sentiment is still below its historical average, I think it's almost the 4th week in a row and neutral sentiment is still quite high, suggesting there is a high degree of uncertainty.

[loczkins]

As a newbie, just kind question - does below indicate anything? Graphs may be suggesting stronger dip ahead but love to hear what more experienced ones think.

https://twitter.com/MikaelSarwe/status/ ... 52/photo/1

https://twitter.com/MikaelSarwe/status/ ... 08/photo/1

[Yodean]

... a large number of stocks from almost every sector are getting hit even when they release spectacular earnings. But in the end, such corrections (they don't occur often) tend to lead to large gains.

One "soft," contrarian sentiment indicator I try to incorporate is that markets (applies fairly well to individual stocks, as well), are often topping when the sector in question continues to rise in the face of negative news.

Conversely, a bottoming process may be indicated when the asset in question continues to fall in price in the face of positive news.

I.e. divergence in price action and news sentiment.

A possible example of this is recently, when BTC was dropping quickly to the low-mid 30k ranges, news of El Salvador's planned adoption of BTC as legal tender came out, yet BTC kept on dropping for a bit more, before its current bull run.

[Yodean]

As a newbie, just kind question - does below indicate anything? Graphs may be suggesting stronger dip ahead but love to hear what more experienced ones think.

https://twitter.com/MikaelSarwe/status/ ... 52/photo/1

https://twitter.com/MikaelSarwe/status/ ... 08/photo/1

Lol, no offense, but I generally don't go on Twitter for my financial analyses. The dude may be right or wrong, but to keep my head clear, I try to do my own general analyses before looking at anyone else's, even T.I.'s.

Now, if Sol P. had a Twitter account, I might follow him. Only exception, more or less.

No one I know who is a consistent, successful investor takes any financial advice she finds on Twitter very seriously.

My two cents.

[loczkins]

As a newbie, just kind question - does below indicate anything? Graphs may be suggesting stronger dip ahead but love to hear what more experienced ones think.

https://twitter.com/MikaelSarwe/status/ ... 52/photo/1

https://twitter.com/MikaelSarwe/status/ ... 08/photo/1

Lol, no offense, but I generally don't go on Twitter for my financial analyses. The dude may be right or wrong, but to keep my head clear, I try to do my own general analyses before looking at anyone else's, even T.I.'s.

Now, if Sol P. had a Twitter account, I might follow him. Only exception, more or less.

No one I know who is a consistent, successful investor takes any financial advice she finds on Twitter very seriously.

My two cents.

Thanks a lot for prompt feedback. Very interesting as lots of quite serious institutions (in this case we have data from BofA and Nordea) have TW account and publish stuff there. I am not saying that TW is reliable source of truth especially with their tendency to censorship but still it is a sort of source of info. At least sentiment imho.

I personally cannot run any raw data study as simply don't have know-how hence i support myself with others' research. Probably mistake #1:) Would love to understand what your general analysis include but i assume it's diff topic (dont want to spoil this thread).

[Triplethought]

I personally cannot run any raw data study as simply don't have know-how hence i support myself with others' research. Probably mistake #1:) Would love to understand what your general analysis include but i assume it's diff topic (dont want to spoil this thread).

Thanks for good discussion. But yes It'd be nice if we could keep this thread mainly for Fill data

[Triplethought]

Been a pretty brutal last couple of weeks for me.

Hang in there - it's darkest before the light. Corny but true. With my "red" positions I just ignore them, wait, and eventually they turn black. Usually, lol.

Also, want to see where ANGI closes today before potentially selling.

COUP, 2nd lot, filled @ 204.00;

God I hope you're right. The sea of red in the portfolios these days is pretty overwhelming.

[AstuteShift]

Been a pretty brutal last couple of weeks for me.

Hang in there - it's darkest before the light. Corny but true. With my "red" positions I just ignore them, wait, and eventually they turn black. Usually, lol.

Also, want to see where ANGI closes today before potentially selling.

COUP, 2nd lot, filled @ 204.00;

God I hope you're right. The sea of red in the portfolios these days is pretty overwhelming.

That’s usually a sign of profits right around the corner

The market is just a game, astute vs the emotional fools

[Yodean]

God I hope you're right. The sea of red in the portfolios these days is pretty overwhelming.

