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From the science journal _Nature_:

"A paper that analyzed the results of a massive post-lockdown Covid-19 testing drive that included nearly every eligible resident of Wuhan, China has found no evidence that positive cases without symptoms spread the disease.
The analysis, published in the scientific journal Nature, looked at the results of a screening initiative held between May and June in Wuhan, the city where the first cases of the novel coronavirus were detected in late 2019. The origins of the virus have yet to be determined, with new studies suggesting that the disease could have been in Italy as early as September last year.

Incredibly, no new symptomatic cases were registered, and only 300 asymptomatic cases were detected. Subsequent tests of 1,174 close contacts of the asymptomatic cases found resulted in no new positives.

There is “no evidence that the identified asymptomatic positive cases were infectious,” the paper said, adding that the results of the massive screening program could help health authorities “adjust prevention and control strategies in the post-lockdown period.”

The analysis seems to confirm preliminary findings that were released during the screening program. Professor Lu Zuxun, from Wuhan’s Huazhong University of Science & Technology, said back in June that there was currently no evidence that asymptomatic people were passing the virus to other people, but cautioned at the time against drawing broad conclusions.

The paper’s authors acknowledged that previous studies had found evidence that asymptomatic individuals were infectious and could become symptomatic later, but theorized that Wuhan residents still testing positive for the virus after the city’s strict lockdown had a “low quantity of viral loads” and therefore were unable to pass the illness on to other people."


https://www.rt.com/news/507402-wuhan-as ... rus-study/
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True story, where I live around Nashville we know a nurse at an inner city hospital. He indicated between the two holidays the e-room was receiving hundreds of people daily. Almost all tested positive.

The majority were sent home as they did not display respiratory symptoms (a key feature of SARS-2; SEVERE ACUTE RESPIRATORY SYNDROME). Only the minority of folks with respiratory symptoms were held overnight, for ONE NIGHT, then released.

Wife is recovering from the flu as I write this. She had fever for a day, chills and body aches, headache...NO RESPIRATORY SYMPTOMS. She did not receive or ask to be tested. Just about over for her, a regular thing, no big deal.

The seasonal flu is still a thing people, AND, now that people take off the mask, wait to see how sick they get since their antibodies have been weakened by constantly wearing a mask. That's the real pandemic otw.
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MarkD wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 1:53 pm True story, where I live around Nashville we know a nurse at an inner city hospital. He indicated between the two holidays the e-room was receiving hundreds of people daily. Almost all tested positive.

The majority were sent home as they did not display respiratory symptoms (a key feature of SARS-2; SEVERE ACUTE RESPIRATORY SYNDROME). Only the minority of folks with respiratory symptoms were held overnight, for ONE NIGHT, then released.

Wife is recovering from the flu as I write this. She had fever for a day, chills and body aches, headache...NO RESPIRATORY SYMPTOMS. She did not receive or ask to be tested. Just about over for her, a regular thing, no big deal.

The seasonal flu is still a thing people, AND, now that people take off the mask, wait to see how sick they get since their antibodies have been weakened by constantly wearing a mask. That's the real pandemic otw.
Well said Mark! The hypnosis about this virus is real! Some people who had not fallen for the hype this summer are now hiding indoors, weirdly MORE afraid. The positive test numbers and constant reminders of Covid are having a major psychological affect. I live in Massachusetts, I take my dog for a walk outside in a fairly isolated trail in the woods, when I do see people they fall over themselves getting away from me because I don't have a "Face Diaper" on.

Even skiing is weird. You are obviously asymptomatic if you are skiing but people are Gestapo about the masks at the mountains too! Skiing is not for the weak or fearful but the same people will fly down a cliff of snow want to deprive themselves of oxygen during these dangerous feats. This really is a good / bad lesson is Mass Psychology
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One more thing, a very old and good friend is a pharmacist, as is his wife. She works for Pfizer. They believe the vaccine is safe. I am not an anti-vaxxer but it's clear they are not really as safe and effective as some WANT to believe. Even a few doctors we have heard are avoiding inocculation atm.
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And I will end with this note. My wife did some research months ago re: "asymptomatic". It is being misused by Fauci and the media. Her finding is the term is only applicable to bacterial infections.