@TT: lol, love your new hashtag/signature; wrt to the markets, T.I. generally hasn't failed us over a 6+ month period; hang in there; holding a bit of extra USD is not a terrible idea;

@Lozkins: the thing is - and you can look this up - over 8/9 retail investors lose in the markets over a reasonable period of time, and that's probably being conservative; you have to ask yourself, why is this? So if you use mainstream sources of information and approaches, you're probably going to lose, no matter how smart you are.

Personally, I think it takes at least 3 to 5 years of direct experience investing and trading the markets to become somewhat half-decent and battle-tested, and one needs to have some experience trading through at least one or two real drawdowns like 2008/9 or March '20.

But I'm a bit of an old school curmudgeon when it comes to this stuff - I'm sure there are many on this board who may disagree.

T.I.'s approach is quite unique and if one is really diligent and willing to consider some ideas and perpectives that may at times come across as unpalatable (i.e. "most people are sheep, idiots, etc." lol), one may perhaps "fast-track" the learning process by a few years.

Spending > 100 hours reading the materials on the T.I. website, considering the ideas presented, watching some of the recommended video clips, etc. would also help. Then you may start analyzing assets, markets, etc. a bit on your own, and comparing them against others, like those in the mainstream media. Over time, you'll quickly learn that those in the mainstream financial media are generally wrong, or at best may barely beat flipping a coin.

@YoungAnakin: sorry for destroying this thread; but this is an interesting topic nonetheless.

[Investor87]

Hang in there - it's darkest before the light. Corny but true. With my "red" positions I just ignore them, wait, and eventually they turn black. Usually, lol.

Also, want to see where ANGI closes today before potentially selling.

COUP, 2nd lot, filled @ 204.00;

God I hope you're right. The sea of red in the portfolios these days is pretty overwhelming.

That’s usually a sign of profits right around the corner

The market is just a game, astute vs the emotional fools

ANGI's 9.90 end of day stop almost happened. It closed @ 10.00. I'm still holding.

[bpcw]

I've closed completely or half positions at nice profits in last couple of months, not bothered at this downturn at all.

Also it helps that I could see commodities topping and going through a correction so shorted with geared ETF's last week (oil, gas & sugar just recently), doing pretty well at the moment and mitigating the downturn in stocks. Wouldn't recommend for anyone new though, I have been looking at these markets for quite a few years and have a feel for them, especially don't recommend the geared ETF's, start with non geared first, geared one's are for short term investments and have to be nimble at times.

The great thing about investing in stocks with great potential and no 'trading with margin' is you don't lose anything with the corrections if you are patient, and buying in lots allows for great potential profits when they turn around as 80% do.

And don't panic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR0lOtdvqyg

[Budge]

Been a pretty brutal last couple of weeks for me.

Hang in there - it's darkest before the light. Corny but true. With my "red" positions I just ignore them, wait, and eventually they turn black. Usually, lol.

Also, want to see where ANGI closes today before potentially selling.

COUP, 2nd lot, filled @ 204.00;

God I hope you're right. The sea of red in the portfolios these days is pretty overwhelming.

Astute is .. well ..astute. The market, or rather the manipulators, love to test how much pain you can bear. They run the stops to shake out the "weak hands" to pick up stocks at a lower price.

No market is so low it can't go lower and no market is so high it can't go higher. With all the excrement going on volatility is going to run the markets up and down like a roller coaster but, as Sol says look at the trend. We can have savage pull backs in a bull market but a bull market doesn't die in a Chicken Little moment but in a euphoric blow off top.

[Budge]

I've closed completely or half positions at nice profits in last couple of months, not bothered at this downturn at all.

Also it helps that I could see commodities topping and going through a correction so shorted with geared ETF's last week (oil, gas & sugar just recently), doing pretty well at the moment and mitigating the downturn in stocks. Wouldn't recommend for anyone new though, I have been looking at these markets for quite a few years and have a feel for them, especially don't recommend the geared ETF's, start with non geared first, geared one's are for short term investments and have to be nimble at times.

The great thing about investing in stocks with great potential and no 'trading with margin' is you don't lose anything with the corrections if you are patient, and buying in lots allows for great potential profits when they turn around as 80% do.

And don't panic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR0lOtdvqyg

Dad's Army - classic. Not sure it would be made today. Clive Dunn's frequent references to fighting in the Sudan and those "fuzzy wuzzies" not "liking it up 'em!"