Covid-19 is a virus.
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What we are finding from subscribers, associates and people we know that got COVID and recovered quickly, is that those that recovered quickly with almost no symptoms other than flu symptoms had good to high normal values of vit D. Good being above 45, normal being above 30.

My mother recovered from it, she is considered high risk as she had a stroke abuout 15 months ago (minor), her COVID symptons were stronger so she took Intravenous Vit C 1500mg or more per day, But she recovered in less than 2 weeks and again the reason could be because her Vit D levels were above norm. She was also taking Zinc, MB, after she left the hospital, some VIT A, and K.

This could be anectodal evidence but there are several articles indicating that Vit D, plus few other co-factors seem to play a critical role in possibly determining how badly covid hits you. It is known that during winter months that Vit D levles drop drastically unless supplements are taken.


Take this for it's worth as we don't beleive in pushing any narratives but for those that want to explore it further or maybe those with medical backgrounds can chime in.

So consider this random data that could be food for thought.
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MarkD wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:42 pm And I will end with this note. My wife did some research months ago re: "asymptomatic". It is being misused by Fauci and the media. Her finding is the term is only applicable to bacterial infections.

Covid-19 is a virus.
That seems like a rather obtuse statement, just to nitpick at people you don't agree with being 'wrong' at something.
Asymptomatic is a general term, doesn't have to be bacterial only.
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langdj wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:36 pm
MarkD wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 1:53 pm True story, where I live around Nashville we know a nurse at an inner city hospital. He indicated between the two holidays the e-room was receiving hundreds of people daily. Almost all tested positive.

The majority were sent home as they did not display respiratory symptoms (a key feature of SARS-2; SEVERE ACUTE RESPIRATORY SYNDROME). Only the minority of folks with respiratory symptoms were held overnight, for ONE NIGHT, then released.

Wife is recovering from the flu as I write this. She had fever for a day, chills and body aches, headache...NO RESPIRATORY SYMPTOMS. She did not receive or ask to be tested. Just about over for her, a regular thing, no big deal.

The seasonal flu is still a thing people, AND, now that people take off the mask, wait to see how sick they get since their antibodies have been weakened by constantly wearing a mask. That's the real pandemic otw.
Well said Mark! The hypnosis about this virus is real! Some people who had not fallen for the hype this summer are now hiding indoors, weirdly MORE afraid. The positive test numbers and constant reminders of Covid are having a major psychological affect. I live in Massachusetts, I take my dog for a walk outside in a fairly isolated trail in the woods, when I do see people they fall over themselves getting away from me because I don't have a "Face Diaper" on.

Even skiing is weird. You are obviously asymptomatic if you are skiing but people are Gestapo about the masks at the mountains too! Skiing is not for the weak or fearful but the same people will fly down a cliff of snow want to deprive themselves of oxygen during these dangerous feats. This really is a good / bad lesson is Mass Psychology
Just finished reading an article in "UndercoverDC" by Celia Farber from April 7th, 2020. Here's the link:

https://uncoverdc.com/2020/04/07/was-th ... t-a-virus/

It's about Kary Mullis, the rather eccentric biochemist who died August 2019. He invented the Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR) and subsequently won the Nobel prize for chemistry as a result.

PCR was weaponized to become the golden bullet for the scientists intent on linking HIV to Aids despite Mullis's objections. It's a long read but you'll understand how science was hijacked by the "HIV Industrial Complex" and morphed via the "medical Taliban" into the "Corona Terrorism" we now endure.

In discussing an ABC "Nightline" documentary about HIV and PCR he helped produce, Mullis made the following comment: "What ABC needs to do is talk to [Chairman of the National Institutes of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) Dr. Anthony] Fauci and [Dr. Robert] Gallo [one of the discoverers of HIV] and show that they’re assholes, which I could do in ten minutes.” Never came to pass...unfortunately.
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An excerpt:

"Vitamin D:

In a Spanish randomized controlled trial (RCT), high-dose vitamin D (100,000 IU) reduced the risk of requiring intensive care by 96%.

A study in a French nursing home found an 89% decrease in mortality in residents who had received high-dose vitamin D either shortly before or during covid-19 disease.

A retrospective British study of approximately 1000 hospitalized covid patients found an 80% reduction in mortality with high-dose vitamin D.

A large Israeli study found a strong link between vitamin D deficiency and covid-19 severity.
For an overview of all covid-19 vitamin D studies, see below:"


https://c19vitamind.com/

https://swprs.org/on-the-treatment-of-covid-19/
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A bit surprised this little bit of news made the mainstream media:

https://nypost.com/2021/01/15/23-die-in ... 9-vaccine/
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MarkD wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:42 pm And I will end with this note. My wife did some research months ago re: "asymptomatic". It is being misused by Fauci and the media. Her finding is the term is only applicable to bacterial infections.

Covid-19 is a virus.
And your wife obviously is a qualified medical researcher or you would not have posted this FACT!
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I had dinner with a friend and wife over the holidays, both pharmacists. She works for Pfizer, convinced it is safe. I don't know but believe it's likely a live trial underway. These vaccines (which I also don't think are that necessary) were rushed to market on fiat. My take is wait and see. JnJ looks more promising.
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MarkD wrote: Sat Jan 16, 2021 12:37 am I had dinner with a friend and wife over the holidays, both pharmacists. She works for Pfizer, convinced it is safe. I don't know but believe it's likely a live trial underway. These vaccines (which I also don't think are that necessary) were rushed to market on fiat. My take is wait and see. JnJ looks more promising.
It seems to be killing off the frail folks of Norway:

https://nypost.com/2021/01/15/23-die-in ... 9-vaccine/

If you listen to the interview with Norway's Chief Physician it's interesting how ho hum is his reaction. Well these were the frailest la, la, la....Bet their relatives were glad to hear how casually it is viewed. How about a different approach maybe. Make sure everyone who works there or visits is vaccinated and let the old take their chances. After all, seems the frailest have better odds vs the virus.
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This Covid farce is like a tragic comedy, laughable if it wasn't, well, so tragic. I don't know if any of you have read or follow Karl Denniger (The Market-Ticker.org) but he's been a voice of reason on Covid since it began. Here's his latest outburst:

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=241292

Ivermectin has been approved by the NIH as a treatment for Covid. So who benefitted over the last year by this cheap and reliable drug being deemed unsuitable? Who benefits now?

How many people could have been saved?
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Budge wrote: Sat Jan 16, 2021 12:52 pm This Covid farce is like a tragic comedy, laughable if it wasn't, well, so tragic. I don't know if any of you have read or follow Karl Denniger (The Market-Ticker.org) but he's been a voice of reason on Covid since it began. Here's his latest outburst:

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=241292

Ivermectin has been approved by the NIH as a treatment for Covid. So who benefitted over the last year by this cheap and reliable drug being deemed unsuitable? Who benefits now?

How many people could have been saved?
Here's an article from The Buffalo News about how relatives had to sue the hospital to save an 80 year old's life by the use of Ivermectin:

https://buffalonews.com/news/local/afte ... e-trending

Some of the quotes in here from supposed experts are crap/misleading at best (Russo). Plus, she had a 20% chance of survival on the ventilator? Wrong! Once Covid patients go on a ventilator they are as good as dead. About 5% survival. The 20% figure applies to non-Covid patients on a ventilator.

Now be prepared for China Joe to be hailed as the savior of the world, the universe and everything and for Trump to be called a murderer for stalling the investigation of experimental drugs like this and hydroxychloroquine. Already seen this on one site. After all, Trump knew that by mentioning hydroxychloroquine, he'd arouse universal opposition to those classes of anti-parasitic drugs. Right!
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